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clenz wrote:
D1B wrote:Yeah, that and Hitler was Catholic. You stick with what you know. :coffee:
D, my main issue with most of what you are saying (and Cap too) is that just because Hitler, or anyone for that matter, was raised with a certain religion it means they are completely entrenched in it.
I know, and no one is saying he was entrenched. This does not mean that he didn't believe in jesus christ or use religion as a tool to control and ultimately kill people. Remember, Hitler used the Bible to codify his antisemitism in the Nuremburg Laws. This alone killed millions of people.
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Grizalltheway wrote:
Newsflash: YOU DON'T EITHER. Nobody knows exactly how we got here or where we're going when it's all over. It's human nature to cling to something that helps us make sense of our puzzling existence. Christians have the Bible, Muslins have the Koran, and atheists have science and critical thinking/self-introspection.
All three can help you be a better person when alive on this earth. Only two have the possibility of helping you after you die. No?
Incorrect. Nothing can help you after you die. :coffee:
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Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: All three can help you be a better person when alive on this earth. Only two have the possibility of helping you after you die. No?
Incorrect. Nothing can help you after you die. :coffee:
You have as much scientific data to prove that as those who believe have to support that claim :coffee:
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clenz wrote:
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
Incorrect. Nothing can help you after you die. :coffee:
You have as much scientific data to prove that as those who believe have to support that claim :coffee:
In that case, Santa Clause must be real. Fuck yeah! :roll:
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Fuck, guys, the Catholics even tell you what's up every Ash Wednesday: "Remember thou art dust and unto dust thou shalt return."

Worm food. Like Conks in the next election cycle.

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Cap'n Cat wrote:Fuck, guys, the Catholics even tell you what's up every Ash Wednesday: "Remember thou art dust and unto dust thou shalt return."

Worm food. Like Conks in the next election cycle.

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In the physical sense that is correct....Christians, hell most religions, will never argue the physical body is nothing except worm food when dead.

Just because some have a belief that their inner self/soul/conscious mind/whatever the fuck you want to call it lives on in some form doesn't affect you in anyway.
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clenz wrote:
Cap'n Cat wrote:Fuck, guys, the Catholics even tell you what's up every Ash Wednesday: "Remember thou art dust and unto dust thou shalt return."

Worm food. Like Conks in the next election cycle.

:coffee:
In the physical sense that is correct....Christians, hell most religions, will never argue the physical body is nothing except worm food when dead.

Just because some have a belief that their inner self/soul/conscious mind/whatever the fuck you want to call it lives on in some form doesn't affect you in anyway.
Well, the religion on trial here at cs.com - Catholocism, has pretty strict rules regarding handling the body after death. :nod:
The Catholic Church forbid cremation up until 1963. Catholic belief in the body as the temple of the Holy Spirit — as well as faith in the resurrection of the body — places a strong preference for entombing or burying the body intact. In addition, the Catholic Church took the line from Genesis (3:19) — "dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return" — as a literal instruction for most of its history, forbidding Catholics to be cremated and requiring that they be buried or entombed when they died.

The Church dropped its prohibition of cremation in 1963. It now permits cremation only if that choice is not a reflection of doubt or disbelief about Catholic teachings about death, resurrection, and rebirth to eternal life. (Early Pagan cremations were seen as a denial of Christ's resurrection.)

After cremation was allowed, the Church still required that cremation be carried out only after the actual body was present at the funeral Mass. Ashes were not allowed to substitute for the body at the funeral Mass. This prohibition also sprang from the Church's reverence for the body which carried the oils from Baptism, Confirmation, and possibly the Sacrament of the Sick. The prayers of the funeral Mass confirm this respect for the body.

However, in 1997, the Church recognized the need of loved ones of those who had chosen cremation to have a tangible presence of the deceased during their funeral Mass, and lifted the ban on having ashes present during the service — that cremated remains could be present at a funeral Mass.

Despite that change in policy, however, one edict stands: The remains of one who has died must be treated with reverence. That means scattering cremated remains (the ashes) is forbidden. The cremated remains should be placed in a worthy container and then buried in a (preferably Catholic) cemetery :ohno: or placed in crypt. It also means you can't keep the ashes on display at home on the mantle or put away in a bank vault.
Cremation clearly isn't the Church's preferred means of handling the remains of the faithful, but it is a permitted and recognized choice.
On a side note, think of all the pain and suffering this silly rule caused families over the last 2000 years. As with just about everything the church does, it was all about making money. :nod:
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clenz wrote:
Cap'n Cat wrote:Fuck, guys, the Catholics even tell you what's up every Ash Wednesday: "Remember thou art dust and unto dust thou shalt return."

Worm food. Like Conks in the next election cycle.

:coffee:
In the physical sense that is correct....Christians, hell most religions, will never argue the physical body is nothing except worm food when dead.

Just because some have a belief that their inner self/soul/conscious mind/whatever the fuck you want to call it lives on in some form doesn't affect you in anyway.

Are you serious that people believing if you follow a set of laws - most of em silly or dangersou, under threat of punishment, and you'll be rewarded in an afterlife doesn't affect anyone!!??

Come on Clenz. Pay attention. :rofl:
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Giggling at the concept of "souls".

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Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
clenz wrote: You have as much scientific data to prove that as those who believe have to support that claim :coffee:
In that case, Santa Clause must be real. Fuck yeah! :roll:
That's enough out of YOU, smart guy!!!!!!

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Santa is definitely real. :finger:
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I blew Santa Claus when I was nine.
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Cap'n Cat wrote:I blew Santa Claus when I was nine.
That wasn't Santa, That was your Uncle Jimmy. :?
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Would just like to offer my sincere apologies to anyone I insulted last night.

Lack of sleep + New boss + Booze = DICK!

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SeattleGriz wrote:Would just like to offer my sincere apologies to anyone I insulted last night.

Lack of sleep + New boss + Booze = DICK!

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SeattleGriz wrote:Would just like to offer my sincere apologies to anyone I insulted last night.

Lack of sleep + New boss + Booze = DICK!

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What a pussy. :ohno:

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D1B wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:Would just like to offer my sincere apologies to anyone I insulted last night.

Lack of sleep + New boss + Booze = DICK!

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What a pussy. :ohno:

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