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UNI88 wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 7:21 am
kalm wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 4:45 am

It depends on the motivation of the debate. Sometimes it’s an honest, open minded debate based in reason. Often it’s political, denial, and anger based.

EG: when the majority of experts (healthcare, infectious disease, data scientists, etc) agree that masks are a useable arrow in the quiver. It sounds like you’re sandbagging for people’s ignorance a bit.
You fell for the same baloney, posting about experts agreeing that masks are useable. The debate isn't whether masks are useable or not, it's about how useable they are. How effective are they?

We might be engaging in open-minded debate here but I don't see it from our politicians. Do you have a link to an open-minded debate among leaders at a state or federal level? It's either yes or no to masks indoors with no enough real discussion about how well masks work and what else the vulnerable should be doing to protect themselves.
There’s a shortage of information regarding other preventions? :?

I started masking up again. WA state had over 3500 new cases yesterday. I’m also now eligible for a booster. Neither are a big ask for me. They never were.
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Baldy wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 7:13 am
kalm wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 5:32 am

It’s both...

https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/the-re ... s-growing/
Really? Other than this article from the NYT, there is very little being said about it. If you look at the media, all they seem to talk about are the Conks who are refusing to take the vaccine.

Can you point me to Kaiser's study noting the racial divide in vaccine rates? I haven't been able to find it. :coffee:
I hear it discussed often.

And it was you who proclaimed it ain’t the right wingers who aren’t getting vaccinated.

I didn’t draw the racial divide. You could say I’m postcracial like that. Candace Owens would dig me.
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Gil Dobie wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 6:18 am
Baldy wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 5:09 am As I said, it ain't the right wingers who aren't getting vaxxed. :coffee:

A shockingly honest article from the NYT

Why Only 28 Percent of Young Black New Yorkers Are Vaccinated

Why is race a thing?
Well, you clearly aren't anti-racist. Race is everything. You gotta keep up.
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kalm wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 8:40 am
Baldy wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 7:13 am
Really? Other than this article from the NYT, there is very little being said about it. If you look at the media, all they seem to talk about are the Conks who are refusing to take the vaccine.

Can you point me to Kaiser's study noting the racial divide in vaccine rates? I haven't been able to find it. :coffee:
I hear it discussed often.

And it was you who proclaimed it ain’t the right wingers who aren’t getting vaccinated.

I didn’t draw the racial divide. You could say I’m postcracial like that. Candace Owens would dig me.
I hear it discussed often, too. In here for example. It's just rarely if ever discussed in the media.

Comparatively speaking, it isn't the right wingers, and it isn't even close.

Unfortunately, there is a racial divide. Facts are hard sometimes. I just can't wait for the impending battle between the vax passport woke-scolds and the black/brown anti-vaxxers. The popcorn is ready. :nod:
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GannonFan wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:27 am
Gil Dobie wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 6:18 am

Why is race a thing?
Well, you clearly aren't anti-racist. Race is everything. You gotta keep up.
In a race, it's better to stay ahead.

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kalm wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 8:35 am
UNI88 wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 7:21 am
You fell for the same baloney, posting about experts agreeing that masks are useable. The debate isn't whether masks are useable or not, it's about how useable they are. How effective are they?

We might be engaging in open-minded debate here but I don't see it from our politicians. Do you have a link to an open-minded debate among leaders at a state or federal level? It's either yes or no to masks indoors with no enough real discussion about how well masks work and what else the vulnerable should be doing to protect themselves.
There’s a shortage of information regarding other preventions? :?

I started masking up again. WA state had over 3500 new cases yesterday. I’m also now eligible for a booster. Neither are a big ask for me. They never were.
There is a shortage of information and discussion about effectiveness. I have no problem masking up and will get a booster if needed. I'm not anti-mask or anti-vax but I do think the scolds who are pushing masks as a solution are doing people a disservice by not talking about their relative effectiveness. My guess is that staying 6'+ apart is much more effective than a mask.
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I think this is the best place for this story. This is a bit of a long story but it happened last night and thought I would share.

Last night, MrsCCU, myself and some friends attended a group meeting of Drinking Liberally. My wife and her friend have gone to 1 other event and said it was lowkey but there are 1 or 2 loud members who, " make Bernie look like a Republican." Last night was my first (and last) time attending.

Let's go back a few days - on Tuesday there was a School Board meeting about a group of pro mask people tried to ask why all other safety precautions, not including masks, were removed. They weren't successful and it sounds like it's mainly due to 1 disruptive anti-masker Karen who was coughing on people, yelling at people and screaming at the children present that "their parents are killing them," as well as using time to present her "evidence" that wearing a mask for 5 minute produces dangerous levels of Carbon Monoxide and you'll die. :lol: :roll:

After that shit storm of a meeting, a Republican board member reached out to this group to apologize and said he wants to hear their concerns. They invited the man to last nights meeting.

So at the meeting, he gives his background and explains to the group why their concerns aren't being heard. TL/DR - they're disorganized and don't understand how the School Board and School District work. Having said all that, he said he was for masks.

The karens (mostly 2 women) started badgering him about 2 different questions which he tried to explain several times until he finally told them he won't answer any questions while being attacked and their tones were unacceptable. The two questions:
1. What can we do to get rid of the Superintendent (meanwhile this is the guy that for the past decade has taken our school district from the middle of the pack to the #1 district in SC.)
2. Will he appoint or request a special commission to speak with local experts/leaders and mandate masks be worn in school.

The 2nd question was asked 5x, 5 different ways and each time he said he can't promise that. That didn't go over well..at all. It's at this time that I finally spoke up and mentioned that this guy isn't going to promise something that's extremely difficult to deliver on and that he's already stated that he's having background conversations concerning COVID safety and protocols. This is where I got my first "boo". The 2nd was while asking a question, Karen #2 interrupted me, prompting me to say, " I'm speaking, don't interrupt. Don't be rude." This came with a scoff, an eat shit grin and then her looking at her husband who did nothing.

Next up, my buddy Will. He's a bigger asshole than I am. He asked the very simple question, " You, the board, the district, administrators are getting's 1000s of emails and calls but do you guys understand what this group wants?" The board member said no. That pissed off the group, to which prompted both us to say that there is zero organization, zero understanding of how this works and that's part of the problem. After getting a thank you from the board member, we can sense that "Drinking Liberally" doesn't really want outside thinkers. I even suggested that I would act as a lobbyist/liaison for the group and that was shot down.

In the end, I thanked the guy for stepping up and went home. My wife tells me that the facebook group is bitching about my buddy and I b/c we "mainsplained" something that Karen #2 agreed she didn't understand.


Not that I would go back, but i'm quite certain i'm not welcomed back at that bullshit group which is basically dominated by 2 Karens.
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CAA Flagship wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:34 am
GannonFan wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:27 am

Well, you clearly aren't anti-racist. Race is everything. You gotta keep up.
In a race, it's better to stay ahead.

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With a joke like that, I fear something is afoot.....
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GannonFan wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:27 am
Gil Dobie wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 6:18 am

Why is race a thing?
Well, you clearly aren't anti-racist. Race is everything. You gotta keep up.
Why does it matter which race is more vaccinated or not. It's up to each person if they want to get vaxed, unless their employer requires it.
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Ibanez wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:50 am I think this is the best place for this story. This is a bit of a long story but it happened last night and thought I would share.

Last night, MrsCCU, myself and some friends attended a group meeting of Drinking Liberally. My wife and her friend have gone to 1 other event and said it was lowkey but there are 1 or 2 loud members who, " make Bernie look like a Republican." Last night was my first (and last) time attending.

Let's go back a few days - on Tuesday there was a School Board meeting about a group of pro mask people tried to ask why all other safety precautions, not including masks, were removed. They weren't successful and it sounds like it's mainly due to 1 disruptive anti-masker Karen who was coughing on people, yelling at people and screaming at the children present that "their parents are killing them," as well as using time to present her "evidence" that wearing a mask for 5 minute produces dangerous levels of Carbon Monoxide and you'll die. :lol: :roll:

After that shit storm of a meeting, a Republican board member reached out to this group to apologize and said he wants to hear their concerns. They invited the man to last nights meeting.

So at the meeting, he gives his background and explains to the group why their concerns aren't being heard. TL/DR - they're disorganized and don't understand how the School Board and School District work. Having said all that, he said he was for masks.

The karens (mostly 2 women) started badgering him about 2 different questions which he tried to explain several times until he finally told them he won't answer any questions while being attacked and their tones were unacceptable. The two questions:
1. What can we do to get rid of the Superintendent (meanwhile this is the guy that for the past decade has taken our school district from the middle of the pack to the #1 district in SC.)
2. Will he appoint or request a special commission to speak with local experts/leaders and mandate masks be worn in school.

The 2nd question was asked 5x, 5 different ways and each time he said he can't promise that. That didn't go over well..at all. It's at this time that I finally spoke up and mentioned that this guy isn't going to promise something that's extremely difficult to deliver on and that he's already stated that he's having background conversations concerning COVID safety and protocols. This is where I got my first "boo". The 2nd was while asking a question, Karen #2 interrupted me, prompting me to say, " I'm speaking, don't interrupt. Don't be rude." This came with a scoff, an eat shit grin and then her looking at her husband who did nothing.

Next up, my buddy Will. He's a bigger asshole than I am. He asked the very simple question, " You, the board, the district, administrators are getting's 1000s of emails and calls but do you guys understand what this group wants?" The board member said no. That pissed off the group, to which prompted both us to say that there is zero organization, zero understanding of how this works and that's part of the problem. After getting a thank you from the board member, we can sense that "Drinking Liberally" doesn't really want outside thinkers. I even suggested that I would act as a lobbyist/liaison for the group and that was shot down.

In the end, I thanked the guy for stepping up and went home. My wife tells me that the facebook group is bitching about my buddy and I b/c we "mainsplained" something that Karen #2 agreed she didn't understand.


Not that I would go back, but i'm quite certain i'm not welcomed back at that bullshit group which is basically dominated by 2 Karens.
God bless that man. Good for him going to the group. How they treated him shows how stupid people are. They had a potential ally, on at least some issues, willing to meet with them and they piss him off. Brilliant strategy.

I've always been willing to talk to people but depending on the situation they may not like my answers. I'm polite up to a point but I have my limits. After 14 years my favorite was telling a ranting guy that I didn't care about his concern. :lol:
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Gil Dobie wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:30 am
GannonFan wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:27 am

Well, you clearly aren't anti-racist. Race is everything. You gotta keep up.
Why does it matter which race is more vaccinated or not. It's up to each person if they want to get vaxed, unless their employer requires it.
I believe it's because of the systematic things in place, now and historically, that cause these disparities in racial outcomes. The thinking now is that if there's a disparity, it's due to racism, seen or unseen.
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GannonFan wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:54 am
Gil Dobie wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:30 am
Why does it matter which race is more vaccinated or not. It's up to each person if they want to get vaxed, unless their employer requires it.
I believe it's because of the systematic things in place, now and historically, that cause these disparities in racial outcomes. The thinking now is that if there's a disparity, it's due to racism, seen or unseen.
If black poverty is due to racism why is there white poverty? Is it because whites are inferior?
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UNI88 wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:39 am

What a clown.
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HI54UNI wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:39 am
Ibanez wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:50 am I think this is the best place for this story. This is a bit of a long story but it happened last night and thought I would share.

Last night, MrsCCU, myself and some friends attended a group meeting of Drinking Liberally. My wife and her friend have gone to 1 other event and said it was lowkey but there are 1 or 2 loud members who, " make Bernie look like a Republican." Last night was my first (and last) time attending.

Let's go back a few days - on Tuesday there was a School Board meeting about a group of pro mask people tried to ask why all other safety precautions, not including masks, were removed. They weren't successful and it sounds like it's mainly due to 1 disruptive anti-masker Karen who was coughing on people, yelling at people and screaming at the children present that "their parents are killing them," as well as using time to present her "evidence" that wearing a mask for 5 minute produces dangerous levels of Carbon Monoxide and you'll die. :lol: :roll:

After that shit storm of a meeting, a Republican board member reached out to this group to apologize and said he wants to hear their concerns. They invited the man to last nights meeting.

So at the meeting, he gives his background and explains to the group why their concerns aren't being heard. TL/DR - they're disorganized and don't understand how the School Board and School District work. Having said all that, he said he was for masks.

The karens (mostly 2 women) started badgering him about 2 different questions which he tried to explain several times until he finally told them he won't answer any questions while being attacked and their tones were unacceptable. The two questions:
1. What can we do to get rid of the Superintendent (meanwhile this is the guy that for the past decade has taken our school district from the middle of the pack to the #1 district in SC.)
2. Will he appoint or request a special commission to speak with local experts/leaders and mandate masks be worn in school.

The 2nd question was asked 5x, 5 different ways and each time he said he can't promise that. That didn't go over well..at all. It's at this time that I finally spoke up and mentioned that this guy isn't going to promise something that's extremely difficult to deliver on and that he's already stated that he's having background conversations concerning COVID safety and protocols. This is where I got my first "boo". The 2nd was while asking a question, Karen #2 interrupted me, prompting me to say, " I'm speaking, don't interrupt. Don't be rude." This came with a scoff, an eat shit grin and then her looking at her husband who did nothing.

Next up, my buddy Will. He's a bigger asshole than I am. He asked the very simple question, " You, the board, the district, administrators are getting's 1000s of emails and calls but do you guys understand what this group wants?" The board member said no. That pissed off the group, to which prompted both us to say that there is zero organization, zero understanding of how this works and that's part of the problem. After getting a thank you from the board member, we can sense that "Drinking Liberally" doesn't really want outside thinkers. I even suggested that I would act as a lobbyist/liaison for the group and that was shot down.

In the end, I thanked the guy for stepping up and went home. My wife tells me that the facebook group is bitching about my buddy and I b/c we "mainsplained" something that Karen #2 agreed she didn't understand.


Not that I would go back, but i'm quite certain i'm not welcomed back at that bullshit group which is basically dominated by 2 Karens.
God bless that man. Good for him going to the group. How they treated him shows how stupid people are. They had a potential ally, on at least some issues, willing to meet with them and they piss him off. Brilliant strategy.

I've always been willing to talk to people but depending on the situation they may not like my answers. I'm polite up to a point but I have my limits. After 14 years my favorite was telling a ranting guy that I didn't care about his concern. :lol:
I emailed him this morning and thanked him for stepping up. He was very candid with the group. My wife wanted me to apologize for that group but I refused - it's not my desire nor my place. He was honest, he candid, he listened, he asked questions which were never answered and he pretty much kept his cool for 99.99% of the time.
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Ibanez wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:50 am I think this is the best place for this story. This is a bit of a long story but it happened last night and thought I would share.

Last night, MrsCCU, myself and some friends attended a group meeting of Drinking Liberally. My wife and her friend have gone to 1 other event and said it was lowkey but there are 1 or 2 loud members who, " make Bernie look like a Republican." Last night was my first (and last) time attending.

Let's go back a few days - on Tuesday there was a School Board meeting about a group of pro mask people tried to ask why all other safety precautions, not including masks, were removed. They weren't successful and it sounds like it's mainly due to 1 disruptive anti-masker Karen who was coughing on people, yelling at people and screaming at the children present that "their parents are killing them," as well as using time to present her "evidence" that wearing a mask for 5 minute produces dangerous levels of Carbon Monoxide and you'll die. :lol: :roll:

After that shit storm of a meeting, a Republican board member reached out to this group to apologize and said he wants to hear their concerns. They invited the man to last nights meeting.

So at the meeting, he gives his background and explains to the group why their concerns aren't being heard. TL/DR - they're disorganized and don't understand how the School Board and School District work. Having said all that, he said he was for masks.

The karens (mostly 2 women) started badgering him about 2 different questions which he tried to explain several times until he finally told them he won't answer any questions while being attacked and their tones were unacceptable. The two questions:
1. What can we do to get rid of the Superintendent (meanwhile this is the guy that for the past decade has taken our school district from the middle of the pack to the #1 district in SC.)
2. Will he appoint or request a special commission to speak with local experts/leaders and mandate masks be worn in school.

The 2nd question was asked 5x, 5 different ways and each time he said he can't promise that. That didn't go over well..at all. It's at this time that I finally spoke up and mentioned that this guy isn't going to promise something that's extremely difficult to deliver on and that he's already stated that he's having background conversations concerning COVID safety and protocols. This is where I got my first "boo". The 2nd was while asking a question, Karen #2 interrupted me, prompting me to say, " I'm speaking, don't interrupt. Don't be rude." This came with a scoff, an eat shit grin and then her looking at her husband who did nothing.

Next up, my buddy Will. He's a bigger asshole than I am. He asked the very simple question, " You, the board, the district, administrators are getting's 1000s of emails and calls but do you guys understand what this group wants?" The board member said no. That pissed off the group, to which prompted both us to say that there is zero organization, zero understanding of how this works and that's part of the problem. After getting a thank you from the board member, we can sense that "Drinking Liberally" doesn't really want outside thinkers. I even suggested that I would act as a lobbyist/liaison for the group and that was shot down.

In the end, I thanked the guy for stepping up and went home. My wife tells me that the facebook group is bitching about my buddy and I b/c we "mainsplained" something that Karen #2 agreed she didn't understand.


Not that I would go back, but i'm quite certain i'm not welcomed back at that bullshit group which is basically dominated by 2 Karens.
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GannonFan wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:54 am
Gil Dobie wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:30 am

Why does it matter which race is more vaccinated or not. It's up to each person if they want to get vaxed, unless their employer requires it.
I believe it's because of the systematic things in place, now and historically, that cause these disparities in racial outcomes. The thinking now is that if there's a disparity, it's due to racism, seen or unseen.
...or people not wanting the vax.
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SDHornet wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 12:00 pm
Ibanez wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:50 am I think this is the best place for this story. This is a bit of a long story but it happened last night and thought I would share.

Last night, MrsCCU, myself and some friends attended a group meeting of Drinking Liberally. My wife and her friend have gone to 1 other event and said it was lowkey but there are 1 or 2 loud members who, " make Bernie look like a Republican." Last night was my first (and last) time attending.

Let's go back a few days - on Tuesday there was a School Board meeting about a group of pro mask people tried to ask why all other safety precautions, not including masks, were removed. They weren't successful and it sounds like it's mainly due to 1 disruptive anti-masker Karen who was coughing on people, yelling at people and screaming at the children present that "their parents are killing them," as well as using time to present her "evidence" that wearing a mask for 5 minute produces dangerous levels of Carbon Monoxide and you'll die. :lol: :roll:

After that shit storm of a meeting, a Republican board member reached out to this group to apologize and said he wants to hear their concerns. They invited the man to last nights meeting.

So at the meeting, he gives his background and explains to the group why their concerns aren't being heard. TL/DR - they're disorganized and don't understand how the School Board and School District work. Having said all that, he said he was for masks.

The karens (mostly 2 women) started badgering him about 2 different questions which he tried to explain several times until he finally told them he won't answer any questions while being attacked and their tones were unacceptable. The two questions:
1. What can we do to get rid of the Superintendent (meanwhile this is the guy that for the past decade has taken our school district from the middle of the pack to the #1 district in SC.)
2. Will he appoint or request a special commission to speak with local experts/leaders and mandate masks be worn in school.

The 2nd question was asked 5x, 5 different ways and each time he said he can't promise that. That didn't go over well..at all. It's at this time that I finally spoke up and mentioned that this guy isn't going to promise something that's extremely difficult to deliver on and that he's already stated that he's having background conversations concerning COVID safety and protocols. This is where I got my first "boo". The 2nd was while asking a question, Karen #2 interrupted me, prompting me to say, " I'm speaking, don't interrupt. Don't be rude." This came with a scoff, an eat shit grin and then her looking at her husband who did nothing.

Next up, my buddy Will. He's a bigger asshole than I am. He asked the very simple question, " You, the board, the district, administrators are getting's 1000s of emails and calls but do you guys understand what this group wants?" The board member said no. That pissed off the group, to which prompted both us to say that there is zero organization, zero understanding of how this works and that's part of the problem. After getting a thank you from the board member, we can sense that "Drinking Liberally" doesn't really want outside thinkers. I even suggested that I would act as a lobbyist/liaison for the group and that was shot down.

In the end, I thanked the guy for stepping up and went home. My wife tells me that the facebook group is bitching about my buddy and I b/c we "mainsplained" something that Karen #2 agreed she didn't understand.


Not that I would go back, but i'm quite certain i'm not welcomed back at that bullshit group which is basically dominated by 2 Karens.
Boo!
Oh...another thing that has no importance really but I thought I'd mentioned it - the board member is a unicorn - the rare Black Republican. :lol: :thumb:
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Ibanez wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:50 am My wife tells me that the facebook group is bitching about my buddy and I b/c we "mainsplained" something that Karen #2 agreed she didn't understand.
If women weren't so stupid, we wouldn't have to mansplain anything. :coffee: :twisted:
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kalm wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:12 am
UNI88 wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:39 am What a clown.
Death cult.
I didn't bother to watch the clip, but I would agree that any hospital that is empty or has plenty of room is only because it's closed for poor management. Every time I've been to the ER over the years, it's full. As it should be. Empty business = going broke.

Am I wrong?
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Looks like Buncombe County will require masking indoors again sometime next week. I think the vote will be Tuesday, but it seems like a formality at this point. It's frustrating, but I know a couple of RN's who are pretty convincing of the need for it based on recent work experience. I trust RN's more than government officials. Shit.
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89Hen wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 1:07 pm
kalm wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:12 am

Death cult.
I didn't bother to watch the clip, but I would agree that any hospital that is empty or has plenty of room is only because it's closed for poor management. Every time I've been to the ER over the years, it's full. As it should be. Empty business = going broke.

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Good point. Especially if you’re trying to turn a profit.
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AshevilleApp wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:53 pm Looks like Buncombe County will require masking indoors again sometime next week. I think the vote will be Tuesday, but it seems like a formality at this point. It's frustrating, but I know a couple of RN's who are pretty convincing of the need for it based on recent work experience. I trust RN's more than government officials. Shit.
Please don't. :lol:
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160 cases across Washington now linked to the Watershed Festival at the gorge. Good times.

https://www.khq.com/coronavirus/watersh ... MjC0Qjqyxw
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