No doubt, America needs universal health care

[AZGrizFan]

sounds like a man who doesn't have a health care plan.

let me buy your rich ass a beer.

Seriously....

First intelligent thing you've said in weeks.

[grizzaholic]

sounds like a man who doesn't have a health care plan.

Go fuck yourself rich dude red neck. Damn right I don't have a health plan, not like the one YOU get. I don't want to hear anymore shit out of your wing nut face about this, or about how those gazillionare wall street bankers deserve multi-million dollar bonuses, or how the terrorists will swim over here, and how they moved the bottle rocket launchers to Syria, or how Bush protected us, or how healthy McCain is, or how right and hot Palin is, or any of that endless bunch of ignorant shit that you believe. You been outed, we've all heard it, so shut the fuck up and let me buy your rich ass a beer.
Seriously....

You had me until that part. Not sure if you would want to be seen buying a BL anyways.

[D1B]

More food for thought.

Adam Smith, qualify those graphs with source data. Not the source Bittterman, the data, as in what specifically constitutes "defense outlays", etc.

[dbackjon]

More food for thought.

Note, this does NOT take into account the IRAQISTAN and AFGANISTAN wars.


Misleading, and WRONG chart, Socialist Union boy.

[AZGrizFan]

More food for thought.

Adam Smith, qualify those graphs with source data. Not the source Bittterman, the data, as in what specifically constitutes "defense outlays", etc.

Coming from the king of unsourced claims, I laugh in your general direction.


I sourced it in the first graph. He explains it all there.

[AZGrizFan]

More food for thought.

Note, this does NOT take into account the IRAQISTAN and AFGANISTAN wars.


Misleading, and WRONG chart, Socialist Union boy.

Again Jon, the cost of those wars is ALSO a largely misleading statistic. Go ahead and quote it if you must. You're real good at latching onto misleading statistics.

[Wedgebuster]

Go fuck yourself rich dude red neck. Damn right I don't have a health plan, not like the one YOU get. I don't want to hear anymore shit out of your wing nut face about this, or about how those gazillionare wall street bankers deserve multi-million dollar bonuses, or how the terrorists will swim over here, and how they moved the bottle rocket launchers to Syria, or how Bush protected us, or how healthy McCain is, or how right and hot Palin is, or any of that endless bunch of ignorant shit that you believe. You been outed, we've all heard it, so shut the fuck up and let me buy your rich ass a beer.
Seriously....

You had me until that part. Not sure if you would want to be seen buying a BL anyways.

Buy 'em all the time to cook brats and shrimp in.

[AZGrizFan]

Go fuck yourself rich dude red neck. Damn right I don't have a health plan, not like the one YOU get. I don't want to hear anymore shit out of your wing nut face about this, or about how those gazillionare wall street bankers deserve multi-million dollar bonuses, or how the terrorists will swim over here, and how they moved the bottle rocket launchers to Syria, or how Bush protected us, or how healthy McCain is, or how right and hot Palin is, or any of that endless bunch of ignorant shit that you believe. You been outed, we've all heard it, so shut the fuck up and let me buy your rich ass a beer.
Seriously....

You had me until that part. Not sure if you would want to be seen buying a BL anyways.

My favorite brand of beer, Grizza: FREE.

[D1B]

More food for thought.

Note, this does NOT take into account the IRAQISTAN and AFGANISTAN wars.


Misleading, and WRONG chart, Socialist Union boy.

Z's a fucking liar.

If I'm not mistaken, it also does not include the costs of our nuclear arsenal, weapons systems R&D and astronomically expensive shit like fucking the Star Wars bullshit.

[dbackjon]

Note, this does NOT take into account the IRAQISTAN and AFGANISTAN wars.


Misleading, and WRONG chart, Socialist Union boy.

Again Jon, the cost of those wars is ALSO a largely misleading statistic. Go ahead and quote it if you must. You're real good at latching onto misleading statistics.

Look, dumbazz. The chart is from 2000. The growth is PROJECTED, and DOES NOT take into account the two wars.

And how is the Hundreds of Billions SPENT misleading?

[Wedgebuster]

Another single dimension oratory from wing nut man showing the graphs and insinuating that he paid for it all, and it was all wasted on lazy drugged out spooks and spics.

Predictable, and tired.

[AZGrizFan]

Again Jon, the cost of those wars is ALSO a largely misleading statistic. Go ahead and quote it if you must. You're real good at latching onto misleading statistics.

Look, dumbazz. The chart is from 2000. The growth is PROJECTED, and DOES NOT take into account the two wars.

And how is the Hundreds of Billions SPENT misleading?

And you call ME a dumbazz? The chart is from 1980....the PROJECTIONS continue on after 2000.

The cost of the "war" is only incrementally higher than the cost of maintaining the SAME military in a peace-time environment.

It's a strawman argument anyway. When the war ends, the incremental cost is eliminated. When a porkbarrel ENTITLEMENT program is implemented, we own it for our entire lives, our kids lives, their kids lives, etc., etc., etc.

[D1B]

Look, dumbazz. The chart is from 2000. The growth is PROJECTED, and DOES NOT take into account the two wars.

And how is the Hundreds of Billions SPENT misleading?

And you call ME a dumbazz? The chart is from 1980....the PROJECTIONS continue on after 2000.

The cost of the "war" is only incrementally higher than the cost of maintaining the SAME military in a peace-time environment.

It's a strawman argument anyway. When the war ends, the incremental cost is eliminated. When a porkbarrel ENTITLEMENT program is implemented, we own it for our entire lives, our kids lives, their kids lives, etc., etc., etc.

Give up Z. This was not good choice for you today. Save face and exit immediately.

[AZGrizFan]

Another single dimension oratory from wing nut man showing the graphs and insinuating that he paid for it all, and it was all wasted on lazy drugged out spooks and spics.

Predictable, and tired.

We get it, wedgie. You want another government handout. I don't.

[AZGrizFan]

And you call ME a dumbazz? The chart is from 1980....the PROJECTIONS continue on after 2000.

The cost of the "war" is only incrementally higher than the cost of maintaining the SAME military in a peace-time environment.

It's a strawman argument anyway. When the war ends, the incremental cost is eliminated. When a porkbarrel ENTITLEMENT program is implemented, we own it for our entire lives, our kids lives, their kids lives, etc., etc., etc.

Give up Z. This was not good choice for you today. Save face and exit immediately.

[Wedgebuster]

Another single dimension oratory from wing nut man showing the graphs and insinuating that he paid for it all, and it was all wasted on lazy drugged out spooks and spics.

Predictable, and tired.

We get it, wedgie. You want another government handout. I don't.

Never had a government handout...

Now didn't our government pay you to dress up in a gay white suit and peel spuds for several years??

[AZGrizFan]

We get it, wedgie. You want another government handout. I don't.

Never had a government handout...

Now didn't our government pay you to dress up in a gay white suit and peel spuds for several years??

Now I am done with you. You have gone and offended Tom Cruise.

[D1B]

We get it, wedgie. You want another government handout. I don't.

Never had a government handout...

Now didn't our government pay you to dress up in a gay white suit and peel spuds for several years??

Yep and they paid for his college education too.

[AZGrizFan]

Never had a government handout...

Now didn't our government pay you to dress up in a gay white suit and peel spuds for several years??

Yep and they paid for his college education too.

Wrong again, buffalo breath.

[D1B]

Yep and they paid for his college education too.

Wrong again, buffalo breath.

Sure bout that?

[dbackjon]

Never had a government handout...

Now didn't our government pay you to dress up in a gay white suit and peel spuds for several years??

Yep and they paid for his college education too.

Well, not sure you can call anything from the University of Sarah Palin an education...

[AZGrizFan]

Yep and they paid for his college education too.

Well, not sure you can call anything from the University of Sarah Palin an education...

....says the Lumberjoke grad.

[D1B]

Yep and they paid for his college education too.

Wrong again, buffalo breath.

No government help at all, huh.

What, Z, you paid for college CEO'in credit unions at night and on weekends?

[AZGrizFan]

Wrong again, buffalo breath.

No government help at all, huh.

What, Z, you paid for college CEO'in credit unions at night and on weekends?

I paid for my own college education. My credit union employer paid for my MBA.

[D1B]

No government help at all, huh.

What, Z, you paid for college CEO'in credit unions at night and on weekends?

I paid for my own college education. My credit union employer paid for my MBA.

You didn't get a loan or anything for your undergrad?

So the members of your credit union essentially paid for your MBA. That's nice. I'm sure they really got their money's worth, especially when you left.