Illegals' Exodus from AZ has begun!!!

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Re: Illegals' Exodus from AZ has begun!!!

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native wrote:From the previously cited LA Times article:

... Illegal immigrants aren't entitled to welfare, called CalWORKs. But their citizen children are. Roughly 190,000 kids are receiving welfare checks that pass through their parents. The cost: about $500 million, according to the nonpartisan Legislative Analyst's Office.

Schwarzenegger has proposed removing these children from the welfare rolls after five years. It's part of a broader proposal to also boot off, after five years, the children of U.S. citizens who aren't meeting federal work requirements. There'd be a combined savings of $522 million.

The state is spending $775 million on Medi-Cal healthcare for illegal immigrants, according to the legislative analyst. Of that, $642 million goes into direct benefits. Practically all the rest is paid to counties to administer the program. The feds generally match the state dollar-for-dollar on mandatory programs.

So-called emergency services are the biggest state cost: $536 million. Prenatal care is $59 million. Not counted in the overall total is the cost of baby delivery -- $108 million -- because the newborns aren't illegal immigrants. ...
So schools and emergency health care like I figured. It sucks... but, it's necessary.

Schools can't investigate the legality of every child. The legality of the children is incredibly difficult to determine by the courts... much less a school. How do you suggest they do this?

And, for emergency health care... does a person need to prove their legality to receive treatment for emergency conditions? :? Brown people should fill out extra paperwork and bring 3 forms of id with them after a heart attack or something. :| Don't like it.

It sucks... but, I don't see a viable alternative.
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Skjellyfetti wrote: "...Liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in essence, is fascism.
- President Franklin Delano Roosevelt..."
What a grossly self-serving fallacy.
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native wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote: ...Not one point on your list addresses what to do with the ~20 million illegal aliens already here which is what my question asked. :coffee:
Virtually the same answer as the Colonel's, with more detail, you ignoramus.

The only difference is that I left out the Colonel's point about increasing legal immigration, with which I agree. I would add that we need to improve the process.
The thing is, we already have about a million a yr immigrating legally. Its not like we're a mostly unsettled country of 50-100 million anymore. I think drastically reducing the illegal immigration with keeping the 1 million a yr legally is about right.

"....As of 2006, the United States accepts more legal immigrants as permanent residents than all other countries in the world combined.

....If current birth rate and immigration rates were to remain unchanged for another 70 to 80 years, the U.S. population would double to nearly 600 million.[56] The Census Bureau's estimates actually go as high as predicting that there will be one billion Americans in 2100,..."
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