Donald Trump gaffe and verbal bungles watch

[UNI88]

bone spurs and Whiskeyleaks could learn a thing or two from a real man like this.

[UNI88]

If sedition is a "major crime" why did trump pardon Stewart Rhodes, Kelly Meggs, Roberto Minuta, Edward Vallejo, David Moerschel, Joseph Hackett, Enrique Tarrio, Ethan Nordean, Joseph Biggs, and Zachary Rehl? They were actually convicted of seditious conspiracy. When will their hanging be scheduled?

[BDKJMU]

bone spurs and Whiskeyleaks could learn a thing or two from a real man like this.

And none of that excuses seditious behavior.

[BDKJMU]

If sedition is a "major crime" why did trump pardon Stewart Rhodes, Kelly Meggs, Roberto Minuta, Edward Vallejo, David Moerschel, Joseph Hackett, Enrique Tarrio, Ethan Nordean, Joseph Biggs, and Zachary Rehl? They were actually convicted of seditious conspiracy. When will their hanging be scheduled?

lol Trump is only following the left’s mantra of the last 5 years that’s it’s a major crime. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

[UNI88]

bone spurs and Whiskeyleaks could learn a thing or two from a real man like this.

And none of that excuses seditious behavior.

You’re right. Should we hang the seditious conspirators from January 6 one at a time or all at once? Do we hang trump last since his words incited them?

What Kelly said wasn’t seditious, it just triggered a a sensitive snowflake with a fragile ego, so he’s good.


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[BDKJMU]

And none of that excuses seditious behavior.

You’re right. Should we hang the seditious conspirators from January 6 one at a time or all at once? Do we hang trump last since his words incited them?

What Kelly said wasn’t seditious, it just triggered a a sensitive snowflake with a fragile ego, so he’s good.


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Lol saying to disobey orders sounds pretty seditious..

[UNI88]

You’re right. Should we hang the seditious conspirators from January 6 one at a time or all at once? Do we hang trump last since his words incited them?

What Kelly said wasn’t seditious, it just triggered a a sensitive snowflake with a fragile ego, so he’s good.


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Lol saying to disobey orders sounds pretty seditious..

As I posted in the other thread - The lawmakers didn't tell members of the military to disobey a specific unlawful order they told them that "our laws are clear: You can refuse illegal orders” and “no one has to carry out orders that violate the law or our Constitution”.

I’ll ask the questions you seem to be ducking again:

Are they wrong? Can members of the military not refuse unlawful orders and/or orders that violate the Constitution?

What specifically did the lawmakers say that is seditious?


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[BDKJMU]

Lol saying to disobey orders sounds pretty seditious..

As I posted in the other thread - The lawmakers didn't tell members of the military to disobey a specific unlawful order they told them that "our laws are clear: You can refuse illegal orders” and “no one has to carry out orders that violate the law or our Constitution”.

I’ll again ask the questions you seem to be ducking again:

Are they wrong? Can members of the military not refuse unlawful orders and/or orders that violate the Constitution?

What specifically did the lawmakers say that is seditious?


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Which has always been the case with me the military, so there is zero reason for the video.

I’ll ask again the question you are ducking again. What illegal order has been issued? Slutkin was asked in an ABC interview, and she couldn’t name one. Stumbled all over trying to answer.

[UNI88]

As I posted in the other thread - The lawmakers didn't tell members of the military to disobey a specific unlawful order they told them that "our laws are clear: You can refuse illegal orders” and “no one has to carry out orders that violate the law or our Constitution”.

I’ll again ask the questions you seem to be ducking again:

Are they wrong? Can members of the military not refuse unlawful orders and/or orders that violate the Constitution?

What specifically did the lawmakers say that is seditious?


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Which has always been the case with me the military, so there is zero reason for the video.

I’ll ask again the question you are ducking again. What illegal order has been issued?

Asked and answered - The lawmakers didn't tell members of the military to disobey a specific unlawful order they told them that "our laws are clear: You can refuse illegal orders” and “no one has to carry out orders that violate the law or our Constitution”.

I’ll ask for the third time the questions that you’re avoiding answering:

Are they wrong?

Can members of the military not refuse unlawful orders and/or orders that violate the Constitution?

What specifically did the lawmakers say that is seditious?


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[BDKJMU]

[UNI88]

Definitely belongs in the donald trump gaffes thread.


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[UNI88]

It appears that BDK is going to duck my questions and continue to parrot the trump/MAQA yahoo FAKE NEWS talking points in order to further the sedition HOAX.

What the lawmakers said was not wrong and it was not seditious.

Experts Say Democratic Video Not ‘Seditious,’ as Trump Claims

“Sedition is trying to overthrow the government with force or violence,” Eric R. Carpenter, a professor of law at Florida International University College of Law, said in an email to us. “In the video, the elected officials are just telling service members to follow the law. They are not telling service members to overthrow the government.”
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In an ABC News interview on Nov. 23, Slotkin said she was “not aware of things that are illegal” that Trump has ordered the military to do. But she said “certainly there are some legal gymnastics that are going on with these Caribbean strikes.” She also said she has concerns about “the use of U.S. military on American shores,” and she noted that “we’ve seen now the courts overturn” Trump’s “deployment of U.S. military into our streets,” including in Washington, D.C., and Los Angeles.

The video “was basically a warning to say, like, if you’re asked to do something, particularly against American citizens, you have the ability to go to your JAG officer and push back,” she said, referring to military lawyers known as judge advocates general.
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Carpenter told us there is a “strong presumption” that military orders are lawful and must be followed by members of the military. “They refuse orders at their own risk,” he cautioned.

He said that service members have a legal defense for any actions taken while they are following legal orders, but that defense doesn’t apply if they are following unlawful orders. “So, the basic rule is, follow orders unless they are obviously unlawful.”

As for Trump’s sedition claim, generally, federal law says that “seditious conspiracy” occurs when multiple people conspire to “overthrow,” “put down,” “destroy by force,” “levy war against” or “oppose by force” the U.S. government.
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But legal experts in addition to Carpenter told us that the message in the Democrats’ video does not amount to sedition.

“Trump’s efforts to cast this legal speech as seditious is nonsense,” Victor M. Hansen, a professor of law at New England Law in Boston, said in an email.

“These statements are not seditious or any evidence of a conspiracy,” the former Army JAG officer said. “Simply reminding service members of their legal rights and obligations is not criminal in any way.”

“It is so far from seditious behavior,” Berit Berger, a former federal prosecutor, said in a Nov. 20 CNN interview, noting that sedition “is a specific crime” that “requires advocating” or “planning to overthrow the government through force.”

For example, several people who plotted and participated in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol to prevent the transfer of presidential power were convicted of seditious conspiracy.

Berger said sedition is rarely prosecuted and “it’s very hard to charge somebody with sedition based just on something they say” since “people have a right to criticize their government, to say things, even inflammatory things, that the government might not like.”

[BDKJMU]

Which has always been the case with me the military, so there is zero reason for the video.

I’ll ask again the question you are ducking again. What illegal order has been issued?

Asked and answered - The lawmakers didn't tell members of the military to disobey a specific unlawful order they told them that "our laws are clear: You can refuse illegal orders” and “no one has to carry out orders that violate the law or our Constitution”.

I’ll ask for the third time the questions that you’re avoiding answering:

Are they wrong?

Can members of the military not refuse unlawful orders and/or orders that violate the Constitution?

What specifically did the lawmakers say that is seditious?


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No they are not wrong. And there is ZERO reason for them to bring that up.

If your boss orders you to shoot your coworker you know you don’t have to do that, right? Just in case you might not know.

The Seditious 6, 2 of whom weren’t ever even in the military, were insinuating to service members that their chain of command was giving out illegal orders, which is a lie, and was insinuating that service members could ignore those orders those non illegal orders, which would be a violation of the UCMJ.

The Seditious 6 tried to do this as a clever attempt to undermine the authority of the sitting Commander In Chief. Sounds pretty seditious to me.

If conk politicians had done this when Clinton or Obama or Biden were in office, the left would have lost their collective shit.

[UNI88]

Asked and answered - The lawmakers didn't tell members of the military to disobey a specific unlawful order they told them that "our laws are clear: You can refuse illegal orders” and “no one has to carry out orders that violate the law or our Constitution”.

I’ll ask for the third time the questions that you’re avoiding answering:

Are they wrong?

Can members of the military not refuse unlawful orders and/or orders that violate the Constitution?

What specifically did the lawmakers say that is seditious?


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No they are not wrong. And there is ZERO reason for them to bring that up.

If your boss orders you to shoot your coworker you know you don’t have to do that, right? Just in case you might not know.

The Seditious 6, 2 of whom weren’t ever even in the military, were insinuating to service members that their chain of command was giving out illegal orders, which is a lie, and was insinuating that service members could ignore those orders those non illegal orders, which would be a violation of the UCMJ.

The Seditious 6 tried to do this as a clever attempt to undermine the authority of the sitting Commander In Chief. Sounds pretty seditious to me.

If conk politicians had done this when Clinton or Obama or Biden were in office, the left would have lost their collective shit.

Like you, trump and other MAQA yahoos are losing your shit?

2 not in the military but part of the IC unlike old bone spurs hiding behind daddy’s skirt and whiskeyleaks who doesn’t understand operational security. Bacon was right, those 2 are amateurs. The smart play was to say no problem, we haven’t given any illegal orders and let this blow over but bonespurs fragile ego was damaged and he had to respond.

What they said wasn’t seditious and even if it were it was a fraction of a percent seditious compared to what trump, rhodes, tarrio, etc. did.

Add in trump trying to have them assassinated and his and carolying leavitt’s lame excuses denying it.

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[kalm]

Asked and answered - The lawmakers didn't tell members of the military to disobey a specific unlawful order they told them that "our laws are clear: You can refuse illegal orders” and “no one has to carry out orders that violate the law or our Constitution”.

I’ll ask for the third time the questions that you’re avoiding answering:

Are they wrong?

Can members of the military not refuse unlawful orders and/or orders that violate the Constitution?

What specifically did the lawmakers say that is seditious?


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No they are not wrong. And there is ZERO reason for them to bring that up.

If your boss orders you to shoot your coworker you know you don’t have to do that, right? Just in case you might not know.

The Seditious 6, 2 of whom weren’t ever even in the military, were insinuating to service members that their chain of command was giving out illegal orders, which is a lie, and was insinuating that service members could ignore those orders those non illegal orders, which would be a violation of the UCMJ.

The Seditious 6 tried to do this as a clever attempt to undermine the authority of the sitting Commander In Chief. Sounds pretty seditious to me.

If conk politicians had done this when Clinton or Obama or Biden were in office, the left would have lost their collective shit.

Seditious 6!!!

[BDKJMU]

No they are not wrong. And there is ZERO reason for them to bring that up.

If your boss orders you to shoot your coworker you know you don’t have to do that, right? Just in case you might not know.

The Seditious 6, 2 of whom weren’t ever even in the military, were insinuating to service members that their chain of command was giving out illegal orders, which is a lie, and was insinuating that service members could ignore those orders those non illegal orders, which would be a violation of the UCMJ.

The Seditious 6 tried to do this as a clever attempt to undermine the authority of the sitting Commander In Chief. Sounds pretty seditious to me.

If conk politicians had done this when Clinton or Obama or Biden were in office, the left would have lost their collective shit.

Like you, trump and other MAQA yahoos are losing your shit?

2 not in the military but part of the IC unlike old bone spurs hiding behind daddy’s skirt and whiskeyleaks who doesn’t understand operational security. Bacon was right, those 2 are amateurs. The smart play was to say no problem, we haven’t given any illegal orders and let this blow over but bonespurs fragile ego was damaged and he had to respond.

What they said wasn’t seditious and even if it were it was a fraction of a percent seditious compared to what trump, rhodes, tarrio, etc. did.

Add in trump trying to have them assassinated and his and carolying leavitt’s lame excuses denying it.

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Lol what they said was 100% unnecessary. It was the equivalent of someone telling you if your boss says to you to shoot your coworker, you know you don’t have to do that, right? Just in case you might not know.

They were stating water is wet to members of the military, but doing it in a way that was an underhanded attempt to subvert the the authority of the POTUS. Of course it’s not prosecutable. Those who are saying it is are just bloviating. They could have flat out said ‘Don’t follow orders that emanate from Trump period, because he is a blankety blank‘, and that wouldn‘t be prosecutable for non members of the military either. But it’s still unbecoming of members of Congress to subvert the Commamder in Chief. It you don‘t want to be called seditious, don‘t do seditious things.

[UNI88]

Like you, trump and other MAQA yahoos are losing your shit?

2 not in the military but part of the IC unlike old bone spurs hiding behind daddy’s skirt and whiskeyleaks who doesn’t understand operational security. Bacon was right, those 2 are amateurs. The smart play was to say no problem, we haven’t given any illegal orders and let this blow over but bonespurs fragile ego was damaged and he had to respond.

What they said wasn’t seditious and even if it were it was a fraction of a percent seditious compared to what trump, rhodes, tarrio, etc. did.

Add in trump trying to have them assassinated and his and carolying leavitt’s lame excuses denying it.

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Lol what they said was 100% unnecessary. It was the equivalent of someone telling you if your boss says to you to shoot your coworker, you know you don’t have to do that, right? Just in case you might not know.

They were stating water is wet to members of the military, but doing it in a way that was an underhanded attempt to subvert the the authority of the POTUS. Of course it’s not prosecutable. Those who are saying it is are just bloviating. They could have flat out said ‘Don’t follow orders that emanate from Trump period, because he is a blankety blank‘, and that wouldn‘t be prosecutable for non members of the military either. But it’s still unbecoming of members of Congress to subvert the Commamder in Chief. It you don‘t want to be called seditious, don‘t do seditious things.

Based on what is happening in the Caribbean and with the military in the US isn't unnecessary and court rulings back that up. Members of the military swear an oath to the Constitution not to the President.

If bloviating doesn't matter why do you hang on trump's every word?

Stating what is clearly stated in the UCMJ is not seditious.

[Caribbean Hen]

Too simple

Nobody even blinked on the left when Obama was blowing up people in Pakistan and all over the world when he was president… because they were designated as terrorist. I supported Obama on this.

And back then, nobody on the right tried to plant seeds into the minds of military members basically saying you better be careful here, blowing up terrorist on the orders of the President might be illegal…. You could get in trouble

It’s all about get Trump

And Guess what
These Drug Overlords have been pumping drugs into the US for half a century now pretty much unabated in the host countries …. These countries like Mexico, Colombia and Venezuela look the other way because their governments are paid to do so on a huge scale.

Good job Trump!
we finally have a leader who is willing to take on these complex international drug trafficking organizations and their corrupt governments that have killed more Americans than all the terrorist combined

And you guys crying about what Trump is doing don’t give a shit about those brown people on those boats….

[kalm]

Too simple

Nobody even blinked on the left when Obama was blowing up people in Pakistan and all over the world when he was president… because they were designated as terrorist. I supported Obama on this.

And back then, nobody on the right tried to plant seeds into the minds of military members basically saying you better be careful here, blowing up terrorist on the orders of the President might be illegal…. You could get in trouble

It’s all about get Trump

And Guess what
These Drug Overlords have been pumping drugs into the US for half a century now pretty much unabated in the host countries …. These countries like Mexico, Colombia and Venezuela look the other way because their governments are paid to do so on a huge scale.

Good job Trump!
we finally have a leader who is willing to take on these complex international drug trafficking organizations and their corrupt governments that have killed more Americans than all the terrorist combined

And you guys crying about what Trump is doing don’t give a shit about those brown people on those boats….

What a vivid imagination.

I had a huge problem as did many lefty commentators on Obama’s use of drones. Especially the killing of Anwar al-Awlaki and his son.

That was wrong but WAY different than Trump and Hegseth’s strategies.

The only ways to eradicate drug use are a to become a full blown authoritarian state, ignoring due process and human rights or to eliminate demand.

Bombing a few boats and murdering 80 alleged traffickers ain’t gonna do shit except make pretend general boy feel tough.

[Caribbean Hen]

Too simple

Nobody even blinked on the left when Obama was blowing up people in Pakistan and all over the world when he was president… because they were designated as terrorist. I supported Obama on this.

And back then, nobody on the right tried to plant seeds into the minds of military members basically saying you better be careful here, blowing up terrorist on the orders of the President might be illegal…. You could get in trouble

It’s all about get Trump

And Guess what
These Drug Overlords have been pumping drugs into the US for half a century now pretty much unabated in the host countries …. These countries like Mexico, Colombia and Venezuela look the other way because their governments are paid to do so on a huge scale.

Good job Trump!
we finally have a leader who is willing to take on these complex international drug trafficking organizations and their corrupt governments that have killed more Americans than all the terrorist combined

And you guys crying about what Trump is doing don’t give a shit about those brown people on those boats….

What a vivid imagination.

I had a huge problem as did many lefty commentators on Obama’s use of drones. Especially the killing of Anwar al-Awlaki and his son.

That was wrong but WAY different than Trump and Hegseth’s strategies.

The only ways to eradicate drug use are a to become a full blown authoritarian state, ignoring due process and human rights or to eliminate demand.

Bombing a few boats and murdering 80 alleged traffickers ain’t gonna do shit except make pretend general boy feel tough.

Congratulations for mentioning demand!

That’s on us

But when the Democrats have been tearing down the importance of family for 70 years, Nobody should be surprised at the demand for drugs. And Yes, the demand doesn’t all come from Democrats.

But our inner cities are controlled by the drugs lords and the drugs coming up from these countries and it creates crime and it creates mothers that can’t send the kids outside and play in peace

But for some reason, YOU…. don’t wanna do a damn thing about it

[kalm]

What a vivid imagination.

I had a huge problem as did many lefty commentators on Obama’s use of drones. Especially the killing of Anwar al-Awlaki and his son.

That was wrong but WAY different than Trump and Hegseth’s strategies.

The only ways to eradicate drug use are a to become a full blown authoritarian state, ignoring due process and human rights or to eliminate demand.

Bombing a few boats and murdering 80 alleged traffickers ain’t gonna do shit except make pretend general boy feel tough.

Congratulations for mentioning demand!

That’s on us

But when the Democrats have been tearing down the importance of family for 70 years, Nobody should be surprised at the demand for drugs. And Yes, the demand doesn’t all come from Democrats.

But our inner cities are controlled by the drugs lords and the drugs coming up from these countries and it creates crime and it creates mothers that can’t send the kids outside and play in peace

But for some reason, YOU…. don’t wanna do a damn thing about it

Of course I want something done about it you silly person. It’s not just demand for drugs it’s demand for escaping reality and dealing with stress. It’s a healthcare issue at its core. Family is one arrow in the quiver. Education, mental health awareness and treatment are a couple more.

And this includes legal drugs like weed and especially booze - the most abused drug of all.

[UNI88]

What a vivid imagination.

I had a huge problem as did many lefty commentators on Obama’s use of drones. Especially the killing of Anwar al-Awlaki and his son.

That was wrong but WAY different than Trump and Hegseth’s strategies.

The only ways to eradicate drug use are a to become a full blown authoritarian state, ignoring due process and human rights or to eliminate demand.

Bombing a few boats and murdering 80 alleged traffickers ain’t gonna do shit except make pretend general boy feel tough.

Congratulations for mentioning demand!

That’s on us

But when the Democrats have been tearing down the importance of family for 70 years, Nobody should be surprised at the demand for drugs. And Yes, the demand doesn’t all come from Democrats.

But our inner cities are controlled by the drugs lords and the drugs coming up from these countries and it creates crime and it creates mothers that can’t send the kids outside and play in peace

But for some reason, YOU…. don’t wanna do a damn thing about it

Both parties pay lip service to family when it suits their purposes just look at ICE/CBP separating families for all the proof you need that Republicans don't really give 2 shits about families.

You fail to mention that a big reason inner cities are like that is because of racist policies of the past (police abuse of minorities, redlining, lending policy differences, etc.). Ending those policies doesn't magically erase the disparities and mistrust they created. It takes time and effort to build that trust and those communities.

[Caribbean Hen]

Congratulations for mentioning demand!

That’s on us

But when the Democrats have been tearing down the importance of family for 70 years, Nobody should be surprised at the demand for drugs. And Yes, the demand doesn’t all come from Democrats.

But our inner cities are controlled by the drugs lords and the drugs coming up from these countries and it creates crime and it creates mothers that can’t send the kids outside and play in peace

But for some reason, YOU…. don’t wanna do a damn thing about it

Of course I want something done about it you silly person. It’s not just demand for drugs it’s demand for escaping reality and dealing with stress. It’s a healthcare issue at its core. Family is one arrow in the quiver. Education, mental health awareness and treatment are a couple more.

And this includes legal drugs like weed and especially booze - the most abused drug of all.

You think that people would’ve had enough of silly Klam posts

escape reality? Dealing with stress ?

How bout man the fuck up …. Sounds like you needed a boot to the ass when you were growing up. JFC you are pathetic.

[kalm]

Of course I want something done about it you silly person. It’s not just demand for drugs it’s demand for escaping reality and dealing with stress. It’s a healthcare issue at its core. Family is one arrow in the quiver. Education, mental health awareness and treatment are a couple more.

And this includes legal drugs like weed and especially booze - the most abused drug of all.

You think that people would’ve had enough of silly Klam posts

escape reality? Dealing with stress ?

How bout man the fuck up …. Sounds like you needed a boot to the ass when you were growing up. JFC you are pathetic.

Oh..are you one of those tough guys who don’t believe in depression, anxiety, bi-polar, neuro-diversion, etc? That a shit ton of people self medicate to deal with the suffering that life holds in store for us?

I’d say that makes you a shitty human being but there’s a sad story behind your insecurity and world view as well.

Nah…you’re just a highly uniformed, willfully ignorant, child.

[UNI88]

Of course I want something done about it you silly person. It’s not just demand for drugs it’s demand for escaping reality and dealing with stress. It’s a healthcare issue at its core. Family is one arrow in the quiver. Education, mental health awareness and treatment are a couple more.

And this includes legal drugs like weed and especially booze - the most abused drug of all.

You think that people would’ve had enough of silly Klam posts

escape reality? Dealing with stress ?

How bout man the fuck up …. Sounds like you needed a boot to the ass when you were growing up. JFC you are pathetic.

That’s a low blow comparing kalm’s childhood to trump’s.


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