Where do we go to war next?

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Re: Where do we go to war next?

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UNI88 wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:33 pm Ok Geronimo. Just call me Quanah88, stuck between 2 worlds.

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Re: Where do we go to war next?

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AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 5:45 pm
∞∞∞ wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:20 am AZ killing his family to own the libs.

I wish I didn't jest about the civil war thing, or this entire thread really.

I'm echoing people who have seen the brutality of war (soldiers, immigrants, own family), but the sheer waste of human life and absolute misery isn't something you want at your front door for all the love or money in the world. Look around you....you want to bring Syria, Iraq, Beirut, or even a tempered conflict like the Troubles to your loved ones, your children, your family?

You want to destroy everything we've built, ruin the economy, collapse the dollar, bring in foreign troops to our land?

For Americans who don't know a day of real suffering, civil war isn't akin to some sport. It'll be years of asymmetrical warfare complete with death and destruction of all things in its way.
Good lord. You took my post seriously? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :dunce:

And the only “foreign troops” would be mercenaries. They ain’t coming draped in their country’s flag.
Should we not take a US House Rep seriously?

(For those easily offended by liberal opinion pieces, no need to read past the Hawthorne quote)
The congressman from North Carolina brandished a gun as he addressed a Macon county Republican event last weekend. “We all need to be storing up some ammunition,” Madison Cawthorn warned the crowd, as he embraced the big lie about the 2020 presidential race and insisted that “we all know it was a stolen election”.

Then, chillingly, Cawthorn conjured a second civil war being fought over his fraudulent claims. “If our election systems continue to be rigged and continue to be stolen, then it’s going to lead to one place,” Cawthorn said, “and that’s bloodshed … As much as I am willing to defend our liberty at all costs, there’s nothing I would dread doing more than having to pick up arms against a fellow American.”

We awaken every day to pillars of liberal democracy torn down, wrecked norms and ruined institutions, fresh assaults on foundational freedoms from state legislatures and runaway courts, political leaders bathed in the hateful stew of rightwing media and racing to bend a knee before an authoritarian leader who himself bowed before dictators and cared so little for his voters that he offered them bleach during a pandemic.

The roots of this fearful moment run deep: a constitutional system unprepared for a political party willing to play constitutional hardball; a Democratic party that neglected local elections while Republicans invested in a decades-long effort to capture state legislatures and the courts; winner-takes-all districts that break toward extremes under severe polarization; a nation that has never been willing to embrace multiracial democracy.

But there’s a simpler reason that Cawthorn can spew such an abhorrent incitement to violence. His extremism was created intentionally by aggressive partisan gerrymandering. Cawthorn and many of the other demagogues and conspiracy theorists who have hijacked the Republican party owe their seats to the noncompetitive districts Republicans drew themselves a decade ago. Without gerrymandering, Cawthorn would just be another loudmouth Twitter troll pumped full of Newsmax nuttiness. With it, he’s issuing a call to arms as a prominent member of an elite Washington club of 435.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... lM9LqrAiRU
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Re: Where do we go to war next?

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kalm wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 6:46 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 5:45 pm

Good lord. You took my post seriously? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :dunce:

And the only “foreign troops” would be mercenaries. They ain’t coming draped in their country’s flag.
Should we not take a US House Rep seriously?

(For those easily offended by liberal opinion pieces, no need to read past the Hawthorne quote)
The congressman from North Carolina brandished a gun as he addressed a Macon county Republican event last weekend. “We all need to be storing up some ammunition,” Madison Cawthorn warned the crowd, as he embraced the big lie about the 2020 presidential race and insisted that “we all know it was a stolen election”.

Then, chillingly, Cawthorn conjured a second civil war being fought over his fraudulent claims. “If our election systems continue to be rigged and continue to be stolen, then it’s going to lead to one place,” Cawthorn said, “and that’s bloodshed … As much as I am willing to defend our liberty at all costs, there’s nothing I would dread doing more than having to pick up arms against a fellow American.”

We awaken every day to pillars of liberal democracy torn down, wrecked norms and ruined institutions, fresh assaults on foundational freedoms from state legislatures and runaway courts, political leaders bathed in the hateful stew of rightwing media and racing to bend a knee before an authoritarian leader who himself bowed before dictators and cared so little for his voters that he offered them bleach during a pandemic.

The roots of this fearful moment run deep: a constitutional system unprepared for a political party willing to play constitutional hardball; a Democratic party that neglected local elections while Republicans invested in a decades-long effort to capture state legislatures and the courts; winner-takes-all districts that break toward extremes under severe polarization; a nation that has never been willing to embrace multiracial democracy.

But there’s a simpler reason that Cawthorn can spew such an abhorrent incitement to violence. His extremism was created intentionally by aggressive partisan gerrymandering. Cawthorn and many of the other demagogues and conspiracy theorists who have hijacked the Republican party owe their seats to the noncompetitive districts Republicans drew themselves a decade ago. Without gerrymandering, Cawthorn would just be another loudmouth Twitter troll pumped full of Newsmax nuttiness. With it, he’s issuing a call to arms as a prominent member of an elite Washington club of 435.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... lM9LqrAiRU
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Ibanez wrote:
kalm wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 6:46 am Should we not take a US House Rep seriously?

(For those easily offended by liberal opinion pieces, no need to read past the Hawthorne quote)
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... lM9LqrAiRU
Cawthorn is choad. A well placed stick in his spoke in his wheelchair is all one needs.
If there’s a civil war he’ll need someone to push him there


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Here’s the thing: it doesn’t matter if the election was ACTUALLY stolen…all that matters is if a majority of people THINK the election was stolen for shit to get real.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:03 pm Here’s the thing: it doesn’t matter if the election was ACTUALLY stolen…all that matters is if a majority of people THINK the election was stolen for shit to get real.
So was it an insurrection or not? :suspicious:
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AZGrizFan wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:03 pm Here’s the thing: it doesn’t matter if the election was ACTUALLY stolen…all that matters is if a majority of people THINK the election was stolen for shit to get real.
Only about 1 in 4 believe both 2016 amd 2020 were legit.
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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:49 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:03 pm Here’s the thing: it doesn’t matter if the election was ACTUALLY stolen…all that matters is if a majority of people THINK the election was stolen for shit to get real.
Only about 1 in 4 believe both 2016 amd 2020 were legit.
https://www.deseret.com/opinion/2021/3/ ... id-ballots
So what are they going to do about it?
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kalm wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:03 pm Here’s the thing: it doesn’t matter if the election was ACTUALLY stolen…all that matters is if a majority of people THINK the election was stolen for shit to get real.
So were there any insurrections or not? :suspicious:
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kalm wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:04 am
BDKJMU wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:49 pm
Only about 1 in 4 believe both 2016 amd 2020 were legit.
https://www.deseret.com/opinion/2021/3/ ... id-ballots
So what are they going to do about it?
Isn’t this a conversation about civil war? Try and keep up….
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AZGrizFan wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 9:16 am
kalm wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:04 am

So what are they going to do about it?
Isn’t this a conversation about civil war? Try and keep up….
The 20% who think Trump won are going to start a civil war? :suspicious:
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CID1990 wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 4:49 pm
Ibanez wrote: Cawthorn is choad. A well placed stick in his spoke in his wheelchair is all one needs.
If there’s a civil war he’ll need someone to push him there


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Ibanez wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 1:32 pm
Winterborn wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 1:30 pm

Next time we have a beer, remind me. :thumb:

That guy had a bunch of cool stories, he worked all over the world and his job got him into a few areas that he said reporters were not even allowed in just due to the fact that the government wanted their equipment.
Well next time you're on this side of the country, i'll buy you a few beers in return for some stories.
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