Coronavirus COVID-19

[Gil Dobie]

The one I posted on ags had a vax cicle instead of mask.

[∞∞∞]

What does "real" in quotes mean, because that typically implies you don't actually believe it's real.

[kalm]

What does "real" in quotes mean, because that typically implies you don't actually believe it's real.

It’s actually just the flu.

[houndawg]

Its a Democrat hoax.

[Ibanez]

Florida:
Reject public safety measures
Legislate what private businesses and public schools can and can't enforce/ require
Bitch and Moan about the Fed Gov't and COVID


Also, Florida:

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. – As a result of the increase in COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations, the state of Florida requested 300 ventilators from the federal government, according to a Department of Health and Human Services planning document obtained by ABC News.

The request was made on Friday “to replace expended state stores,” the document said.

https://www.local10.com/news/local/2021 ... xhaustion/

[UNI88]

That's me too with a couple of changes ... I would add that businesses have the right to require a mask to the upper right circle and "by Democrats and Republicans" to the lower circle.

[Ibanez]

That's me too with a couple of changes ... I would add that businesses have the right to require a mask to the upper right circle and "by Democrats and Republicans" to the lower circle.

Yup.
Companies can make the rules for their own safety w/o government interference.
Local schoolboards should determine how best to handle their schools

[∞∞∞]

Yup.
Companies can make the rules for their own safety w/o government interference.
Local schoolboards should determine how best to handle their schools

If there's one thing I've learned being in the workforce, and from reading history, it's that companies will rarely make rules that benefit their employees unless forced to by government (aka. the People).

Plenty of workers have passed away from or contracted Covid-19 due to the lackadaisical approach to health concerns at the workplace.

[AZGrizFan]

Yup.
Companies can make the rules for their own safety w/o government interference.
Local schoolboards should determine how best to handle their schools

If there's one thing I've learned being in the workforce, and from reading history, is that companies will never make rules that benefit their employees unless forced to by government (aka. the People).

you're in the wrong industry. My company has made a SHITLOAD of "rules" that benefit employees during this genned up pandemic.

[∞∞∞]

That's nice AZ, I'm sure that statement really helps all the people who aren't protected. They should all pull themselves up by the bootstraps, quit their jobs, and find different ones because that's always the practical approach to everything... especially since we vote down all social safety nets which it make it easier to leave your job in order to protect your well-being.

[AZGrizFan]

That's nice AZ, I'm sure that statement really helps people who aren't protected. They should all pull themselves up by the bootstraps, quit their jobs, and find different ones because that's always the practical approach to everything... especially since we vote down every social safety net so it makes it super easy to just leave your job.

Hey, dipstick....all I'm doing is pointing out the (once again) GIANT hypocrisy of your BLANKET statement that "companies will NEVER (emphasis added) make rules that benefit employees" unless forced to. Maybe YOUR company does that BS. Maybe OTHER companies do it. But certainly not ALL companies, and the only one that I've worked for that operated that way was the US government.

Here's a thought: quit making blanket statements with giant logical holes in them and you'll be mocked less....

just a short list of some of the employee-friendly rules we implemented as a result of COVID:

- paid 100% of our employees 100% of their pay, whether they were able to come to work or not ($3.9 million in expense)
- didn't lay off a single employee, even if they were unable (for whatever reason) to work from home during the height of the pandemic
- paid 100% of their salaries even if they were on leave due to COVID issues, daycare issues, primary care provider issues, etc.
- paid 100% of COVID related costs for anyone unfortunate enough to incur costs associated with severe COVID cases ($900,000 in expense)
- spent $2 million in employee safety devices (temp scanners, DHP air scrubbers, plexiglass, etc.) for enhanced employee safety
- moved 74% of employees to work-from-home status, and 50% still remain there today

And NONE of these decisions were made/forced by "the people". We did them because they were the right thing to do.

[∞∞∞]

Don't worry, I don't consider what you say to be mocking, just disconnected from reality and history.

Pro tip: random capitalizations and ancient slang like dipstick work better as old uncle rants on Facebook.

[AZGrizFan]

Don't worry, I don't consider what you say to be mocking, just disconnected from reality and history.

Pro tip: random capitalizations and ancient slang like dipstick work better as old uncle rants on Facebook.

There's one person in this convo disconnected from reality, and it ain't me.

[∞∞∞]

Definitely not you, the person who thinks this is a "ginned up" pandemic. Too bad the 4.3M and 710K who have lost their lives around the world and the US, respectively, aren't here to give their thoughts about how connected to reality that statement is.

[AZGrizFan]

Definitely not you, the person who thinks this is a "ginned up" pandemic. Too bad the 4.3M and 710K who have lost their lives around the world and the US, respectively, aren't here to give their thoughts about how connected to reality that statement is.

You're so disconnected you can't even sense sarcasm.

Be well, youngster.

[Ibanez]

Yup.
Companies can make the rules for their own safety w/o government interference.
Local schoolboards should determine how best to handle their schools

If there's one thing I've learned being in the workforce, and from reading history, it's that companies will rarely make rules that benefit their employees unless forced to by government (aka. the People).

Plenty of workers have passed away from or contracted Covid-19 due to the lackadaisical approach to health concerns at the workplace.

Shit...the financial industry, for all it's flaws, is going hard core on protections.

[Ibanez]

If there's one thing I've learned being in the workforce, and from reading history, is that companies will never make rules that benefit their employees unless forced to by government (aka. the People).

you're in the wrong industry. My company has made a SHITLOAD of "rules" that benefit employees during this genned up pandemic.

I see my esteemed banking colleague has beat me to it.

[Ibanez]

That's nice AZ, I'm sure that statement really helps people who aren't protected. They should all pull themselves up by the bootstraps, quit their jobs, and find different ones because that's always the practical approach to everything... especially since we vote down every social safety net so it makes it super easy to just leave your job.

Hey, dipstick....all I'm doing is pointing out the (once again) GIANT hypocrisy of your BLANKET statement that "companies will NEVER (emphasis added) make rules that benefit employees" unless forced to. Maybe YOUR company does that BS. Maybe OTHER companies do it. But certainly not ALL companies, and the only one that I've worked for that operated that way was the US government.

Here's a thought: quit making blanket statements with giant logical holes in them and you'll be mocked less....

just a short list of some of the employee-friendly rules we implemented as a result of COVID:

- paid 100% of our employees 100% of their pay, whether they were able to come to work or not ($3.9 million in expense)
- didn't lay off a single employee, even if they were unable (for whatever reason) to work from home during the height of the pandemic
- paid 100% of their salaries even if they were on leave due to COVID issues, daycare issues, primary care provider issues, etc.
- paid 100% of COVID related costs for anyone unfortunate enough to incur costs associated with severe COVID cases ($900,000 in expense)
- spent $2 million in employee safety devices (temp scanners, DHP air scrubbers, plexiglass, etc.) for enhanced employee safety
- moved 74% of employees to work-from-home status, and 50% still remain there today

And NONE of these decisions were made/forced by "the people". We did them because they were the right thing to do.

You know who else has done just about all of that? Most publicly traded companies and many more local businesses that were fortunate enough to adapt a new business model during lockdown in order to at least pay the bills. Not to mention, and I say this anecdotally, the local companies like we have here that partnered together to make sure kids that were in lockdown/shut down and had zero access to nutritional foods, were able to get 3 meals a day. Our local Toppers (pizza), a deli and a few other restaurants made lunch bags and take home dinners, free of charge for needy families.


Sure - there's a company that has been the exact opposite of your CU or BAC - but the businesses that had the resources to support their employees and their families, for the most part, stepped up.


PS - just about everything your CU did was also done by BAC, WF, Ally, JPMorgan and Citi (i'm 90% sure Citi).

[BDKJMU]

That's nice AZ, I'm sure that statement really helps all the people who aren't protected. They should all pull themselves up by the bootstraps, quit their jobs, and find different ones because that's always the practical approach to everything... especially since we vote down all social safety nets which it make it easier to leave your job in order to protect your well-being.

[BDKJMU]

Definitely not you, the person who thinks this is a "ginned up" pandemic. Too bad the 4.3M and 710K who have lost their lives around the world and the US, respectively, aren't here to give their thoughts about how connected to reality that statement is.

615k according to the CDC
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/index.html
but hey, why let facts get in the way of a good story, am I right?

[kalm]

Hey, dipstick....all I'm doing is pointing out the (once again) GIANT hypocrisy of your BLANKET statement that "companies will NEVER (emphasis added) make rules that benefit employees" unless forced to. Maybe YOUR company does that BS. Maybe OTHER companies do it. But certainly not ALL companies, and the only one that I've worked for that operated that way was the US government.

Here's a thought: quit making blanket statements with giant logical holes in them and you'll be mocked less....

just a short list of some of the employee-friendly rules we implemented as a result of COVID:

- paid 100% of our employees 100% of their pay, whether they were able to come to work or not ($3.9 million in expense)
- didn't lay off a single employee, even if they were unable (for whatever reason) to work from home during the height of the pandemic
- paid 100% of their salaries even if they were on leave due to COVID issues, daycare issues, primary care provider issues, etc.
- paid 100% of COVID related costs for anyone unfortunate enough to incur costs associated with severe COVID cases ($900,000 in expense)
- spent $2 million in employee safety devices (temp scanners, DHP air scrubbers, plexiglass, etc.) for enhanced employee safety
- moved 74% of employees to work-from-home status, and 50% still remain there today

And NONE of these decisions were made/forced by "the people". We did them because they were the right thing to do.

You know who else has done just about all of that? Most publicly traded companies and many more local businesses that were fortunate enough to adapt a new business model during lockdown in order to at least pay the bills. Not to mention, and I say this anecdotally, the local companies like we have here that partnered together to make sure kids that were in lockdown/shut down and had zero access to nutritional foods, were able to get 3 meals a day. Our local Toppers (pizza), a deli and a few other restaurants made lunch bags and take home dinners, free of charge for needy families.


Sure - there's a company that has been the exact opposite of your CU or BAC - but the businesses that had the resources to support their employees and their families, for the most part, stepped up.


PS - just about everything your CU did was also done by BAC, WF, Ally, JPMorgan and Citi (i'm 90% sure Citi).

80 some percent of American businesses are small and probably struggle to do what’s needed.

[AZGrizFan]

Hey, dipstick....all I'm doing is pointing out the (once again) GIANT hypocrisy of your BLANKET statement that "companies will NEVER (emphasis added) make rules that benefit employees" unless forced to. Maybe YOUR company does that BS. Maybe OTHER companies do it. But certainly not ALL companies, and the only one that I've worked for that operated that way was the US government.

Here's a thought: quit making blanket statements with giant logical holes in them and you'll be mocked less....

just a short list of some of the employee-friendly rules we implemented as a result of COVID:

- paid 100% of our employees 100% of their pay, whether they were able to come to work or not ($3.9 million in expense)
- didn't lay off a single employee, even if they were unable (for whatever reason) to work from home during the height of the pandemic
- paid 100% of their salaries even if they were on leave due to COVID issues, daycare issues, primary care provider issues, etc.
- paid 100% of COVID related costs for anyone unfortunate enough to incur costs associated with severe COVID cases ($900,000 in expense)
- spent $2 million in employee safety devices (temp scanners, DHP air scrubbers, plexiglass, etc.) for enhanced employee safety
- moved 74% of employees to work-from-home status, and 50% still remain there today

And NONE of these decisions were made/forced by "the people". We did them because they were the right thing to do.

You know who else has done just about all of that? Most publicly traded companies and many more local businesses that were fortunate enough to adapt a new business model during lockdown in order to at least pay the bills. Not to mention, and I say this anecdotally, the local companies like we have here that partnered together to make sure kids that were in lockdown/shut down and had zero access to nutritional foods, were able to get 3 meals a day. Our local Toppers (pizza), a deli and a few other restaurants made lunch bags and take home dinners, free of charge for needy families.


Sure - there's a company that has been the exact opposite of your CU or BAC - but the businesses that had the resources to support their employees and their families, for the most part, stepped up.


PS - just about everything your CU did was also done by BAC, WF, Ally, JPMorgan and Citi (i'm 90% sure Citi).

My point exactly. More proof that trip's comment was absolutely ridiculous.

[UNI88]

You know who else has done just about all of that? Most publicly traded companies and many more local businesses that were fortunate enough to adapt a new business model during lockdown in order to at least pay the bills. Not to mention, and I say this anecdotally, the local companies like we have here that partnered together to make sure kids that were in lockdown/shut down and had zero access to nutritional foods, were able to get 3 meals a day. Our local Toppers (pizza), a deli and a few other restaurants made lunch bags and take home dinners, free of charge for needy families.

Sure - there's a company that has been the exact opposite of your CU or BAC - but the businesses that had the resources to support their employees and their families, for the most part, stepped up.

PS - just about everything your CU did was also done by BAC, WF, Ally, JPMorgan and Citi (i'm 90% sure Citi).

80 some my percent of American businesses are small and probably struggle to do what’s needed.

What's the answer then? Should the government should force them to do something they struggle to do? Or maybe instead of rushing through a stimulus package, our august leaders could have put a little thought into it and provided these businesses with assistance rather than shotgun blasting it to random businesses.

What percentage of American workers are employed by those small businesses?

[Ibanez]

You know who else has done just about all of that? Most publicly traded companies and many more local businesses that were fortunate enough to adapt a new business model during lockdown in order to at least pay the bills. Not to mention, and I say this anecdotally, the local companies like we have here that partnered together to make sure kids that were in lockdown/shut down and had zero access to nutritional foods, were able to get 3 meals a day. Our local Toppers (pizza), a deli and a few other restaurants made lunch bags and take home dinners, free of charge for needy families.


Sure - there's a company that has been the exact opposite of your CU or BAC - but the businesses that had the resources to support their employees and their families, for the most part, stepped up.


PS - just about everything your CU did was also done by BAC, WF, Ally, JPMorgan and Citi (i'm 90% sure Citi).

80 some percent of American businesses are small and probably struggle to do what’s needed.

No doubt. But most people, perhaps I believe this naively, most small businesses try to do what's best for them and their employees within their memes.

[CID1990]

Don't worry, I don't consider what you say to be mocking, just disconnected from reality and history.

Holy cow I might just have a new siggy line

Breathtaking


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