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PA continues to be a mess in terms of handling. Although PA, NJ, DE, and NY were supposedly going to be working together with their response and reopenings, that's not happening. Hair cuts have been allowed in DE for a few weeks, NJ is about to allow them, and Wolf is saying not until places go to Green in PA, which could be another month for some places, even much longer for others. Jersey obviously opened the beaches to avoid economic catastrophe with summer coming up, and now Wolf is calling on PA residents to not go down the shore. Mayors in Jersey are saying come anyway. And PA finally today released nursing home data as to how many cases and how many deaths at specific nursing homes, after resisting to do this for weeks. Still can't go to buy a car in PA (or at least the red parts of PA) - you can go to the same place and get your car serviced, but for some reason can't go to the same place and buy a fancy and clean car. Not really Wolf's shining moment right now.
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Wait...
are we blaming China for spreading a hoax
or are we blaming China for spreading the CVD-19 virus

:tothehand:

I feel like it needs to be one or the other
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Chizzang wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 12:53 pm Wait...
are we blaming China for spreading a hoax
or are we blaming China for spreading the CVD-19 virus

I need somebody to explain this to me like I was a 5 yr old

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I feel like it needs to be one or the other
The conundrum comes from too many people listening, and to my amazement, believing the President that talks like a 5 year old
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Chizzang wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 12:53 pm Wait...
are we blaming China for spreading a hoax
or are we blaming China for spreading the CVD-19 virus

:tothehand:

I feel like it needs to be one or the other
We're pretending it's a meme with some true info mixed with some false info.
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GannonFan wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 12:45 pm PA continues to be a mess in terms of handling. Although PA, NJ, DE, and NY were supposedly going to be working together with their response and reopenings, that's not happening. Hair cuts have been allowed in DE for a few weeks, NJ is about to allow them, and Wolf is saying not until places go to Green in PA, which could be another month for some places, even much longer for others. Jersey obviously opened the beaches to avoid economic catastrophe with summer coming up, and now Wolf is calling on PA residents to not go down the shore. Mayors in Jersey are saying come anyway. And PA finally today released nursing home data as to how many cases and how many deaths at specific nursing homes, after resisting to do this for weeks. Still can't go to buy a car in PA (or at least the red parts of PA) - you can go to the same place and get your car serviced, but for some reason can't go to the same place and buy a fancy and clean car. Not really Wolf's shining moment right now.
Haircuts (with restrictions) started in Delaware 11 days ago (May 8), but those are only for "essential workers" and I assume for only Delaware residents.
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If that wasn't the case, I would have tried to get a cut in Delaware already. Was going to try in VA this past weekend, as they allowed barbershops to open with restrictions last Fri (5/15), but it didn't happen for me. I'm hoping to get a cut somewhere between PA and VA in the next 2 1/2 weeks..
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Chizzang wrote:Wait...
are we blaming China for spreading a hoax
or are we blaming China for spreading the CVD-19 virus

:tothehand:

I feel like it needs to be one or the other
You might want to direct that question at the people here who said the virus was a hoax

As for me, there is no conundrum

China covered up this virus in the crucial period when it could have been contained, with the assistance of a co-opted WHO General Secretary (who also has a history of covering up outbreaks of disease in Ethiopia)

Once again, people are somehow thinking that criticizing China is a defense of Trump


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Weird how China alters data...

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Chizzang wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 10:03 pm Weird how China alters data...

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Woopsie!

Georgia appears to have a similar issue....

“Others worry the data is being portrayed in a way that favors Kemp’s early easing of restrictions. A separate graph on DPH’s page has led readers to think that cases were dropping dramatically, even though lower case numbers were the result of a lag in data collection.

“I have a hard time understanding how this happens without it being deliberate,” said State Rep. Jasmine Clark, D-Lilburn, who received her doctorate in microbiology and molecular genetics at Emory University. “Literally nowhere ever in any type of statistics would that be acceptable.”

Wrong information about Georgia’s battle against COVID-19 is already shaping the way the public sees the state. A Friday column in The Wall Street Journal dubbed Kemp’s controversial decision to begin reopening, “The Georgia Model.”

It said the state is experiencing “a welcome trend of declining new cases and deaths.”

In fact, seven-day rolling averages of cases show only a slight decline over two weeks. Deaths appear to have plateaued, according to an Atlanta Journal-Constitution analysis of daily DPH reports. The impact of reopening Georgia’s economy is still too early to measure for both new infections and deaths because of the lag time between an infection, testing, diagnosis and, potentially, death.“


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Chizzang wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 12:53 pm Wait...
are we blaming China for spreading a hoax
or are we blaming China for spreading the CVD-19 virus

:tothehand:

I feel like it needs to be one or the other
Expand your mind. There's a scenario where both can coexist. :coffee:
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CAA Flagship wrote: Wed May 20, 2020 6:08 am
Chizzang wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 12:53 pm Wait...
are we blaming China for spreading a hoax
or are we blaming China for spreading the CVD-19 virus

:tothehand:

I feel like it needs to be one or the other
Expand your mind. There's a scenario where both can coexist. :coffee:
I'm pretty familiar with the gymnastics required to retain support for President Trump
a world where every possibility is happening simultaneously
depending on who you're talking to at that moment

:coffee:

haven't we all been watching that live for 3 years now ?
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Here's a link to the tweet so you can read the whole thread.

https://twitter.com/kerpen/status/1262783822925647872
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Chizzang wrote: Wed May 20, 2020 7:19 am
CAA Flagship wrote: Wed May 20, 2020 6:08 am

Expand your mind. There's a scenario where both can coexist. :coffee:
I'm pretty familiar with the gymnastics required to retain support for President Trump
a world where every possibility is happening simultaneously
depending on who you're talking to at that moment

:coffee:

haven't we all been watching that live for 3 years now ?
:lol: I don't think my sarcastic comment deserved that big of a response.
A simple "fuck you" would have sufficed. :lol:
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HI54UNI wrote: Wed May 20, 2020 7:26 am Here's a link to the tweet so you can read the whole thread.

https://twitter.com/kerpen/status/1262783822925647872
Yeah, PA is a crap show right now in terms of how to handle a pandemic. If PA wasn't so politically screwed up at the state level as it's historically been, this would be an even bigger story. PA government completely fumbled the ball on nursing homes while at the same time were arbitrary and capricious about what was, and still is, allowed to be open. Wolf can't run again as his term limits are up, but he wouldn't be in a strong place if he did have to run again. Can't imagine the Biden camp is happy about the state of affairs in PA - the potential to flip this state in November gets worse and worse as time goes on.
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Chizzang wrote:Weird how China alters data...

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Non sequitur

China’s one-Party apparatus craves complete power, just as politicians in free societies do

And like China’s CCP those politicians will lie to avoid accountability or to appease their constituencies

The difference is that in China, you won’t see reporting like what you posted without somebody disappearing, and there’s no independent media so they won’t report it, either.

Wasn’t it you who got in a tizzy over me posting boat people a few days ago? Something about being intentionally obtuse or something?
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CID1990 wrote: Wed May 20, 2020 9:10 am
Chizzang wrote:Weird how China alters data...

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Non sequitur

China’s one-Party apparatus craves complete power, just as politicians in free societies do

And like China’s CCP those politicians will lie to avoid accountability or to appease their constituencies

The difference is that in China, you won’t see reporting like what you posted without somebody disappearing, and there’s no independent media so they won’t report it, either.

Wasn’t it you who got in a tizzy over me posting boat people a few days ago? Something about being intentionally obtuse or something?
please don't think I'm supporting China - fuck China
I'm just entertaining myself with Florida Governor Ron DeSantis announcing that China was lying to the world
Then he pulls the same tricks China pulled - and lies to the world

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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote: Wed May 20, 2020 9:10 am Non sequitur

China’s one-Party apparatus craves complete power, just as politicians in free societies do

And like China’s CCP those politicians will lie to avoid accountability or to appease their constituencies

The difference is that in China, you won’t see reporting like what you posted without somebody disappearing, and there’s no independent media so they won’t report it, either.

Wasn’t it you who got in a tizzy over me posting boat people a few days ago? Something about being intentionally obtuse or something?
please don't think I'm supporting China - fuck China
I'm just entertaining myself with Florida Governor Ron DeSantis announcing that China was lying to the world
Then he pulls the same tricks China pulled - and lies to the world

:nod:
Well its a good thing we aren’t China, then

otherwise you wouldn’t be wise to the irony because you wouldn’t know about it


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CID1990 wrote: Wed May 20, 2020 9:40 am
Chizzang wrote:
please don't think I'm supporting China - fuck China
I'm just entertaining myself with Florida Governor Ron DeSantis announcing that China was lying to the world
Then he pulls the same tricks China pulled - and lies to the world

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Well its a good thing we aren’t China, then

otherwise you wouldn’t be wise to the irony because you wouldn’t know about it
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CID1990 wrote: Wed May 20, 2020 9:40 am Well its a good thing we aren’t China, then

otherwise you wouldn’t be wise to the irony because you wouldn’t know about it
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Chizzang wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 10:03 pm Weird how China alters data...

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Well......

She is a "data scientist"...a computer geek, not an epidemiologist.

The *actual* epidemiologist told her to correct her flawed data and she refused. She got fired for insubordination.

Context means everything.
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kalm wrote: Wed May 20, 2020 4:39 am
Chizzang wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 10:03 pm Weird how China alters data...

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Woopsie!

Georgia appears to have a similar issue....

“Others worry the data is being portrayed in a way that favors Kemp’s early easing of restrictions. A separate graph on DPH’s page has led readers to think that cases were dropping dramatically, even though lower case numbers were the result of a lag in data collection.

“I have a hard time understanding how this happens without it being deliberate,” said State Rep. Jasmine Clark, D-Lilburn, who received her doctorate in microbiology and molecular genetics at Emory University. “Literally nowhere ever in any type of statistics would that be acceptable.”

Wrong information about Georgia’s battle against COVID-19 is already shaping the way the public sees the state. A Friday column in The Wall Street Journal dubbed Kemp’s controversial decision to begin reopening, “The Georgia Model.”

It said the state is experiencing “a welcome trend of declining new cases and deaths.”

In fact, seven-day rolling averages of cases show only a slight decline over two weeks. Deaths appear to have plateaued, according to an Atlanta Journal-Constitution analysis of daily DPH reports. The impact of reopening Georgia’s economy is still too early to measure for both new infections and deaths because of the lag time between an infection, testing, diagnosis and, potentially, death.“


https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regiona ... 8vO11NVGO/
Not really...a few dates got mismatched. No big deal.

State Reps with a (D) behind their name and the AJC still have a hard-on about the 2018 election. They can't call out the Governor because cases have actually flattened out and decreased while testing has increased exponentially, so they have got to concoct some sort of "controversy".
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Baldy wrote: Wed May 20, 2020 11:27 am
kalm wrote: Wed May 20, 2020 4:39 am

Woopsie!

Georgia appears to have a similar issue....

“Others worry the data is being portrayed in a way that favors Kemp’s early easing of restrictions. A separate graph on DPH’s page has led readers to think that cases were dropping dramatically, even though lower case numbers were the result of a lag in data collection.

“I have a hard time understanding how this happens without it being deliberate,” said State Rep. Jasmine Clark, D-Lilburn, who received her doctorate in microbiology and molecular genetics at Emory University. “Literally nowhere ever in any type of statistics would that be acceptable.”

Wrong information about Georgia’s battle against COVID-19 is already shaping the way the public sees the state. A Friday column in The Wall Street Journal dubbed Kemp’s controversial decision to begin reopening, “The Georgia Model.”

It said the state is experiencing “a welcome trend of declining new cases and deaths.”

In fact, seven-day rolling averages of cases show only a slight decline over two weeks. Deaths appear to have plateaued, according to an Atlanta Journal-Constitution analysis of daily DPH reports. The impact of reopening Georgia’s economy is still too early to measure for both new infections and deaths because of the lag time between an infection, testing, diagnosis and, potentially, death.“


https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regiona ... 8vO11NVGO/
Not really...a few dates got mismatched. No big deal.

State Reps with a (D) behind their name and the AJC still have a hard-on about the 2018 election. They can't call out the Governor because cases have actually flattened out and decreased while testing has increased exponentially, so they have got to concoct some sort of "controversy".
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Chizzang wrote: Wed May 20, 2020 12:24 pm
Baldy wrote: Wed May 20, 2020 11:27 am

Not really...a few dates got mismatched. No big deal.

State Reps with a (D) behind their name and the AJC still have a hard-on about the 2018 election. They can't call out the Governor because cases have actually flattened out and decreased while testing has increased exponentially, so they have got to concoct some sort of "controversy".
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CID1990 wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 8:10 pm
Chizzang wrote:Wait...
are we blaming China for spreading a hoax
or are we blaming China for spreading the CVD-19 virus

:tothehand:

I feel like it needs to be one or the other
You might want to direct that question at the people here who said the virus was a hoax

As for me, there is no conundrum

China covered up this virus in the crucial period when it could have been contained, with the assistance of a co-opted WHO General Secretary (who also has a history of covering up outbreaks of disease in Ethiopia)

Once again, people are somehow thinking that criticizing China is a defense of Trump


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