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[UNI88]

Or trying to hit a 98 MPH fast ball?

At least a golf ball is stationary.

Non sequitur.

Why?

A moving ball is an incredible variable that makes baseball far more exacting.

[kalm]

Does striking a golf ball require more focus than shooting a free throw and or kicking a FG/XP?

Or trying to hit a 98 MPH fast ball?

At least a golf ball is stationary.

Which lends credence to how tough it is. Another part of the argument are the differences between just making contact, solid contact, and proximity to target. Then through in environmental factors as 89 suggested.

Hit a 2 iron from a hanging lie in the rough against a slightly hurting left to right cross wind to a postage stamp green with exactly 211 yards to carry the front edge, 221 to the pin, and 226 to the back edge which falls off into a hazard on a green that stimps at 12.5 and is firm.

You can make perfect contact and shape it right but still be fucked.

[dbackjon]

Or trying to hit a 98 MPH fast ball?

At least a golf ball is stationary.

Which lends credence to how tough it is. Another part of the argument are the differences between just making contact, solid contact, and proximity to target. Then through in environmental factors as 89 suggested.

Hit a 2 iron from a hanging lie in the rough against a slightly hurting left to right cross wind to a postage stamp green with exactly 211 yards to carry the front edge, 221 to the pin, and 226 to the back edge which falls off into a hazard on a green that stimps at 12.5 and is firm.

You can make perfect contact and shape it right but still be fucked.

Or, an average Joe golfer can hit the shot.

Average Joe baseballer wouldn't hit a 98-mph fast ball

[SunCoastBlueHen]

Or trying to hit a 98 MPH fast ball?

At least a golf ball is stationary.

Which lends credence to how tough it is. Another part of the argument are the differences between just making contact, solid contact, and proximity to target. Then through in environmental factors as 89 suggested.

Hit a 2 iron from a hanging lie in the rough against a slightly hurting left to right cross wind to a postage stamp green with exactly 211 yards to carry the front edge, 221 to the pin, and 226 to the back edge which falls off into a hazard on a green that stimps at 12.5 and is firm.

You can make perfect contact and shape it right but still be fucked.

I think Jon has a better chance of pulling off that shot than you do of making contact in an at bat against a major league pitcher.

[89Hen]

Non sequitur.

Why?

A moving ball is an incredible variable that makes baseball far more exacting.

You're correct that golfers don't often whiff, so simply hitting a 98 mph fastball obviously is more difficult, but it's not more exacting in the way we're talking about this. That's why it's a non sequitur.

[CAA Flagship]

There is no other sport where the fans are as close to the action. I don't believe there is another sport where it it so quiet at the moment leading up to the action. There aren't many sports that require the focus that golf requires. So yeah, it is different than any other sport. Sorry it bothers you.

Bowling.

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[dbackjon]

Which lends credence to how tough it is. Another part of the argument are the differences between just making contact, solid contact, and proximity to target. Then through in environmental factors as 89 suggested.

Hit a 2 iron from a hanging lie in the rough against a slightly hurting left to right cross wind to a postage stamp green with exactly 211 yards to carry the front edge, 221 to the pin, and 226 to the back edge which falls off into a hazard on a green that stimps at 12.5 and is firm.

You can make perfect contact and shape it right but still be fucked.

I think Jon has a better chance of pulling off that shot than you do of making contact in an at bat against a major league pitcher.

Now, not having golfed for decades, probably not. But in college when we golfed once a month, I hit some really good shots (along with a lot of crappy ones).


It is a refined skill to hit the type of shot kalm is describing - I won't argue that.

But what we ARE arguing is that it takes more concentration/funeral level of quiet to be able to hit that shot.

[89Hen]

Which lends credence to how tough it is. Another part of the argument are the differences between just making contact, solid contact, and proximity to target. Then through in environmental factors as 89 suggested.

Hit a 2 iron from a hanging lie in the rough against a slightly hurting left to right cross wind to a postage stamp green with exactly 211 yards to carry the front edge, 221 to the pin, and 226 to the back edge which falls off into a hazard on a green that stimps at 12.5 and is firm.

You can make perfect contact and shape it right but still be fucked.

I think Jon has a better chance of pulling off that shot than you do of making contact in an at bat against a major league pitcher.

I don't gamble but I would bet the FARM on that one.

[kalm]

Which lends credence to how tough it is. Another part of the argument are the differences between just making contact, solid contact, and proximity to target. Then through in environmental factors as 89 suggested.

Hit a 2 iron from a hanging lie in the rough against a slightly hurting left to right cross wind to a postage stamp green with exactly 211 yards to carry the front edge, 221 to the pin, and 226 to the back edge which falls off into a hazard on a green that stimps at 12.5 and is firm.

You can make perfect contact and shape it right but still be fucked.

Or, an average Joe golfer can hit the shot.

Average Joe baseballer wouldn't hit a 98-mph fast ball

[kalm]

I think Jon has a better chance of pulling off that shot than you do of making contact in an at bat against a major league pitcher.

Now, not having golfed for decades, probably not. But in college when we golfed once a month, I hit some really good shots (along with a lot of crappy ones).


It is a refined skill to hit the type of shot kalm is describing - I won't argue that.

But what we ARE arguing is that it takes more concentration/funeral level of quiet to be able to hit that shot.

Can you make perfect contact with a baseball on the ground if needed or over the fence and hit it too hard?

[SunCoastBlueHen]

I think Jon has a better chance of pulling off that shot than you do of making contact in an at bat against a major league pitcher.

Now, not having golfed for decades, probably not. But in college when we golfed once a month, I hit some really good shots (along with a lot of crappy ones).


It is a refined skill to hit the type of shot kalm is describing - I won't argue that.

But what we ARE arguing is that it takes more concentration/funeral level of quiet to be able to hit that shot.

I still give you a .5% chance of hitting that shot - so 1/200.

Kalm's chance of making contact (no bunting) in an MLB at bat is probably closer to 1/1000.

[SunCoastBlueHen]

I think Jon has a better chance of pulling off that shot than you do of making contact in an at bat against a major league pitcher.

I don't gamble but I would bet the FARM on that one.

You would be farmless (though it might take a long, long, long time to get an actual result).

[89Hen]

But what we ARE arguing is that it takes more concentration/funeral level of quiet to be able to hit that shot.

Have you watched the long drive competitions where they urge on the fans to get loud while they're hitting? That's akin to the comparison of the 98 mph fastball. They're not trying to hit a 4.25" target. They're trying to just pound the ball.

Don't listen to two guys who have played in professional tournaments (albeit little ones).

[kalm]

Now, not having golfed for decades, probably not. But in college when we golfed once a month, I hit some really good shots (along with a lot of crappy ones).


It is a refined skill to hit the type of shot kalm is describing - I won't argue that.

But what we ARE arguing is that it takes more concentration/funeral level of quiet to be able to hit that shot.

I still give you a .5% chance of hitting that shot - so 1/200.

Kalm's chance of making contact (no bunting) in an MLB at bat is probably closer to 1/1000.

The overall odds of a hole in one are 12,500 to 1. That's across all yardages and skill levels. For tour pros it's 2500 to 1.

So again, there are many factors and definitions to work out.

Oh...and GFY, SCBH. Slack lines...

[SunCoastBlueHen]

I still give you a .5% chance of hitting that shot - so 1/200.

Kalm's chance of making contact (no bunting) in an MLB at bat is probably closer to 1/1000.

The overall odds of a hole in one are 12,500 to 1. That's across all yardages and skill levels. For tour pros it's 2500 to 1.

So again, there are many factors and definitions to work out.

Oh...and GFY, SCBH. Slack lines...

How did a hole in one enter this conversation? That's like me adding that your contact had to be an upper deck bomb.

Slack lines? Time to get some pics for you. I've been killing it at the beach lately.

[dbackjon]

But what we ARE arguing is that it takes more concentration/funeral level of quiet to be able to hit that shot.

Have you watched the long drive competitions where they urge on the fans to get loud while they're hitting? That's akin to the comparison of the 98 mph fastball. They're not trying to hit a 4.25" target. They're trying to just pound the ball.

Don't listen to two guys who have played in professional tournaments (albeit little ones).

Not even close to the same thing. Baseball players aren't just (well, most) going up and swinging - they are trying to place it as well, and control distance, height, etc.


Just admit it, golfers are spoiled pantywaists.

[89Hen]

There is no other sport where the fans are as close to the action. I don't believe there is another sport where it it so quiet at the moment leading up to the action. There aren't many sports that require the focus that golf requires. So yeah, it is different than any other sport. Sorry it bothers you.

Bowling.

Good call, but I notice they are also silent.

[dbackjon]

Bowling.

Good call, but I notice they are also silent.

You've never sat courtside at a basketball game, have you?

I would guarantee that courtside seats are as close or closer than the gallery.

[SunCoastBlueHen]

Have you watched the long drive competitions where they urge on the fans to get loud while they're hitting? That's akin to the comparison of the 98 mph fastball. They're not trying to hit a 4.25" target. They're trying to just pound the ball.

Don't listen to two guys who have played in professional tournaments (albeit little ones).

Not even close to the same thing. Baseball players aren't just (well, most) going up and swinging - they are trying to place it as well, and control distance, height, etc.


Just admit it, golfers are spoiled pantywaists.

You have to add in that they are not just looking at 98 MPH fastballs. The next pitch could be a slider that starts at your head and breaks over the middle of the plate. What makes hitting a baseball so difficult is recognizing the pitch and reacting to it in a small fraction of a second.

[89Hen]

Have you watched the long drive competitions where they urge on the fans to get loud while they're hitting? That's akin to the comparison of the 98 mph fastball. They're not trying to hit a 4.25" target. They're trying to just pound the ball.

Don't listen to two guys who have played in professional tournaments (albeit little ones).

Not even close to the same thing. Baseball players aren't just (well, most) going up and swinging - they are trying to place it as well, and control distance, height, etc.


Just admit it, golfers are spoiled pantywaists.

Of course they are, but not because of anything we've discussed in this thread.

Juan Soto last night said he was just trying to send the ball back up the middle. He missed the middle by a lot, but still got a hit.

[dbackjon]

Not even close to the same thing. Baseball players aren't just (well, most) going up and swinging - they are trying to place it as well, and control distance, height, etc.


Just admit it, golfers are spoiled pantywaists.

You have to add in that they are not just looking at 98 MPH fastballs. The next pitch could be a slider that starts at your head and breaks over the middle of the plate. What makes hitting a baseball so difficult is recognizing the pitch and reacting to it in a small fraction of a second.

Imagine if a golf ball, while you are trying to hit it, moved, started spinning, etc. (Of course it would have to spin silently, otherwise the golfer would start crying)

[89Hen]

You have to add in that they are not just looking at 98 MPH fastballs. The next pitch could be a slider that starts at your head and breaks over the middle of the plate. What makes hitting a baseball so difficult is recognizing the pitch and reacting to it in a small fraction of a second.

Imagine if a golf ball, while you are trying to hit it, moved, started spinning, etc. (Of course it would have to spin silently, otherwise the golfer would start crying)

This discussion has deteriorated into such nonsense.

[89Hen]

BTW, I can't remember the last time I played a round of golf and didn't have my speaker blasting music.

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[kalm]

The overall odds of a hole in one are 12,500 to 1. That's across all yardages and skill levels. For tour pros it's 2500 to 1.

So again, there are many factors and definitions to work out.

Oh...and GFY, SCBH. Slack lines...

How did a hole in one enter this conversation? That's like me adding that your contact had to be an upper deck bomb.

Slack lines? Time to get some pics for you. I've been killing it at the beach lately.

That's my point. Are you giving dback a 1/200 chance of even making contact? You gotta give him more credit than that.

[SunCoastBlueHen]

How did a hole in one enter this conversation? That's like me adding that your contact had to be an upper deck bomb.

Slack lines? Time to get some pics for you. I've been killing it at the beach lately.

That's my point. Are you giving dback a 1/200 chance of even making contact? You gotta give him more credit than that.

My definition of pulling off the shot is putting it on the green from there.