Doll, I just want you to know that this comment hurt real deep. I've been home crying and shooting up for the past 24 hours, all thanks to this heartless comment. I can't believe someone could be so cruel and shallow to say that Corey is not (part) black.dal4018 wrote:Yes I did live with it!!!!! If Corey were black you would not mention his name!!!!grizzaholic wrote:
oh, no you didn't
You can join Corey in shoot em up heaven!!bandl wrote:Doll, I just want you to know that this comment hurt real deep. I've been home crying and shooting up for the past 24 hours, all thanks to this heartless comment. I can't believe someone could be so cruel and shallow to say that Corey is not (part) black.dal4018 wrote: Yes I did live with it!!!!! If Corey were black you would not mention his name!!!!
I was not the politician who made the original comment.Cluck U wrote:Then how was the quote germane to your argument?dal4018 wrote: I didn't Einstein but the politician who made that statement obviously did!!!
Bandl why all of this concern over Haim how come no love for Robert Downey Jr????bandl wrote:Doll, I just want you to know that this comment hurt real deep. I've been home crying and shooting up for the past 24 hours, all thanks to this heartless comment. I can't believe someone could be so cruel and shallow to say that Corey is not (part) black.dal4018 wrote: Yes I did live with it!!!!! If Corey were black you would not mention his name!!!!
He doesn't have black parents/grandparents, derrrrrrrrrrrrr. Why would I care about him? I'm with you on this one, Doll. If they all white, they ain't right!dal4018 wrote:Bandl why all of this concern over Haim how come no love for Robert Downey Jr????bandl wrote: Doll, I just want you to know that this comment hurt real deep. I've been home crying and shooting up for the past 24 hours, all thanks to this heartless comment. I can't believe someone could be so cruel and shallow to say that Corey is not (part) black.
dal4018 wrote:You can join Corey in shoot em up heaven!!bandl wrote: Doll, I just want you to know that this comment hurt real deep. I've been home crying and shooting up for the past 24 hours, all thanks to this heartless comment. I can't believe someone could be so cruel and shallow to say that Corey is not (part) black.
I understand that...really.dal4018 wrote:I was not the politician who made the original comment.Cluck U wrote:
Then how was the quote germane to your argument?
93henfan wrote:What happens when Corey Haim sprinkles fertilizer on his leg?
His negroes!!!
Gil Dobie wrote:How would Owens have been treated if he had stayed in Germany after the Olympics? He would have been treated with chemicals just like anyone else that was not a member of Hitler's master race.dal4018 wrote: Well Obama is very popular with black and white ppl in case you forgot.Inspite of all of Owens accomplishments he was still treated as a second class citizen in th land of his birth as I stated before.He and the other black athletes were treated as actual human beings in Germany go figure!!!! Obama has to deal racism in the millenium just like Owens did in his era.
Owens attended Ohio St, could he have attended any major state university in the south? Could Obama have attended a major state university in the south? Owens had to deal with actual separation and denial of equal rights and racist name calling, Obama, only raciest name calling.
Thank you Mr Klean school these morons on REAL AMERICAN HISTORY!!!!!! Obama still catches hell Inspite of his title as stated plenty of times but these "enlighten" ppl can't seem to catch the hint!!!!! Racism was and is a nationwide problem again thank Mr Klean!!!mrklean wrote:Gil Dobie wrote:
How would Owens have been treated if he had stayed in Germany after the Olympics? He would have been treated with chemicals just like anyone else that was not a member of Hitler's master race.
Owens attended Ohio St, could he have attended any major state university in the south? Could Obama have attended a major state university in the south? Owens had to deal with actual separation and denial of equal rights and racist name calling, Obama, only raciest name calling.
You dumb FVCK!!, Jim Crow was alive and well in Mid-America. Yes he could attend Ohio State but he could not live in the Dorms. This is Fact.
You are the dumb fvck trying to change the argument that Dal started. He says Obama has it worse with racism than Jessie Owens did. You are just supporting my argument you dumb fvck.mrklean wrote:Gil Dobie wrote:
How would Owens have been treated if he had stayed in Germany after the Olympics? He would have been treated with chemicals just like anyone else that was not a member of Hitler's master race.
Owens attended Ohio St, could he have attended any major state university in the south? Could Obama have attended a major state university in the south? Owens had to deal with actual separation and denial of equal rights and racist name calling, Obama, only raciest name calling.
You dumb FVCK!!, Jim Crow was alive and well in Mid-America. Yes he could attend Ohio State but he could not live in the Dorms. This is Fact.
Dumb Fvck Dal, thanking dumb fvck klean for supporting my argument that Owens had it tougher than Obama.dal4018 wrote:Thank you Mr Klean school these morons on REAL AMERICAN HISTORY!!!!!! Obama still catches hell Inspite of his title as stated plenty of times but these "enlighten" ppl can't seem to catch the hint!!!!! Racism was and is a nationwide problem again thank Mr Klean!!!mrklean wrote:
You dumb FVCK!!, Jim Crow was alive and well in Mid-America. Yes he could attend Ohio State but he could not live in the Dorms. This is Fact.
Gil Dobie the point that you failed to grasp is that nothing has changed in this country.The race problem is more subdued that is all but it is still here.Gil Dobie wrote:Dumb Fvck Dal, thanking dumb fvck klean for supporting my argument that Owens had it tougher than Obama.dal4018 wrote: Thank you Mr Klean school these morons on REAL AMERICAN HISTORY!!!!!! Obama still catches hell Inspite of his title as stated plenty of times but these "enlighten" ppl can't seem to catch the hint!!!!! Racism was and is a nationwide problem again thank Mr Klean!!!
You want to start this name calling crap, I'm obliging.
Yes, duh, I know racism is still an issue. You are wrong by stating that it has not changed. In your own statement you say "problem is more subdued", which is change. You have not proven that Jesse Owens had it easier than Obama. Owens couldn't live in the dorms at his college, couldn't attend southern universities, couldn't eat at any restaurant, used separate bathrooms. Has Obama had to deal with any of this? Not as much as Owens did.dal4018 wrote:Gil Dobie the point that you failed to grasp is that nothing has changed in this country.The race problem is more subdued that is all but it is still here.
I never said Owens had it easier than Obama my point is both men have had to deal with the exact same problem.As Mr Klean told you Owens was denied the right to stay on campus like his fellow teammates at Ohio St and last time I can recall Ohio St is not located in the south.Why do you keep bringing up him going to college in the south.Obama has to deal with death threats to him and his family.Young children on a school bus in Idaho were saying he should be murdered.A school teacher in Atlanta was saying he should be lynched.You tell me how things have changed in this country???Gil Dobie wrote:Yes, duh, I know racism is still an issue. You are wrong by stating that it has not changed. In your own statement you say "problem is more subdued", which is change. You have not proven that Jesse Owens had it easier than Obama. Owens couldn't live in the dorms at his college, couldn't attend southern universities, couldn't eat at any restaurant, used separate bathrooms. Has Obama had to deal with any of this? Not as much as Owens did.dal4018 wrote:Gil Dobie the point that you failed to grasp is that nothing has changed in this country.The race problem is more subdued that is all but it is still here.
There is only one race, the "Human" race. People can choose to be part of the problem or they can choose to be part of the solution.
I am curious, take a look at some of James T Harris radio shows online and let me know what you think. I met him a while back before his radio show days, had dinner and went to a Green Bay Packers game with him. His perspective of the world changed when he traveled the world and was able to view other cultures.
Things have changed. In Owens day, there would have been many more death threats, many more school teachers saying he should be lynched, many more children saying Obama should be murdered and the news media would not have reported it as being unusual.dal4018 wrote:I never said Owens had it easier than Obama my point is both men have had to deal with the exact same problem.As Mr Klean told you Owens was denied the right to stay on campus like his fellow teammates at Ohio St and last time I can recall Ohio St is not located in the south.Why do you keep bringing up him going to college in the south.Obama has to deal with death threats to him and his family.Young children on a school bus in Idaho were saying he should be murdered.A school teacher in Atlanta was saying he should be lynched.You tell me how things have changed in this country???
Have you forgotten that when it came to racism the media was just as bad as the general public.If Mr Klean didn't tell anything you didn't know already why did you keep referring to the fact that Owens was not allowed to attend a southern based university when Ohio St is located in the mid west??You still think the situation in this country has changed tell this to the parents of the late Trayvon Martin,Jordan Davis both young black males in their teens shot down by trigger happy lunatics for no legal reason.When it comes to integration in my personal opinion it ruined black economic independence.When the Negro Leagues was in full stride they provided jobs for black ppl at all levels.Once integration came along all those jobs black ppl used to have disappeared like the Model T.Gil Dobie wrote:Things have changed. In Owens day, there would have been many more death threats, many more school teachers saying he should be lynched, many more children saying Obama should be murdered and the news media would not have reported it as being unusual.dal4018 wrote:I never said Owens had it easier than Obama my point is both men have had to deal with the exact same problem.As Mr Klean told you Owens was denied the right to stay on campus like his fellow teammates at Ohio St and last time I can recall Ohio St is not located in the south.Why do you keep bringing up him going to college in the south.Obama has to deal with death threats to him and his family.Young children on a school bus in Idaho were saying he should be murdered.A school teacher in Atlanta was saying he should be lynched.You tell me how things have changed in this country???
Today less people are involved in this type of behavior and this type of behavior is frowned upon by a larger number than in Owens day. There is less tolerance for this type of behavior, example Howard Cosell, Jimmy the Greek, Riley Cooper etc. Anybody public figure that says anything racists or acts racist loses their job or if they are a Democrat, get reprimanded.
Everything is now integrated, no separate schools, dorms, bathrooms, restaurants, Military units, etc. Back in Owens day, an African American football player for the University of Minnesota, had to sit out a game because they played a school that threatened to boycott the game. This would not happen today. There were no African American players in Major League Baseball in Owens day.
Things change, not as fast as we may want, but maybe as fast as humans can handle.
Klean didn't tell me anything I didn't already know. It's American History, something we can learn from.
mrklean wrote:That isn't what he said. Stick to the facts.Gil Dobie wrote:
How would Owens have been treated if he had stayed in Germany after the Olympics? He would have been treated with chemicals just like anyone else that was not a member of Hitler's master race.
Owens attended Ohio St, could he have attended any major state university in the south? Could Obama have attended a major state university in the south? Owens had to deal with actual separation and denial of equal rights and racist name calling, Obama, only raciest name calling.
You dumb FVCK!!, Jim Crow was alive and well in Mid-America. Yes he could attend Ohio State but he could not live in the Dorms. This is Fact.
Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton have done more harm in the past 20 years than anyone and anything else. As soon the hoodlums take responsibility for their actions, the sooner situations will improve. That goes for white trash as well.dal4018 wrote:Gil Dobie the point that you failed to grasp is that nothing has changed in this country.The race problem is more subdued that is all but it is still here.Gil Dobie wrote:
Dumb Fvck Dal, thanking dumb fvck klean for supporting my argument that Owens had it tougher than Obama.
You want to start this name calling crap, I'm obliging.
So giving blacks equal rights and access ruined everything? Don't cry about Trayvon, you weren't there and can only speculate. Cry about the thousands of black men killed by black men each year. Where is your protest on that issue? Where is your disgust? The biggest threat to black men is other black men.dal4018 wrote:Have you forgotten that when it came to racism the media was just as bad as the general public.If Mr Klean didn't tell anything you didn't know already why did you keep referring to the fact that Owens was not allowed to attend a southern based university when Ohio St is located in the mid west??You still think the situation in this country has changed tell this to the parents of the late Trayvon Martin,Jordan Davis both young black males in their teens shot down by trigger happy lunatics for no legal reason.When it comes to integration in my personal opinion it ruined black economic independence.When the Negro Leagues was in full stride they provided jobs for black ppl at all levels.Once integration came along all those jobs black ppl used to have disappeared like the Model T.Gil Dobie wrote:
Things have changed. In Owens day, there would have been many more death threats, many more school teachers saying he should be lynched, many more children saying Obama should be murdered and the news media would not have reported it as being unusual.
Today less people are involved in this type of behavior and this type of behavior is frowned upon by a larger number than in Owens day. There is less tolerance for this type of behavior, example Howard Cosell, Jimmy the Greek, Riley Cooper etc. Anybody public figure that says anything racists or acts racist loses their job or if they are a Democrat, get reprimanded.
Everything is now integrated, no separate schools, dorms, bathrooms, restaurants, Military units, etc. Back in Owens day, an African American football player for the University of Minnesota, had to sit out a game because they played a school that threatened to boycott the game. This would not happen today. There were no African American players in Major League Baseball in Owens day.
Things change, not as fast as we may want, but maybe as fast as humans can handle.
Klean didn't tell me anything I didn't already know. It's American History, something we can learn from.
When you talk about so called white trash do you include the cops.Last I heard they enjoy using young black males as target practice.The only reason ppl like you mention black on black crime is to say the life of Trayvon Martin had no meaning the word is distraction.His life had just as much meaning as anyone.Ibanez wrote:Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton have done more harm in the past 20 years than anyone and anything else. As soon the hoodlums take responsibility for their actions, the sooner situations will improve. That goes for white trash as well.dal4018 wrote:Gil Dobie the point that you failed to grasp is that nothing has changed in this country.The race problem is more subdued that is all but it is still here.
I have no reason to speculate about Trayvon I know this young man was murdered by a trigger happy night watchman for no reason.He had no weapon on him on the night of 2-26-12.Again he was coming from the convience store with junk food and a cell phone on his person since when do they qualify as weapons of mass destruction??As stated before white ppl care nothing about black on black crime it's another form of distraction when somebody like you discuss this in a public forum.Ibanez wrote:So giving blacks equal rights and access ruined everything? Don't cry about Trayvon, you weren't there and can only speculate. Cry about the thousands of black men killed by black men each year. Where is your protest on that issue? Where is your disgust? The biggest threat to black men is other black men.dal4018 wrote: Have you forgotten that when it came to racism the media was just as bad as the general public.If Mr Klean didn't tell anything you didn't know already why did you keep referring to the fact that Owens was not allowed to attend a southern based university when Ohio St is located in the mid west??You still think the situation in this country has changed tell this to the parents of the late Trayvon Martin,Jordan Davis both young black males in their teens shot down by trigger happy lunatics for no legal reason.When it comes to integration in my personal opinion it ruined black economic independence.When the Negro Leagues was in full stride they provided jobs for black ppl at all levels.Once integration came along all those jobs black ppl used to have disappeared like the Model T.
As stated before you act as if racism was a problem in the south ask Jim Brown about his 4 yrs at Syracuse ask him about the many times they tried to remove him from the team by simple demotion.If the late Paul Robeson were alive he could tell you stories about his four yrs at Rutgers University in our home state of NJ.He had to deal with straight out racism just as Brown and Owens had the "pleasure" of dealing with.Gil Dobie wrote:Things have changed. In Owens day, there would have been many more death threats, many more school teachers saying he should be lynched, many more children saying Obama should be murdered and the news media would not have reported it as being unusual.dal4018 wrote:I never said Owens had it easier than Obama my point is both men have had to deal with the exact same problem.As Mr Klean told you Owens was denied the right to stay on campus like his fellow teammates at Ohio St and last time I can recall Ohio St is not located in the south.Why do you keep bringing up him going to college in the south.Obama has to deal with death threats to him and his family.Young children on a school bus in Idaho were saying he should be murdered.A school teacher in Atlanta was saying he should be lynched.You tell me how things have changed in this country???
Today less people are involved in this type of behavior and this type of behavior is frowned upon by a larger number than in Owens day. There is less tolerance for this type of behavior, example Howard Cosell, Jimmy the Greek, Riley Cooper etc. Anybody public figure that says anything racists or acts racist loses their job or if they are a Democrat, get reprimanded.
Everything is now integrated, no separate schools, dorms, bathrooms, restaurants, Military units, etc. Back in Owens day, an African American football player for the University of Minnesota, had to sit out a game because they played a school that threatened to boycott the game. This would not happen today. There were no African American players in Major League Baseball in Owens day.
Things change, not as fast as we may want, but maybe as fast as humans can handle.
Klean didn't tell me anything I didn't already know. It's American History, something we can learn from.
You are still not getting the point I am trying to convey. I said the media was racist, but you did not get that point. I didn't mention a southern school, but you said I did again. I wasn't there when Trayvon and Jordan were shot, so I don't know the truth and neither do you. Death of young men like Trayvon and Jordan is terrible, just as terrible as any other young men, not matter what culture they belong to.dal4018 wrote:Have you forgotten that when it came to racism the media was just as bad as the general public.If Mr Klean didn't tell anything you didn't know already why did you keep referring to the fact that Owens was not allowed to attend a southern based university when Ohio St is located in the mid west??You still think the situation in this country has changed tell this to the parents of the late Trayvon Martin,Jordan Davis both young black males in their teens shot down by trigger happy lunatics for no legal reason.When it comes to integration in my personal opinion it ruined black economic independence.When the Negro Leagues was in full stride they provided jobs for black ppl at all levels.Once integration came along all those jobs black ppl used to have disappeared like the Model T.Gil Dobie wrote:
Things have changed. In Owens day, there would have been many more death threats, many more school teachers saying he should be lynched, many more children saying Obama should be murdered and the news media would not have reported it as being unusual.
Today less people are involved in this type of behavior and this type of behavior is frowned upon by a larger number than in Owens day. There is less tolerance for this type of behavior, example Howard Cosell, Jimmy the Greek, Riley Cooper etc. Anybody public figure that says anything racists or acts racist loses their job or if they are a Democrat, get reprimanded.
Everything is now integrated, no separate schools, dorms, bathrooms, restaurants, Military units, etc. Back in Owens day, an African American football player for the University of Minnesota, had to sit out a game because they played a school that threatened to boycott the game. This would not happen today. There were no African American players in Major League Baseball in Owens day.
Things change, not as fast as we may want, but maybe as fast as humans can handle.
Klean didn't tell me anything I didn't already know. It's American History, something we can learn from.
