Big Sky got screwed

Post by **dbackjon** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 10:34 am

Big time

Gil Dobie · Post by **Gil Dobie** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 10:36 am

UND is the only screw job I see. Should have been in over EIU.

BDKJMU · Post by **BDKJMU** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 10:37 am

Still got 3 teams in, 1 seed. Should have been 4 teams. Last 2 teams out were ND and TU. I think ND should have gotten in over WIU..

Post by **kalm** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 10:43 am

BDKJMU wrote:Still got 3 teams in, 1 seed. Should have been 4 teams. Last 2 teams out were ND and TU. I think ND should have gotten in over WIU..

Should have been in over UNH and EIU. Better wins than both, tougher schedule than UNH.

WIU had a really tough schedule and 3 solid top 25 wins.

Brock Landers · Post by **Brock Landers** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 10:51 am

I'd say we drew the short stick, but this is what we deserve for losing to Cal Poly and Weebs at home

The 9-2 season that could of been

BDKJMU · Post by **BDKJMU** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 10:54 am

kalm wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:Still got 3 teams in, 1 seed. Should have been 4 teams. Last 2 teams out were ND and TU. I think ND should have gotten in over WIU..
Should have been in over UNH and EIU. Better wins than both, tougher schedule than UNH.

WIU had a really tough schedule and 3 solid top 25 wins.

Agree on the EIU part- would have put ND ahead of EIU...

Post by **dbackjon** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 12:22 pm

Portland State also deserved higher than a six seed

Mvemjsunpx · Post by **Mvemjsunpx** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 12:33 pm

dbackjon wrote:Portland State also deserved higher than a six seed

Maybe #5, but not top-4. The loss to NoCo pretty much sealed that.

Post by **dbackjon** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 1:51 pm

Mvemjsunpx wrote:
dbackjon wrote:Portland State also deserved higher than a six seed
Maybe #5, but not top-4. The loss to NoCo pretty much sealed that.

No FCS team has a bigger win than PSU.

Plus losing to a 6-5 UNC isn't a bad loss

Post by **AZGrizFan** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 1:55 pm

dbackjon wrote:
Mvemjsunpx wrote:
Maybe #5, but not top-4. The loss to NoCo pretty much sealed that.

No FCS team has a bigger win than PSU.

Plus losing to a 6-5 UNC isn't a bad loss

Wonder if ISU and NDSU will EVER play each other in the regular season?

JALMOND · Post by **JALMOND** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 2:19 pm

dbackjon wrote:Portland State also deserved higher than a six seed

Maybe the newbie in me, but I am fine with where we are. First round bye, home game for the second round. At the beginning of the year, if you would have told me that Portland State would even be in the playoffs, I would never have believed it. Also, I like that they separated the three. I think we all have a chance to do some damage.

Post by **kalm** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 2:26 pm

JALMOND wrote:
dbackjon wrote:Portland State also deserved higher than a six seed
Maybe the newbie in me, but I am fine with where we are. First round bye, home game for the second round. At the beginning of the year, if you would have told me that Portland State would even be in the playoffs, I would never have believed it. Also, I like that they separated the three. I think we all have a chance to do some damage.

Super tough draw for the Griz and Viks but both are playing well and have a shot to pull off a run.

SUU might have the easiest path with the two Southlands who are still a mystery.

Talking about easy, two of the last in, UNH and WIU get rewarded with Colgate (at home) and Dayton.

Mvemjsunpx · Post by **Mvemjsunpx** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 2:53 pm

dbackjon wrote:
Mvemjsunpx wrote:
Maybe #5, but not top-4. The loss to NoCo pretty much sealed that.

No FCS team has a bigger win than PSU.

Plus losing to a 6-5 UNC isn't a bad loss

NoCo only went 6-5 because their non-conference schedule was garbage. Remember that NAU, NoDak, & SUU completely destroyed NoCo (and Weber beat them convincingly in Greeley).

Definitely a seed-worthy resume, just not quite top-4 seed.

Post by **dbackjon** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 4:21 pm

You and apparently the committee are unaware how good Wazoo is

Mvemjsunpx · Post by **Mvemjsunpx** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 4:30 pm

dbackjon wrote:You and apparently the committee are unaware how good Wazoo is

It's still one game, & I'm skeptical PSU would win if they played again.

And you act like beating Wazzu makes the rest of the schedule irrelevant.

JohnStOnge · Post by **JohnStOnge** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:06 pm

SUU might have the easiest path with the two Southlands who are still a mystery.

I can see some truth in that but at the same time Sam Houston State has pretty much owned the Big Sky in recent years. Also I think Sam Houston State may very well have the highest pure talent level in the subdivision. I haven't even seen Southern Utah but i would still bet that if they are going to win they are going to have to beat a team that's got a higher talent level than they do. Not saying they can't do it and actually I'm HOPING they do it both because I don't want McNeese to have to play Sam Houston State again and because I just flat want to see them play a different team. But Sam Houston State really is loaded talent wise. When you put Keeler's "mercenary" personnel strategy together with being located in the obscenely talent rich vicinity Sam Houston State's located in you get a whole lot of pure talent for a FCS team.

Like if you compare Montana's opening round draw to Southern Utah's I HAVE seen South Dakota State a couple of times this year and I don't think they have anywhere close to the same pure talent level as Sam Houston State does. Sam Houston State is a way faster, more athletic team than South Dakota State is. Maybe not better. But more talented.

Southern Utah's administration should've stepped up and submitted a competitive bid for a home game. They're the Big Sky champiion, for Pete's sake.

JALMOND · Post by **JALMOND** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:14 pm

JohnStOnge wrote:
SUU might have the easiest path with the two Southlands who are still a mystery.
I can see some truth in that but at the same time Sam Houston State has pretty much owned the Big Sky in recent years. Also I think Sam Houston State may very well have the highest pure talent level in the subdivision. I haven't even seen Southern Utah but i would still bet that if they are going to win they are going to have to beat a team that's got a higher talent level than they do. Not saying they can't do it and actually I'm HOPING they do it both because I don't want McNeese to have to play Sam Houston State again and because I just flat want to see them play a different team. But Sam Houston State really is loaded talent wise. When you put Keeler's "mercenary" personnel strategy together with being located in the obscenely talent rich vicinity Sam Houston State's located in you get a whole lot of pure talent for a FCS team.

Southern Utah's administration should've stepped up and submitted a competitive bid for a home game. They're the Big Sky champiion, for Pete's sake.

I thought Southern Utah's defense was the best defense I've seen all year, and that includes Washington State. I don't know how SDSU hung 55 points on them. The T-Birds have some big studs on defense.

JALMOND · Post by **JALMOND** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:17 pm

Mvemjsunpx wrote:
dbackjon wrote:You and apparently the committee are unaware how good Wazoo is
It's still one game, & I'm skeptical PSU would win if they played again.

And you act like beating Wazzu makes the rest of the schedule irrelevant.

Considering that the last time a current Big Sky member beat Wazzu was in 1947, and that we had never beaten a Pac-8, 10, or 12 team ever, that in itself is why I would not want to play them again. I'm perfectly happy with taking the win the first game of the year and calling it good.

Post by **dbackjon** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:23 pm

Mvemjsunpx wrote:
dbackjon wrote:You and apparently the committee are unaware how good Wazoo is
It's still one game, & I'm skeptical PSU would win if they played again.

And you act like beating Wazzu makes the rest of the schedule irrelevant.

You can say that about a lot of teams. NAU would beat UC Davis and Montana now

JohnStOnge · Post by **JohnStOnge** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:24 pm

I thought Southern Utah's defense was the best defense I've seen all year, and that includes Washington State. I don't know how SDSU hung 55 points on them. The T-Birds have some big studs on defense.

I hope you're right because I want them to beat Sam Houston State but Sam Houston State's got WAY more talent on offense than South Dakota State does. So if South Dakota State put 55 points on them let's just hope they play a hell of a lot better game on defense than they did against South Dakota State.

Brock Landers · Post by **Brock Landers** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:27 pm

JohnStOnge wrote:
SUU might have the easiest path with the two Southlands who are still a mystery.
I can see some truth in that but at the same time Sam Houston State has pretty much owned the Big Sky in recent years. Also I think Sam Houston State may very well have the highest pure talent level in the subdivision. I haven't even seen Southern Utah but i would still bet that if they are going to win they are going to have to beat a team that's got a higher talent level than they do. Not saying they can't do it and actually I'm HOPING they do it both because I don't want McNeese to have to play Sam Houston State again and because I just flat want to see them play a different team. But Sam Houston State really is loaded talent wise. When you put Keeler's "mercenary" personnel strategy together with being located in the obscenely talent rich vicinity Sam Houston State's located in you get a whole lot of pure talent for a FCS team.

Like if you compare Montana's opening round draw to Southern Utah's I HAVE seen South Dakota State a couple of times this year and I don't think they have anywhere close to the same pure talent level as Sam Houston State does. Sam Houston State is a way faster, more athletic team than South Dakota State is. Maybe not better. But more talented.

Southern Utah's administration should've stepped up and submitted a competitive bid for a home game. They're the Big Sky champiion, for Pete's sake.

There's more to talent than speed. Just ask the Raiders. Or the NDSU teams that repeatedely handle SHSU

Mvemjsunpx · Post by **Mvemjsunpx** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:28 pm

dbackjon wrote:
Mvemjsunpx wrote:
It's still one game, & I'm skeptical PSU would win if they played again.

And you act like beating Wazzu makes the rest of the schedule irrelevant.

You can say that about a lot of teams. NAU would beat UC Davis and Montana now

OK, now I know you're just trolling.

Post by **Grizalltheway** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:54 pm

dbackjon wrote:
Mvemjsunpx wrote:
It's still one game, & I'm skeptical PSU would win if they played again.

And you act like beating Wazzu makes the rest of the schedule irrelevant.

You can say that about a lot of teams. NAU would beat UC Davis and Montana now

Gil Dobie · Post by **Gil Dobie** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:18 pm

JohnStOnge wrote:
SUU might have the easiest path with the two Southlands who are still a mystery.
I can see some truth in that but at the same time Sam Houston State has pretty much owned the Big Sky in recent years. Also I think Sam Houston State may very well have the highest pure talent level in the subdivision. I haven't even seen Southern Utah but i would still bet that if they are going to win they are going to have to beat a team that's got a higher talent level than they do. Not saying they can't do it and actually I'm HOPING they do it both because I don't want McNeese to have to play Sam Houston State again and because I just flat want to see them play a different team. But Sam Houston State really is loaded talent wise. When you put Keeler's "mercenary" personnel strategy together with being located in the obscenely talent rich vicinity Sam Houston State's located in you get a whole lot of pure talent for a FCS team.

Like if you compare Montana's opening round draw to Southern Utah's I HAVE seen South Dakota State a couple of times this year and I don't think they have anywhere close to the same pure talent level as Sam Houston State does. Sam Houston State is a way faster, more athletic team than South Dakota State is. Maybe not better. But more talented.

Southern Utah's administration should've stepped up and submitted a competitive bid for a home game. They're the Big Sky champiion, for Pete's sake.

There's no way a northern team can beat that southern speed.

Gil Dobie · Post by **Gil Dobie** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:20 pm

dbackjon wrote:
Mvemjsunpx wrote:
It's still one game, & I'm skeptical PSU would win if they played again.

And you act like beating Wazzu makes the rest of the schedule irrelevant.

You can say that about a lot of teams. NAU would beat UC Davis and Montana now

You're reaching Jon. Montana, with a healthy Gustafson, beats NAU.

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