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Chuck South vs Wofford thoughts

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Well, as expected nobody is giving the Bucs much of a chance of beating the Pups this Saturday but we do have a few positives coming off week one:

1. We won, they did not.(plays to the attitude of the next weeks practice)
2. We play them at home.
3. .........anybody got anything else.
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Depending on how strong/ready the Wofford D is, you might be able to keep up with them, but a team that allowed 30+ to NGU won't hold the Wofford offense down.

I'll still be rooting for the Bucs, but with limited expectations.
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on second thought...nevermind...nothing to see here, just another 3-8 football team :coffee:
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CSUBUCDAD wrote: 1. We won, they did not.(plays to the attitude of the next weeks practice)
They played a decent FBS school. You played NGU, the D2 whipping boy.
CSUBUCDAD wrote: 2. We play them at home.
I'll give you that. Buc Field is a hard place to play, though not for the usual reasons.
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Keep an eye on #32 Anthony Carden [LB] from Lexington High School. Enjoyed watching him play FB in HS and he plays LB at Wofford. He gives everything he has on every play. Just keep an eye on him - he is fun to watch even when he is beating your brains in.

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ToTheLeft wrote:Depending on how strong/ready the Wofford D is, you might be able to keep up with them, but a team that allowed 30+ to NGU won't hold the Wofford offense down.

I'll still be rooting for the Bucs, but with limited expectations.
Something to consider here is that Jamie Childers knows the Bucs system inside and out. Also, Willy Korn is one hell of a QB. Also, NG runs almost the identical offense as Wofford with the addition of a deadly play action passing game. They will win allot of games this year in DII I assure you that. Also, keep in mind that 14 of those 31 points were scored in the last 3 possessions they had with their 1st team O against our 2nd and 3rd deep D.

Honestly I look for a much much closer game than what everyone is saying Saturday. It will be our big test for sure.
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My beloved Bucs are playing our old nemesis Wofford. My thoughts:

The NGU vs CSU game wasn't nearly that close. It was 41-17 late, and CSU wanted to get a look at some freshmen. NGU got a couple late scores. And, NGU got 14 points off a 76 yard run, and a punt return, both of which the NGU players broke several tackles. Bad job by CSU tackling. Talked to some players after the game. They said they took NGU way too lightly, and the NGU staff obviously is familiar with CSU schemes b/c a lot of the NGU coaches came from CSU. So, nice job at NGU of improving, bad job of CSU coming out flat and under-estimating them.

On to Wofford....

CSU has never beaten Wofford. Came close (within 10 points) a couple times. In the late 90's and 2000 the CSU defense was actually able to handle that offense well, but just couldn't put up any points, and thus, turnovers hurt those teams bad. I believe it was 1999 that CSU only gave up 6 points to Wofford. Unfortunately, Wofford scored another 14 against the CSU offense via turnovers, lost 20-0. In 2000 CSU gave up 17 points I believe, with the CSU offense giving up 7 to Wofford via turnover. So, in the past the CSU defense has shown it can slow the Wofford offense, but has never been able to put up points. Now, CSU's offense appears to be the strength of the team.

To beat Wofford, CSU will need their offense to play like the CSU offense of 2005-2006, and the defense to play like the CSU defense of 1999-2000. I think they are capable, just gotta do it. But it'll be tough. Hopefully, it will be HOT AND HUMID at CSU on Saturday. We'll need every bit of help against Wofford.
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CSUBUCDAD wrote:
ToTheLeft wrote:Depending on how strong/ready the Wofford D is, you might be able to keep up with them, but a team that allowed 30+ to NGU won't hold the Wofford offense down.

I'll still be rooting for the Bucs, but with limited expectations.
Something to consider here is that Jamie Childers knows the Bucs system inside and out. Also, Willy Korn is one hell of a QB. Also, NG runs almost the identical offense as Wofford with the addition of a deadly play action passing game. They will win allot of games this year in DII I assure you that. Also, keep in mind that 14 of those 31 points were scored in the last 3 possessions they had with their 1st team O against our 2nd and 3rd deep D.

Honestly I look for a much much closer game than what everyone is saying Saturday. It will be our big test for sure.
CSU has been close to Wofford in the past. Like I said, in 1999 the CSU defense held Wofford to 6 points, but the Terriers scored twice on our offense. To beat Wofford, a team of equal or lesser talent must play absolutely mistake free. CSU has not done that yet. In 2000, the Bucs were very competitive, but Wofford scored two big plays that basically sealed the 24-10 win. CSU historically has had a knack of hanging tough, but giving up that crucial big play that always sealed their fate. In 2005, 2006 CSU had the ball bounce their way for a change, and had some good success.

They won't beat Wofford with the kind of tackling they showed vs NGU thought, thats for sure. 1st game jitters or just underestimating NGU, or just NGU RB's playing well, whatever it was, to slow Wofford a team must be disciplined and be able to tackle well.
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Re: Chuck South vs Wofford thoughts

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bucs90 wrote:My beloved Bucs are playing our old nemesis Wofford. My thoughts:

The NGU vs CSU game wasn't nearly that close. It was 41-17 late, and CSU wanted to get a look at some freshmen. NGU got a couple late scores. And, NGU got 14 points off a 76 yard run, and a punt return, both of which the NGU players broke several tackles. Bad job by CSU tackling. Talked to some players after the game. They said they took NGU way too lightly, and the NGU staff obviously is familiar with CSU schemes b/c a lot of the NGU coaches came from CSU. So, nice job at NGU of improving, bad job of CSU coming out flat and under-estimating them.

On to Wofford....

CSU has never beaten Wofford. Came close (within 10 points) a couple times. In the late 90's and 2000 the CSU defense was actually able to handle that offense well, but just couldn't put up any points, and thus, turnovers hurt those teams bad. I believe it was 1999 that CSU only gave up 6 points to Wofford. Unfortunately, Wofford scored another 14 against the CSU offense via turnovers, lost 20-0. In 2000 CSU gave up 17 points I believe, with the CSU offense giving up 7 to Wofford via turnover. So, in the past the CSU defense has shown it can slow the Wofford offense, but has never been able to put up points. Now, CSU's offense appears to be the strength of the team.

To beat Wofford, CSU will need their offense to play like the CSU offense of 2005-2006, and the defense to play like the CSU defense of 1999-2000. I think they are capable, just gotta do it. But it'll be tough. Hopefully, it will be HOT AND HUMID at CSU on Saturday. We'll need every bit of help against Wofford.
I understand your assessment, but Wofford's offense has changed immensely since those days....
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This is our best chance since 2005 to best Wofford. They will have some big plays as usual. Our offense just has to be better and protect the ball. Expect both teams to post 30+ points is a close game. Go Bucs!!!
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bigSfan89 wrote:This is our best chance since 2005 to best Wofford.
I agree with this statement and it might be CSU's best chance since the advent of football in Buc-ville. I'm picking CSU to win this one. The Bucs are a dangerous team this year.
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If this game is close, it could signal that Wofford will be closer to last year's 3-8 than its successful 2007 and 2008 teams.

To the Terrier fans, why no Kass last Saturday? MA has always been a two QB guy, but it seemed like it was all Allen last week.
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The Ankle-Biters win big if they can field a team and keep from injuring themselves further.

I'm not sure what the tally is for 2010 but I think they are down at least 5 or 6 guys.
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Congrats to Wofford, for a 13th straight time, they beat CSU after the Bucs put forth a tremendous effort. CSU put quite a scare into Wofford, leading midway through the 4th. With about 5:00 to play and down by 4, CSU stalled out on offense and had to punt. That was the ballgame.

Every year I played against Wofford, it was always the same. It wasn't that they were much bigger, stronger, faster than us. A few were, but we always thought we matched up very well with them physically. It was just that they are so damn good and disciplined. A lot of the games in this 13 game series, which reportedly ends now forever, were close into the 4th, and EVERY time Wofford found the ways to make the plays, year in year out, to pull away and take home wins in the 10 point range, and several in the 20+ point range.

Congrats Wofford, you guys are truly one of the toughest opponents CSU has ever faced.
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bucs90 wrote:Congrats to Wofford, for a 13th straight time, they beat CSU after the Bucs put forth a tremendous effort. CSU put quite a scare into Wofford, leading midway through the 4th. With about 5:00 to play and down by 4, CSU stalled out on offense and had to punt. That was the ballgame.

Every year I played against Wofford, it was always the same. It wasn't that they were much bigger, stronger, faster than us. A few were, but we always thought we matched up very well with them physically. It was just that they are so damn good and disciplined. A lot of the games in this 13 game series, which reportedly ends now forever, were close into the 4th, and EVERY time Wofford found the ways to make the plays, year in year out, to pull away and take home wins in the 10 point range, and several in the 20+ point range.

Congrats Wofford, you guys are truly one of the toughest opponents CSU has ever faced.
you should do well in the Big South :thumb:

I can't really comment on the game other than we played pretty sloppy (I didn't watch....dern cross country meets) :?
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youngterrier wrote:
bucs90 wrote:Congrats to Wofford, for a 13th straight time, they beat CSU after the Bucs put forth a tremendous effort. CSU put quite a scare into Wofford, leading midway through the 4th. With about 5:00 to play and down by 4, CSU stalled out on offense and had to punt. That was the ballgame.

Every year I played against Wofford, it was always the same. It wasn't that they were much bigger, stronger, faster than us. A few were, but we always thought we matched up very well with them physically. It was just that they are so damn good and disciplined. A lot of the games in this 13 game series, which reportedly ends now forever, were close into the 4th, and EVERY time Wofford found the ways to make the plays, year in year out, to pull away and take home wins in the 10 point range, and several in the 20+ point range.

Congrats Wofford, you guys are truly one of the toughest opponents CSU has ever faced.
you should do well in the Big South :thumb:

I can't really comment on the game other than we played pretty sloppy (I didn't watch....dern cross country meets) :?
I watched/listened to most of it. CSU was right with em' until the end and it was a hard fought game. CSU looks like they could have some life this year
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