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Dane fans are waiting patiently on word....

Around the December break, many of us were told that a flyover video and announcement would be coming shortly. Well, around 10 months ago...April 2009...Heery was working on the design and environment stage. The flyover was posted to a public site by the company that did the video, Max Wave media.

Fast forward to three months ago...and the video was re-posted, however it was 5 minutes longer than the previous posted video. However, a codec was needed to view it. Well folks, the day has come and the flyover is visible at vimeo.com.

It is interesting to watch both videos because the latest one specifically has local leaders involved at the State and City level. It has all walks of the University involved.

Folks...this will knock your effin socks off!!!!! I would be happy with half of what they initially put out there. What I like about the potential stadium is this:
  • it's expandable
    it's incorporate with the campus design in a spectacular fashion, with the fountains and the podium style walk-up platforms
    it gives much needed space for offices/facilities
    it will be devestatingly loud when finally complete
    I love the big fat "UALBANY" on the tower


While I think the real stadium will actually not live up to this video...anything close would be amazing. Here is how I see this playing out based on what was publicly mentioned (phases and modular build out)by the University about 6 months ago.

Phase 1 will likely be the whole side that includes the tower, with lighting.
Phase 2 will likely be an endzone and the visitor side bottom.
Phase 3 will be the last endzone with the landscaping and fountains
Phase 4 will be the office building and building connectors.

Down the road, you would likely get the visitor deck and the endzone decks...rounding up to about 25k seats, the new four corner scoreboards.
Personally if we can get through Phase 1-4...and we pack the place and highschools/locals use it for other purposes, you will see money come in from Alumni and sponsors to build out the rest.

Again...have a look...and I have no inside knowledge of when this would start or if this is even close to the final design. However, the fact that it was made 3 months ago and boasts local leaders is a VERY GOOD SIGN...and quite frankly, I would owe Dr. McElroy an apology.

http://vimeo.com/10987115" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And the original video: http://vimeo.com/6857030" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Welcome to Ford Field. They should put a bronze statue of the "bipper" out front. About FREAKIN TIME! I was losing patience. Hello CAA North!
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Looks great. That's a very smart expansion plan. Even in phase 1, you'll have a nice mini-bowl with every seat close to the field.

Good plan for U Albany. :thumb:
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Something...anything would be better then the current dump.

Simply amazing, now if only we had concrete proof that dirt will start moving soon. Video's are nice and I'd rather have a vid then no vid but I'm trying hard not to totally sell myself out to the hype.
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Some screen shots for those who are too lazy or can't get video at work.

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This is probably Phase I
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Great plan....I hope the follow through matches it...
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Ruler wrote:Hello CAA North!
I've been saying it for years. :thumb:
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We'll see. The finished product is certainly not an NEC type of stadium. But then again, who knows when or even if we'll get that far.
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Amen Danefan, Amen.

Though I will say this is the most detailed anything we have laid eyes on regarding the stadium.

That said, I want to see an RFP before I will believe anything.
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It's about time ! long over due and as another poster coined it- "FORD FIELD" Good Luck. :thumb:
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Looks good. Will 4 stadium lights be enough?
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SDHornet wrote:Looks good. Will 4 stadium lights be enough?
UMass just installed HDTV quality lights and have just 4 poles...

Technology is good. ..the Danes are on the right track. ..
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I hope at least half of this comes to fruition for all the Dane fans/alumni.
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No disrespect to the Danes intended, but is there adequate demand for UA football to fill up the proposed stadium? It's a great looking design and well thought out for expansion. :thumb:
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Thats a beautiful lookin stadium. What would the capacity be the new stadium?? And building a stadium like that defintely would mean they have thoughts of FBS football. Don't think they'd build that big not to have a shot at playing bigger regional schools like Syracuse, Rutgers, Pitt, Army & even Buffalo.
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I'm with all the UA guys. Great plans, but until shovels hit the ground, I won't get too excited.

At a minimum this is the type of plans that should help raise money and excite the fan base. So I have to ask, why hasn't this been formally released by the athletic department of university?

Until they set hard milestones and a timeline, I have a hard time belilving this will happen in the next 10 years, but hopefully they prove me and some of the pessimistic Dane fans wrong.

Also, I think these plans are a little grandiose. Don't get me wrong, that's a good thing, becasue even a scaled down version would be a top notch FCS facility. If I were to guess, I'd expect them to build the Press box and 2-level stands on that side first. I think they also build the End Zone field house and a single level stands on the away side. It would likely look very similar to LaValle with the added fieldhouse at one end.

Good luck UA fans :thumb:
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As far as attendance, I think they high watermark with this facility right off the bat would be something like 5K people give or take a little. This is a facility that will serve us well now and into the future. Regionally there is no competition for football in the area, if they put a winning product on the field like Ford seems to do every single year and with some NCAA appearances (should we be so lucky) I can see having 5-7k regularly at games but that's just me.

I've been told that the RFQ for an architectural/engineering firm to design the facilities and oversee their construction will go public this afternoon, as soon as I find it I'll post it.
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I actually think the high-water mark for attendance will be 8 K if we had that capacity. When the weather is good...Albany gets around 4500-5000 fans. It is only in the dregs of deep fall winter...with horrid weather and a East-West layout that brings in a nasty wind do we see the attendance go down.

New stadium...what will likely be very marketable opponents (I know that Montana, UMass, Delaware and UNH have all expressed an interest of "opening" our stadium over the years)...local high school kids who will be given tickets...this thing will be very near the 7000-8000 range.

If indeed the RFQ goes public, as was told to Bos (by high sources), then this means this is a reality. An RFP and an RFQ are very different. Both mean that the client (Albany) is very serious, however an RFQ means the client knows exactly what it wants.
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Dane96 wrote:I actually think the high-water mark for attendance will be 8 K if we had that capacity. When the weather is good...Albany gets around 4500-5000 fans. It is only in the dregs of deep fall winter...with horrid weather and a East-West layout that brings in a nasty wind do we see the attendance go down.

New stadium...what will likely be very marketable opponents (I know that Montana, UMass, Delaware and UNH have all expressed an interest of "opening" our stadium over the years)...local high school kids who will be given tickets...this thing will be very near the 7000-8000 range.

If indeed the RFQ goes public, as was told to Bos (by high sources), then this means this is a reality. An RFP and an RFQ are very different. Both mean that the client (Albany) is very serious, however an RFQ means the client knows exactly what it wants.
RFQ is posted...up on the UA board. I don't work in this realm so I have no idea what to do with it or what it means.
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Dane96 wrote:I actually think the high-water mark for attendance will be 8 K if we had that capacity. When the weather is good...Albany gets around 4500-5000 fans. It is only in the dregs of deep fall winter...
I don't want to say this the wrong way, but what the hell else is there to do in Albany on Saturdays in Sept-Nov? I'm sure there are plenty of outdoor activities, but I'm talking about events. It's not like Syracuse is stealing your thunder. UA is a state school with over 13,000 undergrads. There are 1,000,000 people in the greater Albany area. Surely you guys should be able to draw better.
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bosiydid wrote: RFQ is posted...up on the UA board. I don't work in this realm so I have no idea what to do with it or what it means.
Post the link here. I used to be a construction contracting officer for the Air Force four years ago. I might be able to provide a quick summary of what I see.

Generally, you'll have a set of drawings from an A/E firm, a list of specifications, a schedule, among other things. You should be able to learn quite a bit about the project from a detailed RFQ.
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Dane96 wrote:I actually think the high-water mark for attendance will be 8 K if we had that capacity. When the weather is good...Albany gets around 4500-5000 fans. It is only in the dregs of deep fall winter...
I don't want to say this the wrong way, but what the hell else is there to do in Albany on Saturdays in Sept-Nov? I'm sure there are plenty of outdoor activities, but I'm talking about events. It's not like Syracuse is stealing your thunder. UA is a state school with over 13,000 undergrads. There are 1,000,000 people in the greater Albany area. Surely you guys should be able to draw better.
It ain't rocket science. Just win, baby.

I doubt many people thought they could ever get 110,000 to a game in State College, PA a hundred years ago. Talk about the middle of nowhere.
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Dane96 wrote:I actually think the high-water mark for attendance will be 8 K if we had that capacity. When the weather is good...Albany gets around 4500-5000 fans. It is only in the dregs of deep fall winter...
I don't want to say this the wrong way, but what the hell else is there to do in Albany on Saturdays in Sept-Nov? I'm sure there are plenty of outdoor activities, but I'm talking about events. It's not like Syracuse is stealing your thunder. UA is a state school with over 13,000 undergrads. There are 1,000,000 people in the greater Albany area. Surely you guys should be able to draw better.
No bullshit excuses, this is real, but if you get up there before we demolish that thing...you would understand. Even when the weather is good...you have an issue. First, people want to enjoy the outdoors PRIOR to the nasty winters. So they look to do stuff. Second, unless it is a solid team...we are not getting 7000 for the St. Francis' of the world. I said 4500-5000...when in truth, we have gotten closer to 6k or so in a shithole. The stadium (loose word) is pointed North to South. You get prevailing Westerlies into the Capital District to form an effect called the "Hudson Weather Dip Drip", basically the air just sits in the valley because of the mountains that surround the area. After Oct...(sometimes mid-October) it just gets plain nasty and cold...and I am talking REEEEEALLYYYY cold. It isnt the cold air...it is the wind. It is also the reason people laugh at the school's master architect because the design of the school creates "air tunnels" (think a jet engine). Some say the design was meant for Arizona to get the winds going in the heat.

In any event, you have that...plus you add in horrendous wooden bleachers (slats) that sit 100 feet from the field...and you watch the game through a fence from across a road.

So, unless it is a big team (usually its not) or a warm day...your attendence is going to suffer. Believe me...you will see a huge difference with the new facility.
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93henfan wrote:
bosiydid wrote: RFQ is posted...up on the UA board. I don't work in this realm so I have no idea what to do with it or what it means.
Post the link here. I used to be a construction contracting officer for the Air Force four years ago. I might be able to provide a quick summary of what I see.

Generally, you'll have a set of drawings from an A/E firm, a list of specifications, a schedule, among other things. You should be able to learn quite a bit about the project from a detailed RFQ.
Yep...trying to get the hands on the RFQ now. All that is listed is basic shit, we need the detail of what is being bid on. My guess is that unless you are an established firm, they wont give you a document (those 4 things weed out the bullshitters).

I am in-house counsel for a manufacturer/engineering firm...so if anyone can get their hands on the RFQ, I can break it down as well.
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Dane96 wrote:No bullshit excuses... The stadium (loose word) is pointed North to South. You get prevailing Westerlies into the Capital District to form an effect called the "Hudson Weather Dip Drip", basically the air just sits in the valley because of the mountains that surround the area. After Oct...(sometimes mid-October) it just gets plain nasty and cold...and I am talking REEEEEALLYYYY cold. It isnt the cold air...it is the wind.
Sounds like BS excuses. ;)

Montana has no problem drawing fans in really cold weather. Minnesota just moved to an outdoor stadium, I'm guessing it's pretty cold there. Michigan, Ohio State and Penn State all can't build their stadiums big enough in weather that has to be ever bit as cold as Albany. It's not like you're asking people from Miami to come up and sit in your stadium to watch football. I've never lived in Albany, but I'd think the people there would be used to the temperatures and conditions there. Are you telling me that people just hole up and hibernate?
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