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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:35 pm Post subject: Reply with quote
Senior Reports has listed a minimum of 20 DI's stepping down. Not sure if your source is including them.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:23 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Edit/Delete this post
Nope 3 are dropping down. WSSU to D-II, Centenary, New Orleans to D-III.

Only in your wet dream would 20 schools drop from D-I.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:46 am Post subject: Reply with quote
Since March, students at three California universities — Sacramento State, Long Beach State and Cal State Fullerton — have also voted down fee increases to help pay for athletics.-NYTIMES

We've already seen 3, and the depression continues, state budgets keep getting tighter, and students all over the country are voting down fee increases.

No need to be offensive, but then you know no better.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:58 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Edit/Delete this post
D-II board head told me he took words of the senior report and put them as fact and it made him look like a fool because it was way off. He refuses to look at them now.

Stealth I'll bet you that the Cal schools you posted won't drop to D-II. Here's the bet. You don't post on here again until one of them drops. As soon as one drops. I'll never post again. Or option 2. You have an avatar of "I chose Division II" or the NCAA is awesome or something until one drops. When one does(not gonna happen) I'll put NAIA owns the NCAA as mine or something to that effect.

You sure backed off your 20 that were dropping to D-II this year fast. More proof you don't know anything about the NCAA.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:48 am Post subject: Reply with quote Edit/Delete this post
stealth wrote:
Please, I even cited senior reports as the source of that information. (research methods 101) Don't attribute that to me.

And I posted a portion of a New York Times article that showed that small DI's athletic departments are reassessing their positions, realizing DI is not all its cracked up to be, is very expensive, and students aren't willing to support it anymore. And given the evidence last year, athletic department dropping football at every NCAA level (did any NAIA members drop football) and the reclassification of at least three DI members, I think its quite possible that some addition DI members are discussing if DII, DIII or the NAIA would be a better place for them.

What do I care if a minor conference DI drops to DII? Frankly, I don't know why anyone would want to be NCAA Division ugly stepchild.

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First off you are a hypocrite because I found out that you work(ed) and or went to a NCAA D-I school. Also you refuse to take me up on my challenge. Put your money where your mouth is. Who said anything about any D-I conference dropping to D-II. That's as dumb as your hanging on the senior report for the "minimum of 20 schools dropping to D-II" Why would a NAIA school drop football? most of them move to D-II you only have 86 left. While D-II will have 159 (includes the provisionals) The NAIA maxes at 24 schollys and doesn't have to fund any. A D-I FBS has to fund at least 77 of the 85 (0 have dropped by the way) FCS has to fund 50 of their 63 except fot the PFL which is non scholly (10 schools and the Patriot which is grant aide). They have had schools drop. Proving that in a crisis that most schools will drop football over reclassifying. UNO and Centenary were dead after Katrina that killed them plus Centenary with only 1000 students never belonged. WSSU didn't research the move enough. NJIT and Savannah St. could have problems but have said nothing about dropping from D-I but if any others left it would probably be them.

Since 1990 only 10 schools have dropped from D-I(Hardin-Simmons, Augusta St., US International, Brooklyn, NE Illinois, Morris Brown, Birmingham-Southern, WSSU, Centenary, New Orleans. how many have left the NAIA? Since 2000 40 schools have left the NAIA for D-II( 38 ) and D-I(2). There are others that have went to D-III or dropped sports all together. I did not count Birmingham So. in the 40 since they are D-III

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:36 am Post subject: Reply with quote
HA...You're frothing a bit on the side of your mouth.

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First off you are a hypocrite because I found out that you work(ed) and or went to a NCAA D-I school.


Which is it I worked or went? Since you found out what is it? What's your source? Please cite. Is it a website or a message board? Maybe a little birdy.

Let me correct, "minor conference DI" add member. I thought that was implied.

As for Senior Reports, he's a DII advocate, hardly a source I would rely on, but he does email AD's directly for answers, as opposed to you who get all your information from D2football forum, do you want to cite wikipedia as well. Smile

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Since 1990 only 10 schools have dropped from D-I(Hardin-Simmons, Augusta St., US International, Brooklyn, NE Illinois, Morris Brown, Birmingham-Southern, WSSU, Centenary, New Orleans. how many have left the NAIA? Since 2000 40 schools have left the NAIA for D-II( 38 ) and D-I(2). There are others that have went to D-III or dropped sports all together. I did not count Birmingham So. in the 40 since they are D-III


Seriously, you aren't even comparing apples to apples here. Nor did I say anything about the likelihood DI's classifying to NAIA. But the added former DI's in DII makes for a significantly in hospitable environment for smaller private schools.

I was asking a question about football? I don't believe any NAIA football members are contemplating dropping the sport, infact, I don't believe many members drop a sport because of the depression. Why because they have the ability to fund the sport as they feel appropriate for that institution. As opposed to the NCAA who are constantly dropping sports because they are forced to maintain x, y and z.

FSA, You're way off the deep end. Take a step back, regain some composure.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 1:56 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Edit/Delete this post
why if post something like the senior report if you don't believe in it. You posted something suggesting a minimum of 20 were leaving D-I. Probably because you hoped I wouldn't find out that that guy is full of it. You know you're affiliated with a D-I school. I won't reveal my source unless they want to be revealed. Those sources you speak of must be the ones you use. I use NCAA.org or google search for press releases from the school moving itself. The schools that I posted that left are actual schools that have left these are facts. I've been tracking conf./div. movement for a long time. Go ahead and spin things the way you want. No FBS school has dropped football. We're the same and the FBS does it with 85 schollys to the NAIA's 0-24. The reason the NCAA has rules for minimum sports is so a school like Life that plays 3 sports can just pop into the NCAA.

You are the one frothing, wondering how the hell did that guy find out about me and NCAA D-I. I expose people all the time. You're just another one exposed.

PS remember last year, you said no way Cedarville would leave for D-II, after I posted that they were. The next day, I copy and pasted the PRESS RELEASE of Cedarville announcing they would be moving to D-II.

so how many times do you want me to prove you wrong this year?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:04 pm Post subject: Reply with quote
One, I don't work for a DI school. You won't reveal your sources because you don't have any. I don't work for a DI school. I don't work for a school at all. Thus you are a fraud.

2 my coaching sources at Cedarville have both left or announced retirement since that announcement. Thus I wasn't the only one surprised. Nor did I know that Cedarville got a new president. My guess is many faithful aren't all that excited about the move.

The more you post the more pathetic you become. You track this for years? I follow NAIA goings on, and I think that's pretty pathetic, you have a problem. Get a life dude.

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I have been lurking here for quite some time but how does an ad hominem attack justify or support your arguments?

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Yeah maybe you don't anymore but you did. My source is legit, he's reading all of this. I can have whatever hobby I want. You admit to following the NAIA goings on which is lesser than the NCAA so does that make you more pathetic? I hang out with my wife and daughter, I play flag football and fantasy football too but that has nothing to do with NAIA schools moving to the NCAA like this thread. If this thread was about flag football I'd talk about that. If this thread was about the NFL I'd talk about that. Your hobby is talking about some sex scandal over and over on here and on the D-II board. F'n LAME, just like you. How much of a loser are you you have to comment on every post I ever make on here with some BS comment, quit following me around. You are a coward who hides behind his computer. You're are scared to accept any of my challenges, you post some nonsense about 20 schools dropping D-I and then say its not me don't quote me. Why post it if you don't believe in it?

Little tidbit for ya. When you didn't deny me saying you were employed and or went to a NCAA D-I school instead of saying no, asking who did you talk to, then coming back 2 post later to say no over and over is more proof of guilt on your part.

Makes more sense now you thought you would be stealth like trashing a place where you were(D-I school) as long as no one could expose you. Whoops.

You should try dating. Get out of the house and don't worry about me or sex scandals or who's leaving for D-II. I don't go to your thread about who's the top NAIA school or whatever and bash it and turn it into a thread about them leaving for the NCAA.

don't you know the first thing about a verbal source. You never release the source unless they say its okay. If you do without permission they will stop giving you info. You ever watch ESPN? Chris Mortensen and Adam Scheffter never say who their source is. If they did, no one would give them info anymore. You have plenty of people who don't like you and are willing to rat you out.

[dgreco]

I had to register and post because it was getting out of hand

[dbackjon]

LOL...

[Fresno St. Alum]

it like if I got in an argument with Dback about the Big Sky and my only comeback is you're gay. That's stealth.

[Rob Iola]

link?

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http://basketball.victorysportsnetwork. ... c&start=90

[S F State Gaters]

wow that was a conversation and a half. NAIA. i just don't know.