#4 MSU at #3 EWU Game Thread

[Grizalltheway]

There are more people in the BATHROOMS at Wa/Griz at any given moment than in the entire shithole you guys call a stadium...I wouldn't brag about selling out that piss poor excuse for a high school field.

There are 10k + in the bathrooms at WA-Griz during your games? That is impressive.

Point taken on the stadium, but we already knew that. It could definitely be worse. We could NOT be selling it out.

Funny how these threads always devolve into attendance and facilities smack. I guess when that's all you've got to cling on to, though, it makes sense.


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Nice try, but it was EWoo's favorite son Black Falco who brought up attendance in this thread.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

im listening genius. And its damn near silent when msu makes a play. like i said cut the crap you bitter griz fanboy. ANOTHER SELLOUT BTW.

There are more people in the BATHROOMS at Wa/Griz at any given moment than in the entire shithole you guys call a stadium...I wouldn't brag about selling out that piss poor excuse for a high school field.

I call BS. There are WAY more than 10k Griz fans who are full of shit at any given moment.

[Robsnotes4u]

And the 'scats COULD stop EWU, they just CHOSE not too....eight straight times they chose not to...EWU's punter could have come to the game in street clothes. How **** embarrassing is THAT?

What's the matter, Rob? 'scat got your tongue?

And, for the record, do you know, per chance, how many times the EWU punter took the field against the horribly overmatched Grizzlies? (hint: it's more than ZERO).

They got rolled. I am not afraid or ashamed to admit it But if we really need to go head to head. Oh and by the way the Eagles gave up against you after leading by 25 after three. They learned something, do not let up on the gas.


Lost to NAU 34-16...........Cats won 36-7. Big ouch! admit you got your asses kicked
Both lost to EWU
UND both won
Uc Davis both won

Summarize, both teams lost to EWU and the cats crushed the team that crushed you. Griz have two loses in conference and the Cats only one.

You can now start the same excuses for losing to NAU, or but the Cats lost to SFA
Yes SFA would put up over 700 yards against your passing D. Being Adams threw for 457 yards and 6 tds against the Griz and only 300 yards and 4 tds against the cats.

Neither the cats nor Griz have anything to brag about against EWU. But the NAU game shows the whole picture.



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[Grizalltheway]

What's the matter, Rob? 'scat got your tongue?

And, for the record, do you know, per chance, how many times the EWU punter took the field against the horribly overmatched Grizzlies? (hint: it's more than ZERO).

They got rolled. I am not afraid or ashamed to admit it But if we really need to go head to head. Oh and by the way the Eagles gave up against you after leading by 25 after three. They learned something, do not let up on the gas.


Lost to NAU 34-16...........Cats won 36-7. Big ouch! admit you got your asses kicked
Both lost to EWU
UND both won
Uc Davis both won

Summarize, both teams lost to EWU and the cats crushed the team that crushed you. Griz have two loses in conference and the Cats only one.

You can now start the same excuses for losing to NAU, or but the Cats lost to SFA
Yes SFA would put up over 700 yards against your passing D. Being Adams threw for 457 yards and 6 tds against the Griz and only 300 yards and 4 tds against the cats.

Neither the cats nor Griz have anything to brag about against EWU. But the NAU game shows the whole picture.



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WTF? No, SFA would not put up 700 passing yards against the Griz. You're completely delusional if you actually believe that.

And one game out of the 10 each have played shows the whole picture? WTF are you talking about?

[Robsnotes4u]

They got rolled. I am not afraid or ashamed to admit it But if we really need to go head to head. Oh and by the way the Eagles gave up against you after leading by 25 after three. They learned something, do not let up on the gas.


Lost to NAU 34-16...........Cats won 36-7. Big ouch! admit you got your asses kicked
Both lost to EWU
UND both won
Uc Davis both won

Summarize, both teams lost to EWU and the cats crushed the team that crushed you. Griz have two loses in conference and the Cats only one.

You can now start the same excuses for losing to NAU, or but the Cats lost to SFA
Yes SFA would put up over 700 yards against your passing D. Being Adams threw for 457 yards and 6 tds against the Griz and only 300 yards and 4 tds against the cats.

Neither the cats nor Griz have anything to brag about against EWU. But the NAU game shows the whole picture.



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WTF? No, SFA would not put up 700 passing yards against the Griz. You're completely delusional if you actually believe that.

And one game out of the 10 each have played shows the whole picture? WTF are you talking about?

Good, that clears up the SFA loss thank you.


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[AZGrizFan]

What's the matter, Rob? 'scat got your tongue?

And, for the record, do you know, per chance, how many times the EWU punter took the field against the horribly overmatched Grizzlies? (hint: it's more than ZERO).

They got rolled. I am not afraid or ashamed to admit it But if we really need to go head to head. Oh and by the way the Eagles gave up against you after leading by 25 after three. They learned something, do not let up on the gas.


Lost to NAU 34-16...........Cats won 36-7. Big ouch! admit you got your asses kicked
Both lost to EWU
UND both won
Uc Davis both won

Summarize, both teams lost to EWU and the cats crushed the team that crushed you. Griz have two loses in conference and the Cats only one.

You can now start the same excuses for losing to NAU, or but the Cats lost to SFA
Yes SFA would put up over 700 yards against your passing D. Being Adams threw for 457 yards and 6 tds against the Griz and only 300 yards and 4 tds against the cats.

Neither the cats nor Griz have anything to brag about against EWU. But the NAU game shows the whole picture.



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Sweet Jesus, getting you to admit you're wrong is more difficult than getting my wife to admit it. I've already proven the fallacy incorrect that the Eagles "let off the gas"...in fact, AFTER they went up 42-17 their ratio of pass to run actually went UP. They just didn't execute. Against the 'scats, on the other hand, it was a fucking cakewalk all day long.

Adams only played a little over 3 quarters against the 'scats.


Oh, and the answer is SIX.

[kalm]

They got rolled. I am not afraid or ashamed to admit it But if we really need to go head to head. Oh and by the way the Eagles gave up against you after leading by 25 after three. They learned something, do not let up on the gas.


Lost to NAU 34-16...........Cats won 36-7. Big ouch! admit you got your asses kicked
Both lost to EWU
UND both won
Uc Davis both won

Summarize, both teams lost to EWU and the cats crushed the team that crushed you. Griz have two loses in conference and the Cats only one.

You can now start the same excuses for losing to NAU, or but the Cats lost to SFA
Yes SFA would put up over 700 yards against your passing D. Being Adams threw for 457 yards and 6 tds against the Griz and only 300 yards and 4 tds against the cats.

Neither the cats nor Griz have anything to brag about against EWU. But the NAU game shows the whole picture.



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Sweet Jesus, getting you to admit you're wrong is more difficult than getting my wife to admit it. I've already proven the fallacy incorrect that the Eagles "let off the gas"...in fact, AFTER they went up 42-17 their ratio of pass to run actually went UP. They just didn't execute. Against the 'scats, on the other hand, it was a fucking cakewalk all day long.

Not really.

CHENEY, Wash. — Perhaps Eastern doesn’t know how to dial things down anymore. And doesn’t want to.

Instead, the Eagles dialed it up all afternoon against Montana State, connecting on some of the biggest plays of the season Saturday in a 54-29 rout of the Bobcats at Roos Field.

When it was over, coach Beau Baldwin talked about his players “having the guts to win games – we’re not going to manage them.

“We don’t talk about making mistakes, we talk about letting ’er rip,” said Baldwin after the Eagles celebrated the school’s 500th football win in extraordinary fashion.

At almost every potential turning point in a game that probably decided the Big Sky Conference championship, the third-ranked Eagles refused to play it safe:

On fourth-and-goal at the MSU 1 late in the first quarter, the Eagles disdained the run up the middle. Instead, quarterback Vernon Adams rolled right, paused and fired a touchdown pass to Jake Withnell.

Facing third-and-2 at midfield on the opening drive of the second half, Baldwin called for the big play, and Adams delivered a 44-yard strike over the top to Cory Mitchell.

Leading 40-29 and facing third-and-8 from Eagles’ 32-yard line early in the fourth quarter, Baldwin declined to go to the short game; instead the Eagles connected on the decisive play of the game, Adams’ 76-yard strike to Shaquille Hill in single coverage.

That boldness was born two weeks ago in Missoula, when the Eagles nearly blew a 25-point fourth-quarter lead, partly because of conservative play-calling. “I was mad at myself because of the way I coached at Montana,” Baldwin said.

“It ends up being an attitude that we’re going to go for it,” Baldwin said.


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[uofmman1122]

Sweet Jesus, getting you to admit you're wrong is more difficult than getting my wife to admit it. I've already proven the fallacy incorrect that the Eagles "let off the gas"...in fact, AFTER they went up 42-17 their ratio of pass to run actually went UP. They just didn't execute. Against the 'scats, on the other hand, it was a fucking cakewalk all day long.

Not really.

CHENEY, Wash. — Perhaps Eastern doesn’t know how to dial things down anymore. And doesn’t want to.

Instead, the Eagles dialed it up all afternoon against Montana State, connecting on some of the biggest plays of the season Saturday in a 54-29 rout of the Bobcats at Roos Field.

When it was over, coach Beau Baldwin talked about his players “having the guts to win games – we’re not going to manage them.

“We don’t talk about making mistakes, we talk about letting ’er rip,” said Baldwin after the Eagles celebrated the school’s 500th football win in extraordinary fashion.

At almost every potential turning point in a game that probably decided the Big Sky Conference championship, the third-ranked Eagles refused to play it safe:

On fourth-and-goal at the MSU 1 late in the first quarter, the Eagles disdained the run up the middle. Instead, quarterback Vernon Adams rolled right, paused and fired a touchdown pass to Jake Withnell.

Facing third-and-2 at midfield on the opening drive of the second half, Baldwin called for the big play, and Adams delivered a 44-yard strike over the top to Cory Mitchell.

Leading 40-29 and facing third-and-8 from Eagles’ 32-yard line early in the fourth quarter, Baldwin declined to go to the short game; instead the Eagles connected on the decisive play of the game, Adams’ 76-yard strike to Shaquille Hill in single coverage.

That boldness was born two weeks ago in Missoula, when the Eagles nearly blew a 25-point fourth-quarter lead, partly because of conservative play-calling. “I was mad at myself because of the way I coached at Montana,” Baldwin said.

“It ends up being an attitude that we’re going to go for it,” Baldwin said.


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Of course he'd say that.

[kalm]

Not really.

CHENEY, Wash. — Perhaps Eastern doesn’t know how to dial things down anymore. And doesn’t want to.

Instead, the Eagles dialed it up all afternoon against Montana State, connecting on some of the biggest plays of the season Saturday in a 54-29 rout of the Bobcats at Roos Field.

When it was over, coach Beau Baldwin talked about his players “having the guts to win games – we’re not going to manage them.

“We don’t talk about making mistakes, we talk about letting ’er rip,” said Baldwin after the Eagles celebrated the school’s 500th football win in extraordinary fashion.

At almost every potential turning point in a game that probably decided the Big Sky Conference championship, the third-ranked Eagles refused to play it safe:

On fourth-and-goal at the MSU 1 late in the first quarter, the Eagles disdained the run up the middle. Instead, quarterback Vernon Adams rolled right, paused and fired a touchdown pass to Jake Withnell.

Facing third-and-2 at midfield on the opening drive of the second half, Baldwin called for the big play, and Adams delivered a 44-yard strike over the top to Cory Mitchell.

Leading 40-29 and facing third-and-8 from Eagles’ 32-yard line early in the fourth quarter, Baldwin declined to go to the short game; instead the Eagles connected on the decisive play of the game, Adams’ 76-yard strike to Shaquille Hill in single coverage.

That boldness was born two weeks ago in Missoula, when the Eagles nearly blew a 25-point fourth-quarter lead, partly because of conservative play-calling. “I was mad at myself because of the way I coached at Montana,” Baldwin said.

“It ends up being an attitude that we’re going to go for it,” Baldwin said.


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Of course he'd say that.

First series three and out was about the 10:00 Mark after three straight runs. True we went back to the pass after that but was mostly dink and dunk possession routes insteaf continuing to take a few shots. We also slowed the temp WAY down. Remember VA checking the play clock with a ton of time left?

Baldwin hasn't changed his tune - he admitted all this in the coaches show after that game and took personal responsibility.

But you think he's being disingenuous?

[uofmman1122]

Of course he'd say that.

First series three and out was about the 10:00 Mark after three straight runs. True we went back to the pass after that but was mostly dink and dunk possession routes insteaf continuing to take a few shots. We also slowed the temp WAY down. Remember VA checking the play clock with a ton of time left?

Baldwin hasn't changed his tune - he admitted all this in the coaches show after that game and took personal responsibility.

But you think he's being disingenuous?

I think he, and many eagles fans, don't want to give montana any credit and admit they were scared.

Sure, it's a loss for us either way, and there's no such thing as a moral victory, but the Griz were the reason the Griz came back.

[kalm]

First series three and out was about the 10:00 Mark after three straight runs. True we went back to the pass after that but was mostly dink and dunk possession routes insteaf continuing to take a few shots. We also slowed the temp WAY down. Remember VA checking the play clock with a ton of time left?

Baldwin hasn't changed his tune - he admitted all this in the coaches show after that game and took personal responsibility.

But you think he's being disingenuous?

I think he, and many eagles fans, don't want to give montana any credit and admit they were scared.

Sure, it's a loss for us either way, and there's no such thing as a moral victory, but the Griz were the reason the Griz came back.

I was nervous the entire game and expected a bit of a comeback. Not trying to take anything away from the Griz.

[EWURanger]

First series three and out was about the 10:00 Mark after three straight runs. True we went back to the pass after that but was mostly dink and dunk possession routes insteaf continuing to take a few shots. We also slowed the temp WAY down. Remember VA checking the play clock with a ton of time left?

Baldwin hasn't changed his tune - he admitted all this in the coaches show after that game and took personal responsibility.

But you think he's being disingenuous?

I think he, and many eagles fans, don't want to give montana any credit and admit they were scared.

Sure, it's a loss for us either way, and there's no such thing as a moral victory, but the Griz were the reason the Griz came back.

Not sure exactly what you're getting at. Sure, I was concerned, as I'm sure a lot of other folks were. That said, do you have any idea how many "moral victories" Eastern has against Montana? A ton of them. And they still all count as losses.

Seriously, though, I think if you take these two teams and played 10 games, Eastern would win 8/10 of them this year.


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[Screamin_Eagle174]

Montana deserves credit for not giving up and taking advantage of Baldwin and co's conservative play calling. He felt he could coast, and he almost paid for it. But for UM fans to think that EWU was still trying to light up the scoreboard in the 4th quarter like we were for the first three and just couldn't... well,

Two weeks ago, Eastern built a 42-17 lead over Montana in Missoula only to see the Grizzlies come storming back before falling 42-37. Saturday, EWU kept the pedal to the metal.

“I was mad at myself at Montana. I didn’t like how I coached in the fourth quarter, and I vowed that I wouldn’t do it again,” EWU head coach Beau Baldwin said. “We didn’t do it at Idaho State, and we didn’t do that today. We still looked at the clock late and burned some time, but I was not going to change my play calling. I wanted to learn from Montana. It is just an attitude. It ends up being an attitude for our guys that we are going to keep the pedal to the metal.”

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Baldwin isn't the type of coach who will feed you BS or fail to give credit where it's due in order to save face. He's about as genuine and down to earth as they get.

[AZGrizFan]

Of course he'd say that.

First series three and out was about the 10:00 Mark after three straight runs. True we went back to the pass after that but was mostly dink and dunk possession routes insteaf continuing to take a few shots. We also slowed the temp WAY down. Remember VA checking the play clock with a ton of time left?

Baldwin hasn't changed his tune - he admitted all this in the coaches show after that game and took personal responsibility.

But you think he's being disingenuous?

Blatant revisionist history attempt! You fucking EWU guys are pathetic . I just rewatched the entire 4th quarter of the game. After the EWU TD to go up 42-17, the rest of the game went like this:

Griz: long pass incomplete, short pass complete, run, punt
EWU: (14:10) run (EWU dead ball penalty), run, screen pass on 3rd & 23 (7 yards), punt
Griz: (12:02): pass (scramble), pass (24 yards), pass (4 yards), run (-1), pass (9), pass (8, EWU sent 6), pass (12), pass (incomplete), pass (incomplete, EWU sent 6), pass (incomplete, sent 3), pass (7, TD, sent 3).
EWU: (9:27): run (3), pass (scramble, -3), pass (EWU false start), pass (7 yards, had to hit the outlet because of coverage), punt
Griz (8:21): pass (scramble, 9), pass (scramble, 4, EWU blitzed), pass (48 yard TD, EWU sent LB blitz)
EWU (7:33): pass (9), pass (7 yards, Adams scrambling from huge pressure), pass (incomplete to Kupp, 7 yards downfield), pass (scramble, 3 yards, Griz blitzed), pass (17 yards downfield, intercepted by Tully);
Griz (6:11): ball on 31; pass (incomplete, EWU blitzed), pass (incomplete, EWU sent 4); pass 8 yards, EWU sent 4); 39 yard FG missed
EWU (5:20): pass (incomplete, 22 yards downfield), T/O EWU; pass (scramble, 12 yard completion), run (read-option QB keeper), pass (incomplete to Hill, 24 yards downfield), pass (Adams sacked by JP Kanongata'a), punt
Griz (3:29): pass (incomplete, EWU sent 4), pass (12 yards, EWU sent 4), pass (6 yards, EWU sent 4), pass (18 yards, EWU sent 4), pass (incomplete, EWU sent 4), pass (18 yards, EWU sent 4), pass (incomplete), pass (6 yards, TD to Harper). 2 pt conversion failed.

Onside kick failed.

Now, you and your Beagle buddies can read/spin that last quarter however you want, but I see an EWU team that:

a) didn't stop passing...in fact their pass/run ratio actually went UP
b) took SEVERAL shots down the field, not just "ball control" passing
c) In fact, the REAL culprit was EWU shooting themselves in the foot with stupid penalties in crunch time (personal foul, illegal motion) that caused the clock to stop when they would have preferred it continued running
d) never worked much time off the clock
d) NEVER went to a "prevent" defense, and in fact blitzed several times

Sounds to me like Baldwin is the one doing the "spinning". His team got it's ass handed to it during the 4th quarter, and he's trying to justify the meltdown, knowing that if that game were 3 minutes longer it's probably a Griz win.

[Grizalltheway]

I think he, and many eagles fans, don't want to give montana any credit and admit they were scared.

Sure, it's a loss for us either way, and there's no such thing as a moral victory, but the Griz were the reason the Griz came back.

Not sure exactly what you're getting at. Sure, I was concerned, as I'm sure a lot of other folks were. That said, do you have any idea how many "moral victories" Eastern has against Montana? A ton of them. And they still all count as losses.

Seriously, though, I think if you take these two teams and played 10 games, Eastern would win 8/10 of them this year.


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I don't see that game as a moral victory at all, and want nothing more than another shot at you guys in Cheney this December.

[kalm]

First series three and out was about the 10:00 Mark after three straight runs. True we went back to the pass after that but was mostly dink and dunk possession routes insteaf continuing to take a few shots. We also slowed the temp WAY down. Remember VA checking the play clock with a ton of time left?

Baldwin hasn't changed his tune - he admitted all this in the coaches show after that game and took personal responsibility.

But you think he's being disingenuous?

Blatant revisionist history attempt! You fucking EWU guys are pathetic . I just rewatched the entire 4th quarter of the game. After the EWU TD to go up 42-17, the rest of the game went like this:

Griz: long pass incomplete, short pass complete, run, punt
EWU: (14:10) run (EWU dead ball penalty), run, screen pass on 3rd & 23 (7 yards), punt
Griz: (12:02): pass (scramble), pass (24 yards), pass (4 yards), run (-1), pass (9), pass (8, EWU sent 6), pass (12), pass (incomplete), pass (incomplete, EWU sent 6), pass (incomplete, sent 3), pass (7, TD, sent 3).
EWU: (9:27): run (3), pass (scramble, -3), pass (EWU false start), pass (7 yards, had to hit the outlet because of coverage), punt
Griz (8:21): pass (scramble, 9), pass (scramble, 4, EWU blitzed), pass (48 yard TD, EWU sent LB blitz)
EWU (7:33): pass (9), pass (7 yards, Adams scrambling from huge pressure), pass (incomplete to Kupp, 7 yards downfield), pass (scramble, 3 yards, Griz blitzed), pass (17 yards downfield, intercepted by Tully);
Griz (6:11): ball on 31; pass (incomplete, EWU blitzed), pass (incomplete, EWU sent 4); pass 8 yards, EWU sent 4); 39 yard FG missed
EWU (5:20): pass (incomplete, 22 yards downfield), T/O EWU; pass (scramble, 12 yard completion), run (read-option QB keeper), pass (incomplete to Hill, 24 yards downfield), pass (Adams sacked by JP Kanongata'a), punt
Griz (3:29): pass (incomplete, EWU sent 4), pass (12 yards, EWU sent 4), pass (6 yards, EWU sent 4), pass (18 yards, EWU sent 4), pass (incomplete, EWU sent 4), pass (18 yards, EWU sent 4), pass (incomplete), pass (6 yards, TD to Harper). 2 pt conversion failed.

Onside kick failed.

Now, you and your Beagle buddies can read/spin that last quarter however you want, but I see an EWU team that:

a) didn't stop passing...in fact their pass/run ratio actually went UP
b) took SEVERAL shots down the field, not just "ball control" passing
c) In fact, the REAL culprit was EWU shooting themselves in the foot with stupid penalties in crunch time (personal foul, illegal motion) that caused the clock to stop when they would have preferred it continued running
d) never worked much time off the clock
d) NEVER went to a "prevent" defense, and in fact blitzed several times

Sounds to me like Baldwin is the one doing the "spinning". His team got it's ass handed to it during the 4th quarter, and he's trying to justify the meltdown, knowing that if that game were 3 minutes longer it's probably a Griz win.

I stand corrected, those first two drives we ran it twice then passed. My point still stands. Montana did a fine job getting back in the game and Beau acknowledges he took his foot off the pedal.

Take off the maroon colored glasses and quit digging. You fought valiantly but lost to a better team that day. Score could have worse.

[EWURanger]

Not sure exactly what you're getting at. Sure, I was concerned, as I'm sure a lot of other folks were. That said, do you have any idea how many "moral victories" Eastern has against Montana? A ton of them. And they still all count as losses.

Seriously, though, I think if you take these two teams and played 10 games, Eastern would win 8/10 of them this year.

I don't see that game as a moral victory at all, and want nothing more than another shot at you guys in Cheney this December.

That'd be fun. Both teams take care of business, and it could happen.

[AZGrizFan]

Blatant revisionist history attempt! You fucking EWU guys are pathetic . I just rewatched the entire 4th quarter of the game. After the EWU TD to go up 42-17, the rest of the game went like this:

Griz: long pass incomplete, short pass complete, run, punt
EWU: (14:10) run (EWU dead ball penalty), run, screen pass on 3rd & 23 (7 yards), punt
Griz: (12:02): pass (scramble), pass (24 yards), pass (4 yards), run (-1), pass (9), pass (8, EWU sent 6), pass (12), pass (incomplete), pass (incomplete, EWU sent 6), pass (incomplete, sent 3), pass (7, TD, sent 3).
EWU: (9:27): run (3), pass (scramble, -3), pass (EWU false start), pass (7 yards, had to hit the outlet because of coverage), punt
Griz (8:21): pass (scramble, 9), pass (scramble, 4, EWU blitzed), pass (48 yard TD, EWU sent LB blitz)
EWU (7:33): pass (9), pass (7 yards, Adams scrambling from huge pressure), pass (incomplete to Kupp, 7 yards downfield), pass (scramble, 3 yards, Griz blitzed), pass (17 yards downfield, intercepted by Tully);
Griz (6:11): ball on 31; pass (incomplete, EWU blitzed), pass (incomplete, EWU sent 4); pass 8 yards, EWU sent 4); 39 yard FG missed
EWU (5:20): pass (incomplete, 22 yards downfield), T/O EWU; pass (scramble, 12 yard completion), run (read-option QB keeper), pass (incomplete to Hill, 24 yards downfield), pass (Adams sacked by JP Kanongata'a), punt
Griz (3:29): pass (incomplete, EWU sent 4), pass (12 yards, EWU sent 4), pass (6 yards, EWU sent 4), pass (18 yards, EWU sent 4), pass (incomplete, EWU sent 4), pass (18 yards, EWU sent 4), pass (incomplete), pass (6 yards, TD to Harper). 2 pt conversion failed.

Onside kick failed.

Now, you and your Beagle buddies can read/spin that last quarter however you want, but I see an EWU team that:

a) didn't stop passing...in fact their pass/run ratio actually went UP
b) took SEVERAL shots down the field, not just "ball control" passing
c) In fact, the REAL culprit was EWU shooting themselves in the foot with stupid penalties in crunch time (personal foul, illegal motion) that caused the clock to stop when they would have preferred it continued running
d) never worked much time off the clock
d) NEVER went to a "prevent" defense, and in fact blitzed several times

Sounds to me like Baldwin is the one doing the "spinning". His team got it's ass handed to it during the 4th quarter, and he's trying to justify the meltdown, knowing that if that game were 3 minutes longer it's probably a Griz win.

I stand corrected, those first two drives we ran it twice then passed. My point still stands. Montana did a fine job getting back in the game and Beau acknowledges he took his foot off the pedal.

Take off the maroon colored glasses and quit digging. You fought valiantly but lost to a better team that day. Score could have worse.

Listen: you said they went conservative and ran the ball 3 straight times. Incorrect. You said what passes they did attempt were "dink and dunk" types. Incorrect. You said they went to "ball control" as VA "watched the clock"...incorrect. In fact, he did that exactly ONCE. Hell, on one of their punts there was still 12 seconds left on the play clock. "Taking his foot off the pedal" is a nice euphamism for "the figured some things out and we weren't as successful as we were in the first 3 quarters". I would LOVE another shot at EWU in the playoffs.

I am now going to take the position that Mick "took his foot off the gas" from 3:29 in the 2nd to the end of the 3rd quarter. That's the ONLY possible explanation as to how EWU could score 21 unanswered points. Amirite?

[luckyintheorder]

I think he, and many eagles fans, don't want to give montana any credit and admit they were scared.

Sure, it's a loss for us either way, and there's no such thing as a moral victory, but the Griz were the reason the Griz came back.

Not sure exactly what you're getting at. Sure, I was concerned, as I'm sure a lot of other folks were. That said, do you have any idea how many "moral victories" Eastern has against Montana? A ton of them. And they still all count as losses.

Seriously, though, I think if you take these two teams and played 10 games, Eastern would win 8/10 of them this year.


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10 out of 10. We might learn to double cover Henderson in the redzone too.

[AZGrizFan]

Not sure exactly what you're getting at. Sure, I was concerned, as I'm sure a lot of other folks were. That said, do you have any idea how many "moral victories" Eastern has against Montana? A ton of them. And they still all count as losses.

Seriously, though, I think if you take these two teams and played 10 games, Eastern would win 8/10 of them this year.


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10 out of 10. We might learn to double cover Henderson in the redzone too.

We might actually have our #1 corner back too...see how easy that is?

[Grizalltheway]

Not sure exactly what you're getting at. Sure, I was concerned, as I'm sure a lot of other folks were. That said, do you have any idea how many "moral victories" Eastern has against Montana? A ton of them. And they still all count as losses.

Seriously, though, I think if you take these two teams and played 10 games, Eastern would win 8/10 of them this year.


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10 out of 10. We might learn to double cover Henderson in the redzone too.

Most teams have been double or triple covering him, and look what good that's done them.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

10 out of 10. We might learn to double cover Henderson in the redzone too.

We might actually have our #1 corner back too...see how easy that is?

You can't honestly think that would make a great deal of difference with how many weapons we have, do you?

[Screamin_Eagle174]

I stand corrected, those first two drives we ran it twice then passed. My point still stands. Montana did a fine job getting back in the game and Beau acknowledges he took his foot off the pedal.

Take off the maroon colored glasses and quit digging. You fought valiantly but lost to a better team that day. Score could have worse.

Listen: you said they went conservative and ran the ball 3 straight times. Incorrect. You said what passes they did attempt were "dink and dunk" types. Incorrect. You said they went to "ball control" as VA "watched the clock"...incorrect. In fact, he did that exactly ONCE. Hell, on one of their punts there was still 12 seconds left on the play clock. "Taking his foot off the pedal" is a nice euphamism for "the figured some things out and we weren't as successful as we were in the first 3 quarters". I would LOVE another shot at EWU in the playoffs.

I am now going to take the position that Mick "took his foot off the gas" from 3:29 in the 2nd to the end of the 3rd quarter. That's the ONLY possible explanation as to how EWU could score 21 unanswered points. Amirite?

How can one take their foot off the gas when it was never on it? The Griz were behind from the second quarter on, and it certainly doesn't make sense to go conservative while holding a slim lead or deficit with the better part of three quarters to play. Please step away from the JBB juice.

[AZGrizFan]

We might actually have our #1 corner back too...see how easy that is?

You can't honestly think that would make a great deal of difference with how many weapons we have, do you?

Really? Do you think that game might have gone a little different if we'd had Goodwin and you HADN'T had Kupp?

[Grizalltheway]

We might actually have our #1 corner back too...see how easy that is?

You can't honestly think that would make a great deal of difference with how many weapons we have, do you?

Like I said, do you think putting more than one guy on Henderson would make that much difference? We start throwing to him earlier in that game and who knows how it turns out.