Towson -ODU - the Aftermath

[kalm]

I'm pretty sure SDSU had an entire half of plays against Montana in the playoff game a couple years back that determined the outcome.

[89Hen]

All of this is not meant to take anything away from Towson by the way....

We had control of the game and let it slip through our fingers. They are just the luckiest motherf#%kers on the face of the earth.

[CAA Flagship]

All of this is not meant to take anything away from Towson by the way....

We had control of the game and let it slip through our fingers. They are just the luckiest motherf#%kers on the face of the earth.

You forgot the . It was a joke.

As a side note, it is interesting to read the reaction of the Towson fans listening/watching the game in the 4th quarter. Look at how many times they called "game over".
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[Aho Old Guy]

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That 07 1st round loss to ASU with "The Fumble" in ASU's Miracle on the Mtn was probably the most devastating loss I have ever witnessed or heard of as a JMU player (1 season), student, or alum.
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Just a little heads up:

The Appalachian 'Miracle on the Mountain' was against Furman in 2002.

With both squads ranked in the top 5 and 7 seconds remaining in the game, the Vermin of Furman score to take a 15-14 lead over Appalachian. Coach Lamb decides to go for 2 to push the margin to 3. Josh Jeffries intercepts the conversion attempt, and laterals the ball to Derrick Black, whose runback enabled the Mountaineers to win the game 16-15.

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[CAA Flagship]

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That 07 1st round loss to ASU with "The Fumble" in ASU's Miracle on the Mtn was probably the most devastating loss I have ever witnessed or heard of as a JMU player (1 season), student, or alum.
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Just a little heads up:

The Appalachian 'Miracle on the Mountain' was against Furman in 2002.

With both squads ranked in the top 5 and 7 seconds remaining in the game, the Vermin of Furman score to take a 15-14 lead over Appalachian. Coach Lamb decides to go for 2 to push the margin to 3. Josh Jeffries intercepts the conversion attempt, and laterals the ball to Derrick Black, whose runback enabled the Mountaineers to win the game 16-15.

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Did Furman's #24 pull a hamstring. He should have tackled him inside the 10 yard line. He gave up.

[mcveyrl]

Your infancy is showing.

Somebody has already pointed out Villanova last year, but that was regular season.

If this had happened in the playoffs and you had the attitude you have now, wow...we'd be calling the hotline.

Just consider what JMU fans think of as one our most heartbreaking losses...

2007 we go to App. St., the defending champs. We are leading 27-19 with 7 minutes left. App kicks a field goal with 5 minutes left, we have the ball and are up 27-22. We go for it on 4th and 1 (or 2) in our own territory and get stuffed. IF we get that play, we can pretty much run the clock out. Instead, App scores with a minute left to go up 28-27. THEN we drive down inside their 10 and instead of kicking the field goal on 3rd down to win it, we run one more time - the fumble heard 'round the world ensues...IF we had kicked the field goal or IF J. Sullivan holds onto the ball, we probably win the game.

Not going into as much detail on this one, but in the 2006 playoffs we had an ELEVEN point lead going into the fourth quarter and blew it at Youngstown.

Again, if this is your most heartbreaking loss in the next five years, you're doing something wrong.

none of that sounds as bad as what we experienced. We were up 11 with 4 minutes left. They had to have everything go right AND get lucky (onside kick, 4th and 29 etc.) to win.

Your loss sounds more like stupidity than crappy luck. Trying to one up out devestating loss and telling us it's not that bad just wreaks of egotistical nonsense.

You gave up a fg and a td.....that happens. 4th and 29 doesn't happen very often, especially after recovering an onside kick that would have ended the game.

Speaking of stupidity...

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"I simply should have batted the ball down and instead I went for the interception," (ODU Safety Carvin) Powell said.

What's the number one rule for a DB on Fourth and Anything...KNOCK IT DOWN!

Egotistical nonsense...??? Everybody except ODU fans agree with me. I just laid out JMU's stories, some teams have much worse. Some have been laid out...

This one's been noted, but you should watch it (Sorry Jackrabbits).
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If anything wreaks of egotistical nonsense it's the "woe is us" attitude of the ODUers. I tried to warn the board this was coming...

[BlueHen86]

Speaking of stupidity...

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"I simply should have batted the ball down and instead I went for the interception," (ODU Safety Carvin) Powell said.

What's the number one rule for a DB on Fourth and Anything...KNOCK IT DOWN!

Egotistical nonsense...??? Everybody except ODU fans agree with me. I just laid out JMU's stories, some teams have much worse. Some have been laid out...

This one's been noted, but you should watch it (Sorry Jackrabbits).
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If anything wreaks of egotistical nonsense it's the "woe is us" attitude of the ODUers. I tried to warn the board this was coming...

You said it in one of your earlier posts. Their infancy is showing. They are lamenting a regular season game. Their team is still in good shape to make the playoffs and they have plenty of time to recover from the loss.

Until ODU has lost a heartbreaking playoff game in a year where they are a legitimate title contender, their fans don't have anything to complain about. It's like a guy with a polio vaccination mark comparing scars with a double amputee.

[Silenoz]

Oooh, are we sharing sad sack stories?

A) losing a championship because your D-lineman punched their QB in the face
B) losing a championship because your coach refuses to allow another team to dictate the game and forgets he has the best WR in program history in the 2nd half
C) losing a championship because the most prolific RB in I-AA history bails his team out on one of the most epic plays in our level's history
D) losing a championship because the best player in I-AA history beats you single-handily, and because they're cheaters

etc

And what was Delaware's hail mary pass against us? Was it 4th and a million? Or am I just remembering it that way because of how improbable it was?

[Silenoz]

And how does that JMU game not sound as bad?

They literally had the win over the (soon-to-be) champions in the bag. In the playoffs.

[BlueHen86]

Oooh, are we sharing sad sack stories?

A) losing a championship because your D-lineman punched their QB in the face
B) losing a championship because your coach refuses to allow another team to dictate the game and forgets he has the best WR in program history in the 2nd half
C) losing a championship because the most prolific RB in I-AA history bails his team out on one of the most epic plays in our level's history
D) losing a championship because the best player in I-AA history beats you single-handily, and because they're cheaters

etc

And what was Delaware's hail mary pass against us? Was it 4th and a million? Or am I just remembering it that way because of how improbable it was?

Are you talking about the 1993 playoff game? I don't recall a Hail Mary pass in that one. With the score tied at 42 - 42, UM scores a late TD, but misses the EP. UD moves down the field, much of it on the ground because UM couldn't stop Daryl Brown, and gets TD and makes the EP for a 49-48 win. I have the game on tape somewhere in my basement. If you're sure there was a Hail Mary I'll have to dig it out and check, if I can find a VCR.

[Silenoz]

The final TD to the east end of the south endzone

[BlueHen86]

The final TD to the east end of the south endzone

32 yard pass with 55 seconds left.

[Silenoz]

The final TD to the east end of the south endzone

32 yard pass with 55 seconds left.

Damn the memory of a 9 year old!

Heartbreaker nonetheless

[BlueHen86]

32 yard pass with 55 seconds left.

Damn the memory of a 9 year old!

Heartbreaker nonetheless

Agreed.

I had to go to a wedding that day, which is why I recorded it. I never recorded over it because it was such a great game. Showed it to my son a few years ago which is why I still remember some of it.

It was the Montana feed, your announcers were really complementary of UD (unlike the Marshall dickheads that thought their team was the greatest thing ever). I became a UM fan because your TV guys were cool.

[BDKJMU]

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That 07 1st round loss to ASU with "The Fumble" in ASU's Miracle on the Mtn was probably the most devastating loss I have ever witnessed or heard of as a JMU player (1 season), student, or alum.
...

Just a little heads up:

The Appalachian 'Miracle on the Mountain' was against Furman in 2002.

With both squads ranked in the top 5 and 7 seconds remaining in the game, the Vermin of Furman score to take a 15-14 lead over Appalachian. Coach Lamb decides to go for 2 to push the margin to 3. Josh Jeffries intercepts the conversion attempt, and laterals the ball to Derrick Black, whose runback enabled the Mountaineers to win the game 16-15.

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Well, JMU down by 1 pt fumbling on the ASU 9 yd line with about 20 seconds left in a PLAYOFF GAME wasn't a miracle on the mtn for ASU I don't know what is. Call that Miracle on the Mtn #2.

[BDKJMU]

Speaking of stupidity...

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What's the number one rule for a DB on Fourth and Anything...KNOCK IT DOWN!

Egotistical nonsense...??? Everybody except ODU fans agree with me. I just laid out JMU's stories, some teams have much worse. Some have been laid out...

This one's been noted, but you should watch it (Sorry Jackrabbits).
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If anything wreaks of egotistical nonsense it's the "woe is us" attitude of the ODUers. I tried to warn the board this was coming...

You said it in one of your earlier posts. Their infancy is showing. They are lamenting a regular season game. Their team is still in good shape to make the playoffs and they have plenty of time to recover from the loss.

Until ODU has lost a heartbreaking playoff game in a year where they are a legitimate title contender, their fans don't have anything to complain about. It's like a guy with a polio vaccination mark comparing scars with a double amputee.

I wouldn't necessarily say that. Are 5-2/2-2 right now. Without a I-A, don't think 7-4/4-4 gets them in, as they would likely be behind all the 7 Div I win teams from the CAA/So-Con/MVFC/Big Sky/Southland that had played a I-A (which is about everyone) and that would be also vying for those last few at large bids.

ODU has @ Nova, JMU, UR, @ W&M. Likely have to finish 3-1 to make the playoffs. They have a I think less than 50/50 chance, but I wouldn't necessarily label it good shape.

[BlueHen86]

You said it in one of your earlier posts. Their infancy is showing. They are lamenting a regular season game. Their team is still in good shape to make the playoffs and they have plenty of time to recover from the loss.

Until ODU has lost a heartbreaking playoff game in a year where they are a legitimate title contender, their fans don't have anything to complain about. It's like a guy with a polio vaccination mark comparing scars with a double amputee.

I wouldn't necessarily say that. Are 5-2/2-2 right now. Without a I-A, don't think 7-4/4-4 gets them in, as they would likely be behind all the 7 Div I win teams from the CAA/So-Con/MVFC/Big Sky/Southland that had played a I-A and that would be also vying for those last few at large bids.

ODU has @ Nova, JMU, UR, @ W&M. Likely have to finish 3-1 to make the playoffs. They have a I think less than 50/50 chance, but I wouldn't necessarily label it good shape.

I understand your point. They probably need to finish 3-1 to make it into the playoffs and that won't be easy. Where I was going with the "good shape" comment was that they aren't out of the playoffs because of the loss.

[BDKJMU]

BS. How many teams lose "important" games when if ANY ONE of THREE different plays, where the probability is on your side, go your way, you would win? Yeah, the loss sucks. But I have a much bigger problem getting over the WAY we lost.

Ask the Villanova fan about the JMU game in 2008

Yeah, with the TU @ ODU game, when TU scored, there was still about a min left. Wasn't like it was a last second play at home or anything:

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And Nova was a Qrtfinal team (lost to JMU) and UR went on to win the NC.

[CAA Flagship]

What the hell is wrong with you guys? At one point, you say that we are whining over a mere regular season game. Then you turn around and say that by losing that game, we may not get into the playoffs if we go 2-2 over the next 4 games. Make up your minds. Do you agree that the Towson game was "important" to us or not?

If we finish 2-2 without any drama playing out in those games, and miss out on the playoffs, do you think it is unusual to lament over the onside kick or the 4th and 29 where, had either of those two plays ended differently, the game would have been over (nothing but kneeldowns)? We are making a fuss over this because we know, as many of you are just now discovering, we can no longer back in to the playoffs. There is no room for error from here on out and we are getting thinner and thinner due to injuries.

[89Hen]

What the hell is wrong with you guys? At one point, you say that we are whining over a mere regular season game. Then you turn around and say that by losing that game, we may not get into the playoffs if we go 2-2 over the next 4 games. Make up your minds. Do you agree that the Towson game was "important" to us or not?

If we finish 2-2 without any drama playing out in those games, and miss out on the playoffs, do you think it is unusual to lament over the onside kick or the 4th and 29 where, had either of those two plays ended differently, the game would have been over (nothing but kneeldowns)? We are making a fuss over this because we know, as many of you are just now discovering, we can no longer back in to the playoffs. There is no room for error from here on out and we are getting thinner and thinner due to injuries.

I only speak for myself but it was how incredulous you were that this could possibly happen. Most of the posts seem to attempt to point out that this kind of crazy finish happens all the time. It could be that it's the first time it's happened to ODU that has made you this way... but rest assured, it will happen MANY times in your lifetime. Shoot, most fans have a hard time listing the top 10 heartbreaking moments in their team's history. For UD, I can rattle off a dozen in a minute.

[clenz]

What the hell is wrong with you guys? At one point, you say that we are whining over a mere regular season game. Then you turn around and say that by losing that game, we may not get into the playoffs if we go 2-2 over the next 4 games. Make up your minds. Do you agree that the Towson game was "important" to us or not?

If we finish 2-2 without any drama playing out in those games, and miss out on the playoffs, do you think it is unusual to lament over the onside kick or the 4th and 29 where, had either of those two plays ended differently, the game would have been over (nothing but kneeldowns)? We are making a fuss over this because we know, as many of you are just now discovering, we can no longer back in to the playoffs. There is no room for error from here on out and we are getting thinner and thinner due to injuries.

I only speak for myself but it was how incredulous you were that this could possibly happen. Most of the posts seem to attempt to point out that this kind of crazy finish happens all the time. It could be that it's the first time it's happened to ODU that has made you this way... but rest assured, it will happen MANY times in your lifetime. Shoot, most fans have a hard time listing the top 10 heartbreaking moments in their team's history. For UD, I can rattle off a dozen in a minute.

Heartbreaking/crazy finishes at UNI since 2007

2005: UNI leading App State in the NC game (in the 4th quarter), UNI QB is blindsided and fumbles...ASU picks up the fumble and runs it in for the winning score.

2006: UNI misses a 50ish yard FG as time expires to lose to Iowa State by 1

2007: Undefeated regular season, FBS win, ranked #1 all season long. UD comes into the dome for the Quarterfinals. 17k in the dome, Flacco saying post game that his OL could not hear him even when he was right behind them...UNI runs wild (to the tune of 100+ yards in the first quarter/quarter and a half) over UD. UNI stops running the ball, Flacco becomes a weeble-wobble that can't be sacked (UNI would blindside him on every play and he just bounced off) and coverted 3rd and 11+ more times than I can count....UD wins.

2008: UNI ranked #5 gives up an opening kick off return of 97 yards against SIU and the lead grew to 24-7, UNI climbs back into the game and ties it up at 24. UNI has the ball first and goal at the three and (one of the top 3 RB's in school history) fumbles the ball at the 1 yard line. UNI QB fumbles the ball with 54 seconds left to go in the game and SIU recovers it on the UNI 29 yard line...SIU kicks a game winning FG as time runs out

2008: Richmond comes to the dome for a semi-final match up. UNI has the lead with less than 2 minutes left in the game, 20-14, and has the ball. UNI with three bad play calls, due to UR still having 3 TO's, is forced to punt...punt shanked. UR takes over at mid-field with 1:12 left to go. Scores a game winning TD, IN THE FUCKING SEMI-FINALS, with 13 seconds left. UR then goes on to crush Montana in the NC game (A game with UNI players and fans feel they would have won)

2009: UNI leads IOWA at half time, and has really controlled the entire game. Iowa takes the lead in the 4th, but UNI has a chance to win it with a 40 yard FG with just seconds left on the clock...You think your finish was crazy, this finish is the only time in FB history this has happend....It's 3rd down UNI attempts the FG. BLOCKED, but it was only 3rd down, ball didn't cross the LOS. UNI jumps on it and gets the ball back with 2 seconds left to attempt another FG. This one ALSO BLOCKED. The game ends and UNI losses 16-17 due to the first, AND ONLY TIME, in football history back to back plays have resulted in blocked FG's.

2009: Homecoming vs. Southern Illinois. UNI has the ball late in the 4th, down by 7, driving for a chance to tie the game. UNI qb throws a terrible pass, it's picked and returned for a game winning TD, UNI loses 27-20.

2009: UNI wins the last game of the year and they are in, lose and they are out. UNI is at Illinois State, who had zero to play for. UNI takes the lead with just over 1 minute left on the clock after a TD. All they have to do is keep ISU out of the endzone and they make the playoffs. In stead ISUr drives the length of the field and scores the winning TD with just seconds left on the clock and win 22-20.

2010: Despite outgaining Iowa State by over 100 yards of offense UNI loses.

2010: At SIU, down 31-14 at half time UNI scores 24 second half points to force OT. SIU scores a TD in over time, UNI throws a pick in the end zone...SIU wins 45-38....

2010: UNI loses at HOME to a non-scholly PFL team...in the playoffs.



One loss isn't going to break you program. Until you take the bridesmades dress from UNI, you really don't have shit to complain about. There was 1 NC game we lost due to some fluke shit...1 NC game directly lost on some flukey shit...and 1 more likely NC game lost due to some flukey shit....

[CAA Flagship]

What the hell is wrong with you guys? At one point, you say that we are whining over a mere regular season game. Then you turn around and say that by losing that game, we may not get into the playoffs if we go 2-2 over the next 4 games. Make up your minds. Do you agree that the Towson game was "important" to us or not?

If we finish 2-2 without any drama playing out in those games, and miss out on the playoffs, do you think it is unusual to lament over the onside kick or the 4th and 29 where, had either of those two plays ended differently, the game would have been over (nothing but kneeldowns)? We are making a fuss over this because we know, as many of you are just now discovering, we can no longer back in to the playoffs. There is no room for error from here on out and we are getting thinner and thinner due to injuries.

I only speak for myself but it was how incredulous you were that this could possibly happen. Most of the posts seem to attempt to point out that this kind of crazy finish happens all the time. It could be that it's the first time it's happened to ODU that has made you this way... but rest assured, it will happen MANY times in your lifetime. Shoot, most fans have a hard time listing the top 10 heartbreaking moments in their team's history. For UD, I can rattle off a dozen in a minute.

First, my most recent post is with regard to the importance of the game.
I agree that there will be more heartbreaking losses in the future, and some may come in more important games. I think there are different degrees of freak plays though. And there are those that are earned and unearned. And there are earned wins from freak plays that were aided by the stupidity of the loser (as in us keeping 6 friggin' guys at the line of scrimmage on 4th and 29).

[89Hen]

I think there are different degrees of freak plays though.

Yup, and what you saw last week isn't even close to the worst.

[mcveyrl]

Heartbreaking/crazy finishes at UNI since 2007

2005: UNI leading App State in the NC game (in the 4th quarter), UNI QB is blindsided and fumbles...ASU picks up the fumble and runs it in for the winning score.

2006: UNI misses a 50ish yard FG as time expires to lose to Iowa State by 1

[GannonFan]

2007: Undefeated regular season, FBS win, ranked #1 all season long. UD comes into the dome for the Quarterfinals. 17k in the dome, Flacco saying post game that his OL could not hear him even when he was right behind them...UNI runs wild (to the tune of 100+ yards in the first quarter/quarter and a half) over UD. UNI stops running the ball, Flacco becomes a weeble-wobble that can't be sacked (UNI would blindside him on every play and he just bounced off) and coverted 3rd and 11+ more times than I can count....UD wins.

UNI reviews of that game are always odd like that. Sure UNI had success running the ball early - their first 3 rushes gained 70 yards. What's missing, though, is the context. UNI never abandoned the run - they ran the ball 9 times in the 1Q, 7 in the 2Q, 8 in the 3Q, and 8 in the 4Q. Heck, if anything, they were amazingly consistent. But obviously, UD played the run much better after the first drive - UNI only had 104 yards rushing the rest of the way on at least 28 carries - that's just a 3.7 average - not bad, but not great either. And you factor in that UNI played most of the second half from behind, and a good portion they played more than one score behind. UNI ran as much as they did to start the game - they just weren't as successful doing it and eventually the game dictated they had to throw the ball.