grizzaholic wrote:You are braver than I. I wouldn't know where to start after the top 4 or 5.
Do you really think Montana will get the 4 seed? If Montana does get the 4 seed...shouldn't NAU also get a seed?
5-8 all have some sort of negative and Montana played EWU tough late in the season. (On second thought, maybe SELA is too low?) As for NAU, I just couldn't give one conference three seeds. Call it ECB if you like.
I won't call it anything. I just don't know. I can probably do the top 4 or 5 seeds but after that If you watched the EWU game you would know the final score wasn't as close as most of the game really was.
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grizzaholic wrote:You are braver than I. I wouldn't know where to start after the top 4 or 5.
Do you really think Montana will get the 4 seed? If Montana does get the 4 seed...shouldn't NAU also get a seed?
5-8 all have some sort of negative and Montana played EWU tough late in the season. (On second thought, maybe SELA is too low?) As for NAU, I just couldn't give one conference three seeds. Call it ECB if you like.
NAU finished ahead of Montana in the standings. NAU beat Montana by 18
grizzaholic wrote:You are braver than I. I wouldn't know where to start after the top 4 or 5.
Do you really think Montana will get the 4 seed? If Montana does get the 4 seed...shouldn't NAU also get a seed?
5-8 all have some sort of negative and Montana played EWU tough late in the season. (On second thought, maybe SELA is too low?) As for NAU, I just couldn't give one conference three seeds. Call it ECB if you like.
"Tough" is kinda debatable. It was 42-17 at the end of the 3rd Qtr.
#1 - North Dakota St.
#2 - Eastern Illinois
#3 - Eastern Washington
#4 - Southeastern Louisiana
#5 - NAU
#6 - Montana
#7 - McNeese St.
#8 - Maine
Coastal, Fordham, and Towson could conceivably take one of those seeds, and Bethune-Cookman could perhaps be a dark horse. The Maine/Towson situation is interesting. Maine won the CAA by a game, but they have the same overall record as Towson & one less FCS loss. Will their loss the final week drop them below Towson, or will they drag Towson down with them (Towson & Maine didn't play each other)?
I doubt they will seed 3 Big Sky teams. It'll be interesting to see what happens with NAU/Montana. NAU has one less conference loss and holds the HTH over Montana.
TribeFanInNC wrote:
5-8 all have some sort of negative and Montana played EWU tough late in the season. (On second thought, maybe SELA is too low?) As for NAU, I just couldn't give one conference three seeds. Call it ECB if you like.
"Tough" is kinda debatable. It was 42-17 at the end of the 3rd Qtr.
The Griz definitely had a chance to win in the 4th., so don't give us that. If Worst makes the late FG & the Griz get the deuce, it would've been tied. Also, the Griz likely drive down & win the game if they get the onside.
EWURanger wrote:
"Tough" is kinda debatable. It was 42-17 at the end of the 3rd Qtr.
The Griz definitely had a chance to win in the 4th., so don't give us that. If Worst makes the late FG & the Griz get the deuce, it would've been tied. Also, the Griz likely drive down & win the game if they get the onside.
"Likely"? Likely based on what, exactly? Your opinion? Lots of "ifs" in your statement.
As many of you have said, I'm confused as heck right now, and the least of it is personal confusion on which HBCUs will accept a playoff bid and which will take a bowl bid instead. Plus, we DO have too many teams in the 4-5 loss range. Factoring out the HBCUs for the time being, I'm one team short of the full 24 even by taking teams that will ultimately face snubs (like Liberty). I'm even counting one on conference rep alone at 7-4.
Anyways, here's who I have now. Goodness knows if I have ANYTHING right here other than the obvious #1 seed....
#1 NDSU
#2 EWU
#3 EIU
#4 SELA
#5 Montana
#6 Towson St.
#7 McNeese St.
#8 CCU
Non-Seeds
Big Sky - NAU
Big South - Liberty/Chuck South
CAA - UMAINE/UNH
MVC - YSU
Northeast - Sacred Heart
OVC - TN St./Jax St.
Patriot - Lafayette/Lehigh/Fordham
Pioneer - Butler
SoCon - TN-Chattanooga/Samford/EDIT: Furman AQ (Just saw Aho's post)
Southland - N/A
Once HBCUs start getting factored in (probably no more than three, right), the first off my list will probably be Liberty, UNH, and Lehigh. EDIT: Aho's post gets me to 24, but I'm STILL going to lose at least those three, if not Samford as well. I'm fairly certain that I will ALSO lose Lehigh, though I'm confident Fordham gets in. UNH I'm not so sure about, but I think conference rep just might do the trick. Even if I'm right and CAA only gets three, the screams will be heard nationwide....
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Consider the entire body of work. NAU...
was blown out 36-7 by Montana State (7-5)
won at Sac State (5-7) by 1
won at home over Idaho State (3-9) 39-30
won by 4 at Cal Poly (6-6)
won at home 22-16 over South Dakota (4-8)
This just doesn't sound like a highly seeded team to me
Mvemjsunpx wrote:
The Griz definitely had a chance to win in the 4th., so don't give us that. If Worst makes the late FG & the Griz get the deuce, it would've been tied. Also, the Griz likely drive down & win the game if they get the onside.
"Likely"? Likely based on what, exactly? Your opinion? Lots of "ifs" in your statement.
Ummm, UM lost by 5. A field goal is worth 3. A 2-point conversion is worth 2. 3 + 2 = 5.
TribeFanInNC wrote:Consider the entire body of work. NAU...
was blown out 36-7 by Montana State (7-5)
won at Sac State (5-7) by 1
won at home over Idaho State (3-9) 39-30
won by 4 at Cal Poly (6-6)
won at home 22-16 over South Dakota (4-8)
This just doesn't sound like a highly seeded team to me
Perhaps not, but who looks better that I don't already have ahead of them? McNeese has some nice wins, but they were waxed in their two FCS losses. Towson has two FCS losses. Coastal & Fordham feasted on weaker teams & they both lost relatively recently (NAU has won 6 in a row). Maine lost convincingly just today.
I could see Fordham ahead of NAU if the committee doesn't penalize the loss without Nebrich too harsh, but otherwise…
Don't you be lumping me into that "you folks" talk. I have always said EWU kicked Montana's ass and then went to Prevent to Win Defense and let Montana back in.
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SuperHornet wrote:As many of you have said, I'm confused as heck right now, and the least of it is personal confusion on which HBCUs will accept a playoff bid and which will take a bowl bid instead. Plus, we DO have too many teams in the 4-5 loss range. Factoring out the HBCUs for the time being, I'm one team short of the full 24 even by taking teams that will ultimately face snubs (like Liberty). I'm even counting one on conference rep alone at 7-4.
Anyways, here's who I have now. Goodness knows if I have ANYTHING right here other than the obvious #1 seed....
#1 NDSU
#2 EWU
#3 EIU
#4 SELA
#5 Montana
#6 Towson St.
#7 McNeese St.
#8 CCU
Non-Seeds
Big Sky - NAU
Big South - Liberty/Chuck South
CAA - UMAINE/UNH
MVC - YSU
Northeast - Sacred Heart
OVC - TN St./Jax St.
Patriot - Lafayette/Lehigh/Fordham
Pioneer - Butler
SoCon - TN-Chattanooga/Samford/EDIT: Furman AQ (Just saw Aho's post)
Southland - N/A
Once HBCUs start getting factored in (probably no more than three, right), the first off my list will probably be Liberty, UNH, and Lehigh. EDIT: Aho's post gets me to 24, but I'm STILL going to lose at least those three, if not Samford as well. I'm fairly certain that I will ALSO lose Lehigh, though I'm confident Fordham gets in. UNH I'm not so sure about, but I think conference rep just might do the trick. Even if I'm right and CAA only gets three, the screams will be heard nationwide....
So you have YSU even though South Dakota State just abused them...just checking.....
TribeFanInNC wrote:Consider the entire body of work. NAU...
was blown out 36-7 by Montana State (7-5)
won at Sac State (5-7) by 1
won at home over Idaho State (3-9) 39-30
won by 4 at Cal Poly (6-6)
won at home 22-16 over South Dakota (4-8)
This just doesn't sound like a highly seeded team to me
You left off the 18 point win over Montana and the 10 point win over SUU
TribeFanInNC wrote:Consider the entire body of work. NAU...
was blown out 36-7 by Montana State (7-5)
won at Sac State (5-7) by 1
won at home over Idaho State (3-9) 39-30
won by 4 at Cal Poly (6-6)
won at home 22-16 over South Dakota (4-8)
This just doesn't sound like a highly seeded team to me
You left off the 18 point win over Montana and the 10 point win over SUU
When it comes to seeding it's necessary to split some hairs. Seeded teams need to show consistent excellence. I personally don't see ekeing out wins over middling teams in 1/3 of your games as being up to that standard. With that frequency one can't claim "Oh, they had a bad day." Is NAU worthy of making the field? Without a doubt based on quality wins. They just don't meet my standard of being a seed.
SuperHornet wrote:As many of you have said, I'm confused as heck right now, and the least of it is personal confusion on which HBCUs will accept a playoff bid and which will take a bowl bid instead. Plus, we DO have too many teams in the 4-5 loss range. Factoring out the HBCUs for the time being, I'm one team short of the full 24 even by taking teams that will ultimately face snubs (like Liberty). I'm even counting one on conference rep alone at 7-4.
Anyways, here's who I have now. Goodness knows if I have ANYTHING right here other than the obvious #1 seed....
#1 NDSU
#2 EWU
#3 EIU
#4 SELA
#5 Montana
#6 Towson St.
#7 McNeese St.
#8 CCU
Non-Seeds
Big Sky - NAU
Big South - Liberty/Chuck South
CAA - UMAINE/UNH
MVC - YSU
Northeast - Sacred Heart
OVC - TN St./Jax St.
Patriot - Lafayette/Lehigh/Fordham
Pioneer - Butler
SoCon - TN-Chattanooga/Samford/EDIT: Furman AQ (Just saw Aho's post)
Southland - N/A
Once HBCUs start getting factored in (probably no more than three, right), the first off my list will probably be Liberty, UNH, and Lehigh. EDIT: Aho's post gets me to 24, but I'm STILL going to lose at least those three, if not Samford as well. I'm fairly certain that I will ALSO lose Lehigh, though I'm confident Fordham gets in. UNH I'm not so sure about, but I think conference rep just might do the trick. Even if I'm right and CAA only gets three, the screams will be heard nationwide....
So you have YSU even though South Dakota State just abused them...just checking.....
The Kicker wrote:1. North Dakota State* (11-0)
2. Eastern Illinois* (11-1)
3. Maine* (10-2)
4. Southeastern Louisiana* (10-2)
5. Eastern Washington* (10-2)
6. Towson (10-2)
7. Montana (10-2)
8. McNeese State (10-2)
9. Fordham (11-1)
10. Northern Arizona (9-2)
11. South Dakota State (8-4)
12. Bethune-Cookman* (10-2)
13. Coastal Carolina* (10-2)
14. Sam Houston State (8-4)
15. Youngstown State (8-4)
16. Southern Utah (8-4)
17. New Hampshire (7-4)
18. South Carolina State (9-3)
19. Tennessee State (9-3)
20. Furman* (7-5)
21. Northern Iowa (7-5)
22. Sacred Heart* (10-2)
23. Lafayette* (5-6)
24. Butler* (9-3)
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Montana State (7-5)
Charleston Southern (10-3)
Samford (8-4)
Jacksonville State (9-3)
Liberty 8-4
William Mary 7-5
Delaware 7-5
Southern Illinois 7-5
Lehigh 8-3
Chattanooga 8-4
I don't think UNI gets in over either Jax St or Samford. SHSU is the wildcard in my book, 804 without a QB, does the committee take that into account? I'd love to hear the answer to that question. In March Madness Kentucky's injury to Nerlens Noel was taken into account so I put SHSU out.
I don't think UNI gets in over either Jax St or Samford. SHSU is the wildcard in my book, 804 without a QB, does the committee take that into account? I'd love to hear the answer to that question. In March Madness Kentucky's injury to Nerlens Noel was taken into account so I put SHSU out.[/quote]
I have UNI as my wildcard. Just one win in OCT would have had them in for sure. Lets face it they are the only team to have NDSU on the ropes and would like to see someone in the field that could give them a headache. Also 3 overtime losses really hurt them but shows they were in every game. UNI could make a run in the playoffs and it would not shock anyone. A Jax St or Samford I just can't see winning more than one playoff game.
The Kicker wrote:
I have UNI as my wildcard. Just one win in OCT would have had them in for sure. Lets face it they are the only team to have NDSU on the ropes and would like to see someone in the field that could give them a headache. Also 3 overtime losses really hurt them but shows they were in every game. UNI could make a run in the playoffs and it would not shock anyone. A Jax St or Samford I just can't see winning more than one playoff game.
The UNI team that had NDSU on the ropes was a lot healthier. Not sure how many of the injured players have returned.
If you watched the EWU game you would know the final score wasn't as close as most of the game really was.
Don't you be lumping me into that "you folks" talk. I have always said EWU kicked Montana's ass and then went to Prevent to Win Defense and let Montana back in.
