Is the MVFC overrated?

[Hambone]

Personally last year I thought Ojuri was better than McNorton in the games I watched, but this year I think Crockett is better than both. When I watched him in HS, I thought that some Big 10 school is going to get a heck of a back. Then NDSU took a chance on him with the academic problems and they are reaping the benefits. This kid may be the best RB to come out of NDSU since Lamar Gordon (and there have been some absolute studs since then). And this coming from a UND fan.

[Theee Catrabbit]

No kidding. SDSU BARELY beat UCD at home.

Did MSU not just BARELY beat UCD? Granted it was at UCD, but lets be real, acting like SDSU is a joke from that game is a bit retarded. UCD seems to take everybody they play right down to the end. If they were called UNI they would have people arguing to rank them

Hey Thump! good to see you!

Anyways.....State's been winning with two starting OL's out before the season even started and the QB's throwing hand all mangled. Good Defense and a stud at RB. We've yet to make it to the meat of our schedule quite a buzzsaw coming up after Western Ill(trap game?). Goes: UNI, YSU, SIU, NDSU. We'll see how we come out the other side of that. We need to take WIU and then 2(hopefully 3) of those games and then piss-pound the yoteeees.

As for being overrated? No. The sagarin power rankings have us on top, then I guess we're as awesome as we think we are. Once again the playoffs will show who's pretending anyways. The good news is none of MVFC teams will have to play each other in the playoffs first round....which is nice.....

[Trapped in CA]

double post

[Trapped in CA]

Montana - UNI - I'll take UNI

I'll believe it when I believe it. UNI has found many new & interesting ways to curl up & die on the field against MT over the years. They're in our head.

[Grizalltheway]

Montana - UNI - I'll take UNI

I'll believe it when I believe it. UNI has found many new & interesting ways to curl up & die on the field against MT over the years. They're in our head.

If we played this season, it certainly wouldn't be a blow out, but I'd still give us the edge at home. Who knows what would happen in the dome.

[Trapped in CA]

Ain't buying what your selling. UNI has little to no front seven on defense. Combination of graduation & injuries, and maybe talent. Maybe that will change after the bye week, but I am skeptical.

The offense is lighting it up however.

[CAA Flagship]

I'll believe it when I believe it. UNI has found many new & interesting ways to curl up & die on the field against MT over the years. They're in our head.

If we played this season, it certainly wouldn't be a blow out, but I'd still give us the edge at home. Who knows what would happen in the dome.

I'm pretty sure you two would be blowing each other.

[Grizalltheway]

If we played this season, it certainly wouldn't be a blow out, but I'd still give us the edge at home. Who knows what would happen in the dome.

I'm pretty sure you two would be blowing each other.

Pipe down, C-USA Doormat. We're trying to talk FCS football here.

[clenz]

Montana - UNI - I'll take UNI

I'll believe it when I believe it. UNI has found many new & interesting ways to curl up & die on the field against MT over the years. They're in our head.

All of those games I picked would be neutral field games.

UNI/Montana in the dome/neutral field is a completely different beast than at Wa-Griz.

[ming01]

They are as good as last year...no more, no less. I prefer last year's two-headed monster at running back, last year's offensive line, defensive line and LBs to this year's iterations.

Are you serious with this?

The tandem of Ojuri and Crocket is pretty darn good this year. Both are better than DJ.

I could see the O-line so far but this year's squad has performed pretty well so far. Both RFR have done a good job.

This year's D-line is better than last year. Perry-Drevlow-Luecke-Schaetz-Juckem are the best rotation in the MV....period. Much deeper group this year. Our LB corp is thin this year but the 3 starters are just as good as last year and they are a faster group collectively.

If this team stays healthy, no other team in the Valley will beat them. The only way the Bison lose is if they turn the ball over multiple times in a game.

So, are you picking Indiana State this week?

guess i dont blame him. it's basically a horse a piece. i would take last years RBs cuz of mcnortons screen game. the DL has boyer last season but theyre a year more experienced this year. stociznski was a good 3rd down guy. The LBs were deeper last season. Another year experienced. Olson is a better all around LB than Evans in my eyes. Littlejohn abd Beck are very versatile. Willson was great last season for us. Man love our depth and love that we lose very good players and other guys can just step right in without any downgrades

[Thumper 76]

Did MSU not just BARELY beat UCD? Granted it was at UCD, but lets be real, acting like SDSU is a joke from that game is a bit retarded. UCD seems to take everybody they play right down to the end. If they were called UNI they would have people arguing to rank them

Hey Thump! good to see you!

Anyways.....State's been winning with two starting OL's out before the season even started and the QB's throwing hand all mangled. Good Defense and a stud at RB. We've yet to make it to the meat of our schedule quite a buzzsaw coming up after Western Ill(trap game?). Goes: UNI, YSU, SIU, NDSU. We'll see how we come out the other side of that. We need to take WIU and then 2(hopefully 3) of those games and then piss-pound the yoteeees.

As for being overrated? No. The sagarin power rankings have us on top, then I guess we're as awesome as we think we are. Once again the playoffs will show who's pretending anyways. The good news is none of MVFC teams will have to play each other in the playoffs first round....which is nice.....

Good to be back man, been pretty busy. Also, if we get the passing game going, we'll be pretty tough to beat. But if we don't, we'll be in really rough shape hitting that buzzsaw, ZZ can't take the beating quite like those defenses would give him if we have to ride him like we have been.

[BisoNation]

Youngstown gets obliterated, Illinois State get shut out at home. Were people to quick to dub the MVFC as being totally awesome because of wins over bad FBS teams? No smack intended, just an honest question.

I have a hard time saying it deserved all the props it got in the first place. I think the Valley is the most physical conference in FCS football and that obviously is an advantage over FCS teams and allows Valley teams to beat/compete with FBS schools. But there is much more parody in the FCS to me. Unlike a team like Oregon going up against LSU or Alabama and getting shut down I think a Big Sky team like EWU or MSU could beat a team like YSU or Ill St, or at least keep the game tight.

I will make the bold statement of comparing Fargo, ND to Tuscaloosa, AL this year though in that the teams in those cities are on a whole different level than anyone else in their divisions. But as for conferences, doesn't seem like anyone really stands out above the rest. Big Sky, MVFC, SoCon, CAA all have very very good teams, and very bad teams.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Let's see how the records look after the season is over. Youngstown could be 10-1 with the Bison 11-0 and Ill State at 8-3......or UNI at 7-4 along with Ill State 7-4. Maybe SDSU runs the table and ends up 10-1.

The Valley is a meatgrinder every week. There are some pretty good teams right now in the Valley: NDSU, YSU, ILL State, SDSU, UNI and Ind State.

[houndawg]

No, the MVC is not overrated.

[∞∞∞]

I think it's a difficult conference, but I'm unsure how good it is compared to the other conferences...more so after today. Honestly, with YSU and UNI falling today, it might show that NDSU's win over those two teams may not have been as impressive as first thought. Don't take me wrong, I think NDSU is still a top team, but with their loss today and their best wins over two teams that are sputtering (one without a D1 win), I think they might be MUCH more beatable that a lot of people have been giving them credit for.

I'm just not convinced that the MVFC is that great anymore. Maybe within itself it's a tough league, but so are all the others top conferences. But I guess that's why we have playoffs.

[mlbowl]

If UNI runs the table and finishes 7-4 IMO, they are in the playoffs. A lot of season left but I think they run the table.

...If they finish 7-4, they will have 6 Div I wins...Don't think so

[mlbowl]

If UNI runs the table and finishes 7-4 IMO, they are in the playoffs. A lot of season left but I think they run the table.

...If they finish 7-4, they will have 6 Div I wins...Don't think so

Nevermind...just saw that they lost today.

[Grizalltheway]

The playoffs are going to be wide-fucking-open this year, and it kills me inside that that UM probably won't be taking part.

[skinny_uncle]

If UNI runs the table and finishes 7-4 IMO, they are in the playoffs. A lot of season left but I think they run the table.

...If they finish 7-4, they will have 6 Div I wins...Don't think so

Moot point after today anyhow.

[skinny_uncle]

If anything, the teams losing to one another just proves how tough the conference is. The best teams have competed well outside the conference as well. If anyone on this board thinks it's a breeze to walk into Fargo and win, by all means, give it your best shot. The Sycs are in first place in the Valley after today and that's something to be quite proud of!

Nice win by the Sickamores, but it looks like SDSU is heading for first place tonight.

[clenz]

With UNI's defense they wouldn't beat Georgia State...our defense is beyond fucking embarrassing.

[Thumper 76]

If anything, the teams losing to one another just proves how tough the conference is. The best teams have competed well outside the conference as well. If anyone on this board thinks it's a breeze to walk into Fargo and win, by all means, give it your best shot. The Sycs are in first place in the Valley after today and that's something to be quite proud of!

Ahem, hate to burst that bubble. Guess you forgot about ZZ leaving scorch marks on your field and your defense a couple weeks ago?

[houndawg]

With UNI's defense they wouldn't beat Georgia State...our defense is beyond **** embarrassing.

I thought your defense played respectably, held us to 20 points, good enough to win a lot of games. From the stands what really jumped out at me was your mammoth o line giving up five sacks in spite of an enormous size advantage.

[Gil Dobie]

I think it's a difficult conference, but I'm unsure how good it is compared to the other conferences...more so after today. Honestly, with YSU and UNI falling today, it might show that NDSU's win over those two teams may not have been as impressive as first thought. Don't take me wrong, I think NDSU is still a top team, but with their loss today and their best wins over two teams that are sputtering (one without a D1 win), I think they might be MUCH more beatable that a lot of people have been giving them credit for.

I'm just not convinced that the MVFC is that great anymore. Maybe within itself it's a tough league, but so are all the others top conferences. But I guess that's why we have playoffs.

I'm looking at the Southern conference as being stronger than perceived. CAA didn't look good after UNH getting blown out by a bad Minnesota team. Big Sky is still working itself out.

[clenz]

With UNI's defense they wouldn't beat Georgia State...our defense is beyond **** embarrassing.

I thought your defense played respectably, held us to 20 points, good enough to win a lot of games. From the stands what really jumped out at me was your mammoth o line giving up five sacks in spite of an enormous size advantage.

Our OL has been failry good this year - it's our defense that has been complete crap.

4th game this year UNI has scored 21 or more and lost, second time over 30 with a loss. There is zero run defense, which is very strange to see from a UNI team.....doesn't help we are playing 3rd and 4th string DL and LB's, but I doubt it'd make that much of a difference

Zenner is going to put up 500 yards on the ground next weekend