October 24 Bracket Predictions

[kalm]

To the left,

Will msu be an underdog at isu next week or against weber at home the following week?

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Question: What would a Liberty fan know about playoffs?

[eaglesfootball]

At this point I think Montana State is sort of like EWU was towards the end of the season last year. Really explosive offense but banged up defense that gets shredded. If MSU can't get some players healthy on defense I have a hard time seeing them doing anything post season.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

At this point I think Montana State is sort of like EWU was towards the end of the season last year. Really explosive offense but banged up defense that gets shredded. If MSU can't get some players healthy on defense I have a hard time seeing them doing anything post season.

Welcome to the board eaglesfootball!

[ToTheLeft]

To the left,

Will msu be an underdog at isu next week or against weber at home the following week?

Picking an upset or two and "relying on upsets" mean something different to me.

If you were saying "so you think there will be a couple upsets" then yes.

But I don't think there's a ton of them in my projections. But then again, it wouldn't be projections if you just said "Favorites win out, let's rank em up".

[kalm]

To the left,

Will msu be an underdog at isu next week or against weber at home the following week?

Picking an upset or two and "relying on upsets" mean something different to me.

If you were saying "so you think there will be a couple upsets" then yes.

But I don't think there's a ton of them in my projections. But then again, it wouldn't be projections if you just said "Favorites win out, let's rank em up".

In order for your projections to come true, you are relying upon upsets.

(it's like arguing with joltin' Joe with this one)

[ToTheLeft]

Picking an upset or two and "relying on upsets" mean something different to me.

If you were saying "so you think there will be a couple upsets" then yes.

But I don't think there's a ton of them in my projections. But then again, it wouldn't be projections if you just said "Favorites win out, let's rank em up".

In order for your projections to come true, you are relying upon upsets.

(it's like arguing with joltin' Joe with this one)

Yes, by the books, upsets will have to occur in order for my projections to become reality.

I would assume most projections are the same way when it comes to looking at the end of the year rather than current resume.

[aceinthehole]

Just a guess of how they will play out, but I think the at-large bids will look something like this:

Big Sky (2) - EWU & MSU
CAA (4) UD, 'Nova, UNH, & JMU or UMass
MVFC (1) WIU or NDSU
OVC (1) SEMO
SoCon (2) Wofford & Chatt

On the bubble: Furman, Sam Houston/McNeese, Cal Poly, JMU/UMass

Neither the PFL or MEAC will get an at-large.

[AZGrizFan]

Gotcha. So it's a difference of opinion on a couple games, but I'm the one smoking crack. Gotcha.

Perhaps the bigger "smoking crack" part is FOUR MVC teams. For SDSU to make the playoffs, they HAVE to win out. Which means beating NDSU. Which then means NDSU cannot lose to either SIU or Missouri State. You wanna bet the bank on that? The MVC is a total clusterfuck this year, with no clear favorite and no clear upper tier team. I could easily see the MVC being a one-bid league.

[AZGrizFan]

Just a guess of how they will play out, but I think the at-large bids will look something like this:

Big Sky (2) - EWU & MSU
CAA (4) UD, 'Nova, UNH, & JMU or UMass
MVFC (1) WIU or NDSU
OVC (1) SEMO
SoCon (2) Wofford & Chatt

On the bubble: Furman, Sam Houston/McNeese, Cal Poly, JMU/UMass

Neither the PFL or MEAC will get an at-large.

Very, VERY possible.

[ToTheLeft]

Gotcha. So it's a difference of opinion on a couple games, but I'm the one smoking crack. Gotcha.

Perhaps the bigger "smoking crack" part is FOUR MVC teams. For SDSU to make the playoffs, they HAVE to win out. Which means beating NDSU. Which then means NDSU cannot lose to either SIU or Missouri State. You wanna bet the bank on that? The MVC is a total clusterfuck this year, with no clear favorite and no clear upper tier team. I could easily see the MVC being a one-bid league.

No I don't want to bet on it. It's a guess. And your thoughts on a conference in general means nothing about the specific teams in that conference.

Pssttt. The Big Sky hasn't been much clearer, and it's possible it could be a 1 team league if teams that have almost crapped the bed start actually crapping the bed.

[AZGrizFan]

Perhaps the bigger "smoking crack" part is FOUR MVC teams. For SDSU to make the playoffs, they HAVE to win out. Which means beating NDSU. Which then means NDSU cannot lose to either SIU or Missouri State. You wanna bet the bank on that? The MVC is a total clusterfuck this year, with no clear favorite and no clear upper tier team. I could easily see the MVC being a one-bid league.

No I don't want to bet on it. It's a guess. And your thoughts on a conference in general means nothing about the specific teams in that conference.

Pssttt. The Big Sky hasn't been much clearer, and it's possible it could be a 1 team league if teams that have almost crapped the bed start actually crapping the bed.

Just take a look at the MVC conference standings, then maybe rethink your NDSU pick.

[ToTheLeft]

No I don't want to bet on it. It's a guess. And your thoughts on a conference in general means nothing about the specific teams in that conference.

Pssttt. The Big Sky hasn't been much clearer, and it's possible it could be a 1 team league if teams that have almost crapped the bed start actually crapping the bed.

Just take a look at the MVC conference standings, then maybe rethink your NDSU pick.

Why? I took a look at their schedule. If they win 2 games, they're in. Who gives a flying crap where they finish in conference man? THAT. DOES. NOT. MATTER. If they have a Big XII win and 7 DI wins, they're in. And that''s what I'm predicting. I don't care where they are right now in the standings. That matters not to me. If that's how you judge playoff teams, then let's put Dayton and Jacksonville in. They haven't lost in conference.

[AZGrizFan]

Just take a look at the MVC conference standings, then maybe rethink your NDSU pick.

Why? I took a look at their schedule. If they win 2 games, they're in. Who gives a flying crap where they finish in conference man? THAT. DOES. NOT. MATTER. If they have a Big XII win and 7 DI wins, they're in. And that''s what I'm predicting. I don't care where they are right now in the standings. That matters not to me. If that's how you judge playoff teams, then let's put Dayton and Jacksonville in. They haven't lost in conference.

Now you're just talking crazy shit.

I simply don't think a 7-4 NDSU team, that goes only 4-4 in their own conference, even WITh a win over a Big XII team, gets in.

[Willie]

Only two Big Sky teams, Cmon!

Just one BSC team doesn't seem right...

You're an idiot.

[EWURanger]

Pssttt. The Big Sky hasn't been much clearer, and it's possible it could be a 1 team league if teams that have almost crapped the bed start actually crapping the bed.

Now you're just talking out of your ass..........when was the last time the Big Sky has sent only one team to the play-offs? Has it *ever* happened in the last 20 years?

No, there will be at least 2; probably 3 from the BSC.

[ToTheLeft]

Why? I took a look at their schedule. If they win 2 games, they're in. Who gives a flying crap where they finish in conference man? THAT. DOES. NOT. MATTER. If they have a Big XII win and 7 DI wins, they're in. And that''s what I'm predicting. I don't care where they are right now in the standings. That matters not to me. If that's how you judge playoff teams, then let's put Dayton and Jacksonville in. They haven't lost in conference.

Now you're just talking crazy shit.

I simply don't think a 7-4 NDSU team, that goes only 4-4 in their own conference, even WITh a win over a Big XII team, gets in.

If 3 of those conference losses are to playoff teams, then yes, they would.

I missed where 'conference standings' was in the selection criteria. Can you find it for me? Thanks.

[AZGrizFan]

Now you're just talking crazy shit.

I simply don't think a 7-4 NDSU team, that goes only 4-4 in their own conference, even WITh a win over a Big XII team, gets in.

If 3 of those conference losses are to playoff teams, then yes, they would.

I missed where 'conference standings' was in the selection criteria. Can you find it for me? Thanks.

The question remains: if they're 4-4, how many OTHER teams are above them in the standings?

[webfan]

Pssttt. The Big Sky hasn't been much clearer, and it's possible it could be a 1 team league if teams that have almost crapped the bed start actually crapping the bed.

Now you're just talking out of your ass..........when was the last time the Big Sky has sent only one team to the play-offs? Has it *ever* happened in the last 20 years?

No, there will be at least 2; probably 3 from the BSC.

They'll crucify you on this thread arguing for 3 teams from the BSC. They did me anyway.

[AZGrizFan]

Now you're just talking out of your ass..........when was the last time the Big Sky has sent only one team to the play-offs? Has it *ever* happened in the last 20 years?

No, there will be at least 2; probably 3 from the BSC.

They'll crucify you on this thread arguing for 3 teams from the BSC. They did me anyway.

Interesting, since I made a case for FOUR.

[clenz]

Now you're just talking crazy shit.

I simply don't think a 7-4 NDSU team, that goes only 4-4 in their own conference, even WITh a win over a Big XII team, gets in.

If 3 of those conference losses are to playoff teams, then yes, they would.

I missed where 'conference standings' was in the selection criteria. Can you find it for me? Thanks.

That would mean that 4 MVFC teams get in. That isn't going to happen.

NDSU will not make the playoffs at 7-4. 8-3 there is an outside shot. The fact of the matter is the best they can do is 4-4 in conference. UNI, WIU, ISUR, and SDSU are pretty much all guaranteed to get to 4 conference wins. The Valley will be a one bid league this year. Either UNI wins the league and that means second place finishes with three conference losses and at least 4 overall, or WIU beats UNI to win the autobid, that means every team in the conference, other than WIU, ends up at 4 losses.


NDSU doesn't get in. They won't pick a team that finished 4th or lower in a conference, and not pick the teams a head of them.

[AZGrizFan]

If 3 of those conference losses are to playoff teams, then yes, they would.

I missed where 'conference standings' was in the selection criteria. Can you find it for me? Thanks.

That would mean that 4 MVFC teams get in. That isn't going to happen.

NDSU will not make the playoffs at 7-4. 8-3 there is an outside shot. The fact of the matter is the best they can do is 4-4 in conference. UNI, WIU, ISUR, and SDSU are pretty much all guaranteed to get to 4 conference wins. The Valley will be a one bid league this year. Either UNI wins the league and that means second place finishes with three conference losses and at least 4 overall, or WIU beats UNI to win the autobid, that means every team in the conference, other than WIU, ends up at 4 losses.


NDSU doesn't get in. They won't pick a team that finished 4th or lower in a conference, and not pick the teams a head of them.

Wow. Whodathunkit? Clenz as the MVC voice of reason?

TTL, I rest my case. Or Clenz's case, so to speak.

[Gil Dobie]

Why? I took a look at their schedule. If they win 2 games, they're in. Who gives a flying crap where they finish in conference man? THAT. DOES. NOT. MATTER. If they have a Big XII win and 7 DI wins, they're in. And that''s what I'm predicting. I don't care where they are right now in the standings. That matters not to me. If that's how you judge playoff teams, then let's put Dayton and Jacksonville in. They haven't lost in conference.

Now you're just talking crazy ****.

I simply don't think a 7-4 NDSU team, that goes only 4-4 in their own conference, even WITh a win over a Big XII team, gets in.

If Montana St or NAU end up with 4 losses, their DI record will be 6-4, and if NDSU ends up with 4 losses, they will be 7-4 vs DI opponents. Who does the committee take a 6 win or 7 win team?

[ToTheLeft]

Pssttt. The Big Sky hasn't been much clearer, and it's possible it could be a 1 team league if teams that have almost crapped the bed start actually crapping the bed.

Now you're just talking out of your ass..........when was the last time the Big Sky has sent only one team to the play-offs? Has it *ever* happened in the last 20 years?

No, there will be at least 2; probably 3 from the BSC.

The past doesn't matter. At all. Not one little itty bitty bit.

If Griz lose to Weber and UND, and then beat the Cats, they're not in.

The Cats would then need to beat Weber. If they don't, they're not in.

Then NAU beats Weber, and keeps Weber out, but loses another game, and NAU is out too.

EWU could easily lose to SUU, then a slip up at PSU, and they're out.

If all of those happen, or all but one, then the BSC is a 1 bid league. I doubt the Griz will lose against UND, but I could see Weber winning against The Cats, the Cats losing to Griz, NAU beating Weber, and NAU slipping up against, say, SAC, and all those teams being out. EWU as well, I can see them struggling, especially if something happened to TJ.

So all sorts of jerking off to the history books couldn't save the Big Sky from being a 1 team league if a couple teams crap the bed. And seeing this year unfold, it could happen that way.

Would I bet on it? No. But it could happen. And no amount of history changes that.

[AZGrizFan]

Now you're just talking crazy ****.

I simply don't think a 7-4 NDSU team, that goes only 4-4 in their own conference, even WITh a win over a Big XII team, gets in.

If Montana St or NAU end up with 4 losses, their DI record will be 6-4, and if NDSU ends up with 4 losses, they will be 7-4 vs DI opponents. Who does the committee take a 6 win or 7 win team?

Montana State won't have 4 losses. They'd have to lose 2 of 3 to Weber/ISU/Montana. Not happening.
NAU must win out to have 7, you are correct. But if they DO win out (and there's a very good chance of that), I think they're in as well. So now, who do you take, an 8-3 NAU team (with 7 D-I wins and only 2 conference losses) or a 7-4 NDSU team (with 7 D-I wins, four conference losses, but a I-A win)?