Montana wants FBS opponents, but...

[mlbowl]

Using the term "flagship" certainly implies "most recognizable" and widest "name recognition."

Well then...Villanova it is...mostly due to their basketball prowess...as far as name recognition goes, nobody else in FCS is close! Try taking your blinders off for a second...it's pretty out here in the real world.

[GrizFan5]

Thanks Hen. I've done that same analysis several times over the past 5 years.

[AZGrizFan]

Ahh, dick stretching threads. Always plentiful in the off-season.

This thread is surreal.

You guys got any pics of our stadium?

[Silenoz]

Using the term "flagship" certainly implies "most recognizable" and widest "name recognition."

Well then...Villanova it is...mostly due to their basketball prowess...as far as name recognition goes, nobody else in FCS is close! Try taking your blinders off for a second...it's pretty out here in the real world.

No, I'd say it's between VU and Georgetown or Butler

[putter]

who cares about comparing programs . App certainly has made their mark as has GSU and Montana. The FCS needs more teams stepping up to promote this division, not continue mediocrity. I think it was appropriate to point out that Montana has been trying to find FBS games for the 2011 schedule. How many time has it been thrown out the Montana never plays up etc.etc.etc...? A sh!tload so when someone presents something concrete that the new coach wants to do exactly that but says they have been turned down several times lends credence to what posters here have said. Easier said than done out west.

[89Hen]

App doesn't have a problem finding big-time games. And we have BY FAR the biggest win of an FCS team over an FBS team.

Sounds like a coach speaking to his fanbase's ego, imo.

does it.

Yes

[AZGrizFan]

Michigan only paid ASU $400K. LSU paid ASU $750K. ASU has accepted minimal payouts from Hawaii and Wyoming, so the distance excuse doesn't hold up.

It's not the distance. $750,000 is about the minimum Montana could accept and break even by replacing a home game.

And when the athletic department is in constant financial trouble, every dollar counts.

[89Hen]

119-23 - Montana since 2000
59-10 - Montana through 2005-2009
10 playoff appearances, 1 NC, 5 NC appearances

101-33 - ASU since 2000
61-12 - ASU through 2005-2009
8 playoff appearances, 3 NC, 3 NC appearances

Those are the stats I put together.. Montana is the team of this decade, without question.

You're certainly entitled to your opinion.

Were the Buffalo Bills the team of the early 90's?

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

does it.

Yes

good for you.

[89Hen]

Yes

good for you.

You betcha

[mlbowl]

does it.

Yes

89 or Skjellyfetti...What did Coach Pflugrad say that was so egotistical ???...I've read the article twice...please enlighten this ignoramus

[89Hen]

Yes

89 or Skjellyfetti...What did Coach Pflugrad say that was so egotistical ???...I've read the article twice...please enlighten this ignoramus

Who said HE was egotistical?

[93henfan]

good for you.

You betcha

[mlbowl]

89 or Skjellyfetti...What did Coach Pflugrad say that was so egotistical ???...I've read the article twice...please enlighten this ignoramus

Who said HE was egotistical?

"Sounds like a coach speaking to his fanbase's ego, imo." -Skjellyfetti....Well, how he would accomplish filling all those egos without saying something somewhat egotistical

[Skjellyfetti]

Who said HE was egotistical?

"Sounds like a coach speaking to his fanbase's ego, imo." -Skjellyfetti....Well, how he would accomplish filling all those egos without saying something somewhat egotistical

His FANBASE'S ego.

Is Montana's fanbase egotistical? Yes. Is Appalachian's? Yes. Is any successful program's? Yes. Was Plufgrad, as a new head coach, speaking to his fanbases egotism in this article... yes, imo.

Is Plufgrad egotistical? I dont know... and I never said he was...

[89Hen]

Who said HE was egotistical?

"Sounds like a coach speaking to his fanbase's ego, imo." -Skjellyfetti....Well, how he would accomplish filling all those egos without saying something somewhat egotistical

"They're scared to play us" is a egotistical thing to say.

[mlbowl]

Was Plufgrad, as a new head coach, speaking to his fanbases egotism in this article... yes, imo.

Is Plufgrad egotistical? I dont know... and I never said he was...

...and like I asked before...."as a new head coach", "in this article"..."speaking to his fanbases egotism"...what did he say that was so egotistical?....He had to say something that caught your attention...what was it?

[mlbowl]

"Sounds like a coach speaking to his fanbase's ego, imo." -Skjellyfetti....Well, how he would accomplish filling all those egos without saying something somewhat egotistical

"They're scared to play us" is a egotistical thing to say.

Wow...I expected better from you 89...COACH PFLU NEVER SAID THAT!!! ...Provide me a quote, from the article, where Coach Pflugrad says "They're scared to play us"...just because a couple of our fans interpreted it that way doesn't make it so...

[EWURanger]

What I took away from this article is "Montana won't be playing any FBS teams anytime soon......." Next question.

From a financial stand-point, they don't need to. There can be some benefits to playing an FBS school in terms of media exposure and recruiting depending on how well your team competes, but on the flip side of that being blown-out won't help in that regard either. Schedule two of them in a year, and you are potentially scheduling yourself out of the play-offs unless you have a near-perfect season the rest of the way. EWU did this in 2008 by scheduling Colorado and Texas Tech in the same season. The pay-days were nice and we had a really solid showing in both games, but they were still 2 games in the "L" column.

Bottom line is that I think in the case of Montana the "cons" definitely outweigh the "pros". I don't see it happening anytime soon.

[BearIt]

I truly don't believe that Florida is afraid to play Montana. That was a jab at the multitudes of posters that come out every year saying the Montana is afraid to play FBS schools. As stated by another poster, this article proves that Montana is trying to play FBS, but isn't getting any takers.

I do believe that there are some BCS programs out there that could pony up the cash, but don't want to play Montana. Two that come to mind are Washington State and University of Washington. Although UW should be much better this year than they have been, I still think they would be concerned about the possibilty of what could happen. I really doubt that MWC or WAC schools could offer us enough to make it worth while and I think most of them would prefer to not take the risk of scheduling us.

If the WAC or MWC schools were to do a home and home or a 2 for 1 deal I think the administration would go for it. I really doubt either of those conferences would go for it.

[Silenoz]

UW has also never played an FCS team (that changes this year), so scheduling a game with them was probably not possible up until now

[89Hen]

Wow...I expected better from you 89...COACH PFLU NEVER SAID THAT!!! ...Provide me a quote, from the article, where Coach Pflugrad says "They're scared to play us"...just because a couple of our fans interpreted it that way doesn't make it so...

Your expectations are too high then. I couldn't tell what was article and what was commentary.

[EWURanger]

UW has also never played an FCS team (that changes this year), so scheduling a game with them was probably not possible up until now

EWU will play Washington in 2011, and Washington State in 2012. There is a push by the state to keep the money made from these sort of games in-state. Makes sense, I suppose.

[89Hen]

There is a push by the state to keep the money made from these sort of games in-state. Makes sense, I suppose.

Virginia and South Carolina have both taken that approach. UVA is rotating through Richmond and W&M and USC is rotating through SCSt, Wofford, Furman and El Cid.

[mlbowl]

Wow...I expected better from you 89...COACH PFLU NEVER SAID THAT!!! ...Provide me a quote, from the article, where Coach Pflugrad says "They're scared to play us"...just because a couple of our fans interpreted it that way doesn't make it so...

Your expectations are too high then. I couldn't tell what was article and what was commentary.

Lowered expectations...