expandspanos wrote:Looks great JMU, I am full of envy..What's the capacity after the 1st phase of expansion?
I hope no one actually looked through 300 pics of our stadium.danefan wrote:300 pics of the stadium construction
http://picasaweb.google.com/hittiezm/BridgeforthStadium#
bandl wrote:I hope no one actually looked through 300 pics of our stadium.danefan wrote:300 pics of the stadium construction
http://picasaweb.google.com/hittiezm/BridgeforthStadium#
There's only one stadium in FCS that deserves to be observed at least 300 times in one sitting....
Tricked out? As in neon and black lights?JMUpurplehazed wrote:Post stadium renovation, I gotta believe JMU gets home games in the playoffs especially if they are televised to show off a nice FCS stadium to casual viewers.
The lighting will be TV ready in place of four cranes tricked out with lights...
bandl wrote:Tricked out? As in neon and black lights?JMUpurplehazed wrote:Post stadium renovation, I gotta believe JMU gets home games in the playoffs especially if they are televised to show off a nice FCS stadium to casual viewers.
The lighting will be TV ready in place of four cranes tricked out with lights...
With all the townies we get at home games, that should be kind of grossmcveyrl wrote:bandl wrote: Tricked out? As in neon and black lights?
Cosmic Football
"Aww...Skeeter! I told you not to wear that shirt to the stadium; what with all these fancy lights biloominatin' them stains."bandl wrote:With all the townies we get at home games, that should be kind of grossmcveyrl wrote:
Cosmic Football
Does meth glow under neon lights?mcveyrl wrote:"Aww...Skeeter! I told you not to wear that shirt to the stadium; what with all these fancy lights biloominatin' them stains."bandl wrote:
With all the townies we get at home games, that should be kind of gross
As a non seed vs another non seed yes UNLESS it was ASU or Montana, possibly UD. Call me a pessimist, but I don't think will break 20k avg attendance in the 1st several years. 1st year could sell out 1st game and Parents' weekend.JMUpurplehazed wrote:Post stadium renovation, I gotta believe JMU gets home games in the playoffs especially if they are televised to show off a nice FCS stadium to casual viewers.
The lighting will be TV ready in place of four cranes tricked out with lights...
No, but UV light'll nail em.JMU DJ wrote:Does meth glow under neon lights?mcveyrl wrote:
"Aww...Skeeter! I told you not to wear that shirt to the stadium; what with all these fancy lights biloominatin' them stains."
They dont spend millions without a plan to make it back Joe.BDKJMU wrote:As a non seed vs another non seed yes UNLESS it was ASU or Montana, possibly UD. Call me a pessimist, but I don't think will break 20k avg attendance in the 1st several years.JMUpurplehazed wrote:Post stadium renovation, I gotta believe JMU gets home games in the playoffs especially if they are televised to show off a nice FCS stadium to casual viewers.
The lighting will be TV ready in place of four cranes tricked out with lights...
Plus, in the end, if JMU doesn't bid anything to host playoff games, they won't get any.BDKJMU wrote:As a non seed vs another non seed yes UNLESS it was ASU or Montana, possibly UD. Call me a pessimist, but I don't think will break 20k avg attendance in the 1st several years. 1st year could sell out 1st game and Parents' weekend.JMUpurplehazed wrote:Post stadium renovation, I gotta believe JMU gets home games in the playoffs especially if they are televised to show off a nice FCS stadium to casual viewers.
The lighting will be TV ready in place of four cranes tricked out with lights...
Gotta remember, last 2 playoffs seasons:
07' when capacity was 15k, didn't sell out 3 games, including the 1st home game vs then #5 UNH (14021), homecoming vs UR (14009) and Towson (13,661)
08' when capacity was upped to 15.5k, avg just under 16k for the regular season:
NCCU: 15,518
UMass: 15,747
ASU: 17,163
Hofstra (Parents'): 16,109
UD (HC): 16,810
W&M: 14,330 (only non sellout in regular season)
Only sold out 1 of 3 playoff games- the semis vs Montana. (At least if you're top 12 and get a bye you don't have to play a 1st round game on Thanksgiving weekend when attendance is always down).
A lot of what goes determining financial bids to host is attendance. So I would say that when JMU is a non seed paired up with another non seed, JMU will go from the majority of the time going on the road, to hosting 80-90% of the time.
Over/under word count on BDKJMU's response, 200.
Like I said, come 2011 for at least the next 4-5 years after, if JMU and ASU are paired up, both as non seeds, JMU will still be on the road. Only team east of the Mississippi that JMU definitely won't be able to outbid, not when ASU avg almost 26k regular season last yr.T-Dog wrote:Plus, in the end, if JMU doesn't bid anything to host playoff games, they won't get any.BDKJMU wrote:
As a non seed vs another non seed yes UNLESS it was ASU or Montana, possibly UD. Call me a pessimist, but I don't think will break 20k avg attendance in the 1st several years. 1st year could sell out 1st game and Parents' weekend.
Gotta remember, last 2 playoffs seasons:
07' when capacity was 15k, didn't sell out 3 games, including the 1st home game vs then #5 UNH (14021), homecoming vs UR (14009) and Towson (13,661)
08' when capacity was upped to 15.5k, avg just under 16k for the regular season:
NCCU: 15,518
UMass: 15,747
ASU: 17,163
Hofstra (Parents'): 16,109
UD (HC): 16,810
W&M: 14,330 (only non sellout in regular season)
Only sold out 1 of 3 playoff games- the semis vs Montana. (At least if you're top 12 and get a bye you don't have to play a 1st round game on Thanksgiving weekend when attendance is always down).
A lot of what goes determining financial bids to host is attendance. So I would say that when JMU is a non seed paired up with another non seed, JMU will go from the majority of the time going on the road, to hosting 80-90% of the time.
It'd be really funny if they forgot that, then got pissed when they get sent down the road to Boone again.
Even within conference, though, you wonder if JMU would be able to outbid UD or ODU. JMU's new stadium is only going to be a hair larger than both (JMU's 24.5k versus UD's 22k or ODU's 20k) and both the latter are likely to make incremental additions in the near future (UD's supposed to detail additions to the current stadium this Fall and if ODU keeps the incredible pace of season tix sales then they'll do the same). And bidding is more than just overall attendance, it's still actual money - the reason JMU's been on the road as much as they have has at least partly been due to lowballing the bid - I mean, Lehigh outbid them in '04 somehow and Lehigh's attendance was just so-so.BDKJMU wrote:Like I said, come 2011 for at least the next 4-5 years after, if JMU and ASU are paired up, both as non seeds, JMU will still be on the road. Only team east of the Mississippi that JMU definitely won't be able to outbid, not when ASU avg almost 26k regular season last yr.T-Dog wrote:
Plus, in the end, if JMU doesn't bid anything to host playoff games, they won't get any.
It'd be really funny if they forgot that, then got pissed when they get sent down the road to Boone again.
Yes, and that lowballing was why the administration bid aggressively before knowing we would be seeded in 08. They actually made about $36k from those playoffs which has prompted them to say they will bid in the same way in the future.GannonFan wrote:Even within conference, though, you wonder if JMU would be able to outbid UD or ODU. JMU's new stadium is only going to be a hair larger than both (JMU's 24.5k versus UD's 22k or ODU's 20k) and both the latter are likely to make incremental additions in the near future (UD's supposed to detail additions to the current stadium this Fall and if ODU keeps the incredible pace of season tix sales then they'll do the same). And bidding is more than just overall attendance, it's still actual money - the reason JMU's been on the road as much as they have has at least partly been due to lowballing the bid - I mean, Lehigh outbid them in '04 somehow and Lehigh's attendance was just so-so.
DukeJack wrote: And unless the rules change for conference matchups, why would the ability of UD or ODU being able to buy a home game affect us?
Give me a break about that.T-Dog wrote: Plus, in the end, if JMU doesn't bid anything to host playoff games, they won't get any.
Well, that does ignore the widespread feeling that teams with big attendance and big bids have gotten favorable seedings and matchups in the past to ensure that they have an opportunity to host. It certainly happened a lot in the late 80's and 90's and I wouldn't doubt that it plays a part today. This whole process is very far from transparent, and probably for a reason.BDKJMU wrote:Give me a break about that.T-Dog wrote: Plus, in the end, if JMU doesn't bid anything to host playoff games, they won't get any.
1987' 1st round #7 JMU @ #13 Marshall. Marshall won and went all the way to the NC game. JMU back then was never going to be able to outbid Marshall.
1991' 1st round JMU @ #4 seed UD. JMU won, hosted Samfords in the quarterfinals, lost 24-21, so must have put in a decent bid.
1994' JMU hosted 1st round win over Troy State. Lost @ #2 seed Marshall in OT in the quarterfinals. So JMU must have put in a good bid that yr.
1995' 1st round lost @ #1 seed ASU, so don't know what kind of bid JMU put in that year.
1999' 1st round lost @ Troy State. Don't know what size bid JMU put in, but Troy State announced the next yr they were moving up, so they probably had a big bid.
2004' 1st round JMU won @ Lehigh. Yes, apparently JMU put in a shitty bid. The quarterfinals and semis it didn't matter when JMU won @ #2 seeded Furman and #4 seeded W&M.
2006' 1st round JMU lost @ #4 seed YSU. JMU AD claimed JMU put in a substantial bid, but it didn't matter as JMU was matched up with a seeded YSU.
2007' JMU lost @ ASU. Again JMU AD claimed a substantial bid was made, but as we all know, no one is going to be able to outbid ASU with the possible exception of Montana.
08' JMU was the #1 seed so it didn't matter.
So thats only ONE year we know of that JMU put in a shitty bid, in 04', that definitely cost a home game. And it hasn't happened since, and won't happen again.
