BIG SKY CONF to FBS?!

[BlackFalkin]

I propose....if the big sky teams went fbs individually... they would get eaten alive, but as a conference.... all 9 teams would be able to ride training wheels into fbs [[bc they would have the EXACT same schedules as they have now]] they would automatically be playing fbs team in conference AND WINNING. this leads to eash team slowly getting better recruits, facilities, more media attention and of course.. maximize the school's profits. damn im a great!

90% rule. BlackFalkin is gonna be correct 90% of the time.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

I propose....if the big sky teams went fbs individually... they would get eaten alive, but as a conference.... all 9 teams would be able to ride training wheels into fbs [[bc they would have the EXACT same schedules as they have now]] they would automatically be playing fbs team in conference AND WINNING. this leads to eash team slowly getting better recruits, facilities, more media attention and of course.. maximize the school's profits. damn im a great!

90% rule. BlackFalkin is gonna be correct 90% of the time.

BF, you just so happened to have made that 90% rule during one of the 10% stretches you were going through.

[kemajic]

I doubt it is a feasible option for the entire BSC but it's good discussion material.

It's not even good discussion material. The BSC is not even a strong FCS conference. There are only three of the nine teams that have a .500 record over the last 5 years. The concept of moving up teams that can't keep their head above water in FCS and can't average even 8000 fans, is absurd.

[Fresno St. Alum]

They (Montana) wouldn't get eaten alive in the FBS. If they were in the WAC they'd be 5th outta 10. Maybe 6th if La.Tech or SJSU had a real good year or something.

WTF we play EWU? why? What happened to anyone anywhere anytime? Bastards won't schedule us so we get EWU.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

I doubt it is a feasible option for the entire BSC but it's good discussion material.

It's not even good discussion material. The BSC is not even a strong FCS conference. There are only three of the nine teams that have a .500 record over the last 5 years. The concept of moving up teams that can't keep their head above water in FCS and can't average even 8000 fans, is absurd.

Well whatever you think is fine by me, but it has 30 posts in it with arguments why one guy thinks it could work and others saying why it couldn't and that it's even absurd. A good discussion topic to me is one in which people are discussing something with opposing points of view. Therefore absurd doesn't make it a bad discussion topic in my book.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

They (Montana) wouldn't get eaten alive in the FBS. If they were in the WAC they'd be 5th outta 10. Maybe 6th if La.Tech or SJSU had a real good year or something.

WTF we play EWU? why? What happened to anyone anywhere anytime? Bastards won't schedule us so we get EWU.

Who are you talking about won't schedule you FSA?

[kemajic]

Therefore absurd doesn't make it a bad discussion topic in my book.

Interesting book, no doubt.

[Appaholic]

Never happen....would require Montana to play away games....surely you jest....

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Never happen....would require Montana to play away games....surely you jest....

My friend, I implore you to stop this hackery. I know you to be a smart feller with much more in your tank than this. It's so old and overused that it rarely even gets a response anymore. I responded this time as I feel bad for you when I see you going down this road again. There has got to be some new angle you could take other than our ability to make a comparative shit load of money when we have a home game.

[Appaholic]

Never happen....would require Montana to play away games....surely you jest....

My friend, I implore you to stop this hackery. I know you to be a smart feller with much more in your tank than this. It's so old and overused that it rarely even gets a response anymore. I responded this time as I feel bad for you when I see you going down this road again. There has got to be some new angle you could take other than our ability to make a comparative shit load of money when we have a home game.

Naw....really, I'm empty....pretty pathetic really......nothing to see here............

[AshevilleApp]

Deleted. My question was covered.

[BlackFalkin]

There have been many schools whom have made the jump from FCS to FBS, some successful [Boise state, South Florida] but mostly not so successful[ Nevada, Florida Atlantic]. Now having said that, its well known that one team moving up into a foreign FBS conference from the FCS level is 90% destined for at least 10 years of mediocrity. However if an entire conference became FBS, one could safely assume the conference standings will be very similar to what they have been in the past, despite the jump from FCS to FBS. This allows a team like Montana State to successfully ride the training wheels in to FBS *AND* keep a winning record in tact in the process. Now I know there are alot of you who think "But they will get eaten alive by other FBS teams!" I say, probably not!

MSU usually wins 6 conference games per year, now even after the Big Sky moves to FBS MSU is still playing the same 8 conference teams, so one can also safely assume MSU will win [on average] the same 6 conference games per year. At this point MSU is 6-2 in conference play, which is great, but they have to play 12 reg season games so they need to play four other teams @ the FBS level.
The best solution is one big money game, 2 lower level mid major teams, and one FCS home game. This is well within the growing trend of FBS teams playing FCS games. In 2009 season there are 70 FBS teams with at least one FCS game scheduled, there are lots of FBS teams with two FCS teams scheduled, which shows a growing trend, & a closing gap between the divisions.

So Montana State's schedule would look like this:

WEEK-TEAM-LIKELY OUTCOME
1.Mizzou-Loss
2.Boise St.-Loss
3.Utah St.-Close Win
4.Southern Utah-Win
5.ISU/Conf-Win
6.UNC/Conf-Win
7.PSU/Conf-Win
8.WSU/Conf-Win
9.CSUS/Conf-Win
10.NAU/Conf-Win
11.EWU/Conf-Loss
12.UM/Rival-Loss

Regular Season Results @ FBS level= 8-4

+Increased fan base
+better recruits
+better facilities
+more money to athletic department
+more athletic prestige
+more attention from the national media

[clenz]

There have been many schools whom have made the jump from FCS to FBS, some successful [Boise state, South Florida] but mostly not so successful[ Nevada, Florida Atlantic]. Now having said that, its well known that one team moving up into a foreign FBS conference from the FCS level is 90% destined for at least 10 years of mediocrity. However if an entire conference became FBS, one could safely assume the conference standings will be very similar to what they have been in the past, despite the jump from FCS to FBS. This allows a team like Montana State to successfully ride the training wheels in to FBS *AND* keep a winning record in tact in the process. Now I know there are alot of you who think "But they will get eaten alive by other FBS teams!" I say, probably not!

MSU usually wins 6 conference games per year, now even after the Big Sky moves to FBS MSU is still playing the same 8 conference teams, so one can also safely assume MSU will win [on average] the same 6 conference games per year. At this point MSU is 6-2 in conference play, which is great, but they have to play 12 reg season games so they need to play four other teams @ the FBS level.
The best solution is one big money game, 2 lower level mid major teams, and one FCS home game. This is well within the growing trend of FBS teams playing FCS games. In 2009 season there are 70 FBS teams with at least one FCS game scheduled, there are lots of FBS teams with two FCS teams scheduled, which shows a growing trend, & a closing gap between the divisions.

So Montana State's schedule would look like this:

WEEK-TEAM-LIKELY OUTCOME
1.Mizzou-Loss
2.Boise St.-Loss
3.Utah St.-Close Win
4.Southern Utah-Win
5.ISU/Conf-Win
6.UNC/Conf-Win
7.PSU/Conf-Win
8.WSU/Conf-Win
9.CSUS/Conf-Win
10.NAU/Conf-Win
11.EWU/Conf-Loss
12.UM/Rival-Loss

Regular Season Results @ FBS level= 8-4

+Increased fan base
+better recruits
+better facilities
+more money to athletic department
+more athletic prestige
+more attention from the national media

Then they get to go get beat down by 40 in the Thonrybush.com Insider Pizza Bowl.



This idea is moronic.

[BlackFalkin]

Bowl games... Some company would sponsor a bowl[since according to the ncaa, football/bowl game attendance is soaring even during a recession] and it could be 1st place Big Sky team vs 2nd or third place Sun belt....

This idea is moronic.

No, the idea itself is next to brilliant *AND* true, in theory.

[clenz]

Bowl games... Some company would sponsor a bowl[since according to the ncaa, football/bowl game attendance is soaring even during a recession] and it could be 1st place Big Sky team vs 2nd or third place Sun belt....

This idea is moronic.

No, the idea itself is next to brilliant *AND* true, in theory.

If you feel good about playing a team from the Sun Belt that would struggle to be top 25 fcs...have fun...



Socialism, communism, and Title 9 are also great in theory.

[Montanan]

...Socialism, communism, deregulation and Title 9 are also great in theory.

there now, thats better.

[BlackFalkin]

communism, and Title 9 are also great in theory.

How in the fvck are communism AND ESPECIALLY TITLE 9 great in theory, when title 9 supports womens watered down sports and takes away mens sports? You are a goddamn idiot.. or a feminist douchebag! Can someone give me some real feedback?

[clenz]

communism, and Title 9 are also great in theory.

How in the fvck are communism AND ESPECIALLY TITLE 9 great in theory, when title 9 gives allows womens watered down sports and takes away mens sports? You are a goddamn idiot.. or a feminist douchebag! Can someone give me some real feedback?

No, in theory Title IX is a great idea. If you would get past the obvious downfalls of the implimentation and practice of it you would see that it is indeed good in theory.


I fail to see how giving opportunities to women is a bad thing. The way that Title IX in implimented is horrible, I agree.

[kemajic]

Never happen....would require Montana to play away games....surely you jest....

Like at JMU?

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Never happen....would require Montana to play away games....surely you jest....

Like at JMU?

Hey Appalachian played there too last year! Montana/App. State have a combined record of 1-1 this year at JMU. Appaholic will invariably say that we would not have played there unless forced to by the playoffs while they went there willingly in their OOC schedule. He is nothing if not predictable.

[Appaholic]

Like at JMU?

Hey Appalachian played there too last year! Montana/App. State have a combined record of 1-1 this year at JMU. Appaholic will invariably say that we would not have played there unless forced to by the playoffs while they went there willingly in their OOC schedule. He is nothing if not predictable.

Bingo!..btw, ya'll make nice bridesmaids...experience counts I guess.....it's noble that you've accepted being the bitch so many times in the NC games...

[BlackFalkin]

...ya'll make nice bridesmaids....it's noble that you've accepted being the bitch so many times in the NC games...

damn...

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Hey Appalachian played there too last year! Montana/App. State have a combined record of 1-1 this year at JMU. Appaholic will invariably say that we would not have played there unless forced to by the playoffs while they went there willingly in their OOC schedule. He is nothing if not predictable.

Bingo!..btw, ya'll make nice bridesmaids...experience counts I guess.....it's noble that you've accepted being the bitch so many times in the NC games...

I'd rather win em' for sure but I'll take the second place finish over every other spot left on the board. It was a rough year for you though getting taken out at home like that. I know it had to be because you've made such a big deal about it in the past.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

...ya'll make nice bridesmaids....it's noble that you've accepted being the bitch so many times in the NC games...

damn...I wish we had the opportunity to get there at least once in my lifetime, or anyone's lifetime for that matter.

I know BF, it does suck that you may never know the feeling but maybe someday your team will have a shot at the title. Not likely but it is possible.

[Appaholic]

Bingo!..btw, ya'll make nice bridesmaids...experience counts I guess.....it's noble that you've accepted being the bitch so many times in the NC games...

I'd rather win em' for sure but I'll take the second place finish over every other spot left on the board.

That's good you feel this way (as if you have a choice in the matter)...guess you can get used to anything...like winning consecutive, multiple national titles......or being happy and satisfied with yet another bridesmaid outing.....