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How is the Hornet secondary not in the conversation for worst in the BSC? :?

And our uber-soft schedule will definitely have us (or at least should have us) in the top half of the standings by the end of the season even with all the turmoil that happened a few months ago. Sears is jizzing in his shorts at the thought of a nice contract awaiting his signature at the end of this gift horse season. :|
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SDHornet wrote:How is the Hornet secondary not in the conversation for worst in the BSC? :?
Well… they were definitely in the conversation, they just didn't win it. ;)
And our uber-soft schedule will definitely have us (or at least should have us) in the top half of the standings by the end of the season even with all the turmoil that happened a few months ago. Sears is jizzing in his shorts at the thought of a nice contract awaiting his signature at the end of this gift horse season. :|
Sears definitely inherited a better personnel situation in Sacto than he did at Weber. McBride happened to retire at a perfect time for him & a lousy time for his successor(s).
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MTfan4life wrote:
kalm wrote: :suspicious:

It's tough to tell right now who the toughest teams in the middle of the pack are. Davis and SUU should both be decent teams but play absolutely brutal schedules. I think between those two schools and MSU, PSU, Sac, and NAU it's a toss up. Other than getting the Griz at home, our next 4 toughest conference games are all on the road (NAU, SUU, Davis, PSU). Hardly any more cozy on paper than the Griz's schedule.
NAU got sent to the cleaners and came out with basically an entirely new roster. With the exception of their quarterback, they lose a TON from last season, especially on the defensive side. Southern Utah took quite a hit as well. In the preseason, it's all just hearsay, but in my opinion, not playing Montana State, Cal Poly, or Sac State in conference is a definite advantage. Pretty similar to what Poly had in 2012 for a conference schedule.

Comparison of the teams only one of the two mentioned schools play:
UM - SAC, MSU, Poly, EWU
EWU - PSU, NAU, ISU, UM

The top line of teams looks a lot more intimidating than the bottom line.

I'm not saying Eastern will be better than Montana simply because of their schedules. I'm simply saying their schedule is not as tough as some of the other schools in the conference. Eastern is by far the most dominant team coming into the season. Montana's defense was already suspect last season. Losing multiple all-americans definitely doesn't help.
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I think UNC has enough talent to get to .500. That's IF our young talent develops. The QB position is an interesting one. Seth Lobato was a good QB for the Bears but he was completely one dimensional, and he was no threat to tuck the ball in and run. All defenses had to do is put their db's back and wait for him to throw picks, and he did a lot of those. Now the Bears have two dual-threat QB's competing for the starting gig. Brock Berglund - a top 20 dual threat QB coming out of high school and Sean Rubalcaba - Colorado All-State and Denver Post Golden Helmet Winner.

On defense we've shored up a poor secondary that was riddled with injury last season. We got a JuCo db who had offers from UNLV and Idaho to help out. We also have a new DC who has experience at the FBS level. My biggest concern though is at the LB position. Dominick Sierra is back after sitting out for a season and that will help with experience.
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I really think that the QB position for the Bobcats is going to surprise people (in a good way). With the O-line, RB depth, and WR we have, it could turn out to be a very good year. On the Defensive side, our front 7 will be one of the best in the league. With Singleton and Naa both healthy, it is going to be tough to score on us (unless your QB can throw farther than 15-20 yards). I have absolutely no faith in the secondary, never have really.
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Beardown wrote:I think UNC has enough talent to get to .500.
Every year is going to be UNC's breakout year. Two years ago you were 5-6 and thought you'd turned the corner. Last year? 1-11. If UNC has 4 wins this year it'll be an effin' miracle.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
Beardown wrote:I think UNC has enough talent to get to .500.
Every year is going to be UNC's breakout year. Two years ago you were 5-6 and thought you'd turned the corner. Last year? 1-11. If UNC has 4 wins this year it'll be an effin' miracle.
And Beardown/BSB/etc is always the most delusional homer about it. :nod:
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Grizalltheway wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Every year is going to be UNC's breakout year. Two years ago you were 5-6 and thought you'd turned the corner. Last year? 1-11. If UNC has 4 wins this year it'll be an effin' miracle.
And Beardown/BSB/etc is always the most delusional homer about it. :nod:
HOW DARE YOU...I will NOT sit here and listen to a GRIZ FAN say someone is a "delusional homer" unless that person is a BOBCAT FAN. You are cheating on our rivalry, and unless you bring up the Cats record against the friz the past 5-10-200 years, this will be the last you hear from me. The least you could do is post a picture of a bunch of Bobcat fans walking away from the CAT/griz game in the third quarter. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
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SACCAT wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
And Beardown/BSB/etc is always the most delusional homer about it. :nod:
HOW DARE YOU...I will NOT sit here and listen to a GRIZ FAN say someone is a "delusional homer" unless that person is a BOBCAT FAN. You are cheating on our rivalry, and unless you bring up the Cats record against the friz the past 5-10-200 years, this will be the last you hear from me. The least you could do is post a picture of a bunch of Bobcat fans walking away from the CAT/griz game in the third quarter. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
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  • 1. Eastern Washington__8-0____11-1_____ Will the Adams-to-Kupp alley-oop train keep on rolling?
    2. Montana _____________7-1____11-1_____ Even if they don't win the coin flips, the Griz should be in the playoffs
    3. Montana State _______6-2_____8-4_____ The borderline Bobcats hope to be playing Thanksgiving weekend
    4. Sacramento State ___ 5-3_____8-4 _____ Davis likely costs the Hornets a playoff spot
    5. Portland State_______ 5-3_____7-5_____ Discipline is always the question for the Viks, not talent
    6. Cal Poly _____________5-3_____7-5_____ Offense looks good, defense & special teams not so much
    7. Northern Arizona ____5-3_____7-5_____ The 'Jacks come on strong late… after they're already out of it
    8. Idaho State __________3-5_____5-7_____ "Mediocre" is a vast improvement for the Kramers
    9. Southern Utah _______2-6_____2-10____ Suutah's most daunting opponent this season is Reality Check Tech
    10.North Dakota _______2-6_____3-9_____ NoDak may actually be the worst team on paper, but their coaching looks promising
    11.UC Davis ___________ 2-6_____3-8_____ They don't play most of the crappier teams, so the Aggies aren't really this bad
    12.Weber State__________2-6_____2-10____ It seems like forever since McBride was coach, doesnt it Weber fans?
    13.Northern Colorado___0-8_____1-10____ Massive personnel losses aren't helpful for a team in desperate need of momentum

Im going to make a prediction, and it may or may not come to fruition, but within at least 5 years Jay Hill will get Weber State back to the playoffs :nod: If given the time to do so.
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SACCAT wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
And Beardown/BSB/etc is always the most delusional homer about it. :nod:
HOW DARE YOU...I will NOT sit here and listen to a GRIZ FAN say someone is a "delusional homer" unless that person is a BOBCAT FAN. You are cheating on our rivalry, and unless you bring up the Cats record against the friz the past 5-10-200 years, this will be the last you hear from me. The least you could do is post a picture of a bunch of Bobcat fans walking away from the CAT/griz game in the third quarter. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
C'mon baby, this NoCo thing is just a meaningless fling. You know you'll always be our bottom bitch. :kisswink:
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Grizalltheway wrote:
SACCAT wrote:
HOW DARE YOU...I will NOT sit here and listen to a GRIZ FAN say someone is a "delusional homer" unless that person is a BOBCAT FAN. You are cheating on our rivalry, and unless you bring up the Cats record against the friz the past 5-10-200 years, this will be the last you hear from me. The least you could do is post a picture of a bunch of Bobcat fans walking away from the CAT/griz game in the third quarter. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
C'mon baby, this NoCo thing is just a meaningless fling. You know you'll always be our bottom bitch. :kisswink:

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OH...And the Cats go 10-2. We win all our home games (7) and go 3-2 on the road with losses to Arkansas State and Cal Poly.
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MTfan4life wrote:
Mvemjsunpx wrote:
  • 1. Eastern Washington__8-0____11-1_____ Will the Adams-to-Kupp alley-oop train keep on rolling?
    2. Montana _____________7-1____11-1_____ Even if they don't win the coin flips, the Griz should be in the playoffs
    3. Montana State _______6-2_____8-4_____ The borderline Bobcats hope to be playing Thanksgiving weekend
    4. Sacramento State ___ 5-3_____8-4 _____ Davis likely costs the Hornets a playoff spot
    5. Portland State_______ 5-3_____7-5_____ Discipline is always the question for the Viks, not talent
    6. Cal Poly _____________5-3_____7-5_____ Offense looks good, defense & special teams not so much
    7. Northern Arizona ____5-3_____7-5_____ The 'Jacks come on strong late… after they're already out of it
    8. Idaho State __________3-5_____5-7_____ "Mediocre" is a vast improvement for the Kramers
    9. Southern Utah _______2-6_____2-10____ Suutah's most daunting opponent this season is Reality Check Tech
    10.North Dakota _______2-6_____3-9_____ NoDak may actually be the worst team on paper, but their coaching looks promising
    11.UC Davis ___________ 2-6_____3-8_____ They don't play most of the crappier teams, so the Aggies aren't really this bad
    12.Weber State__________2-6_____2-10____ It seems like forever since McBride was there, doesn't it Weber fans?
    13.Northern Colorado___0-8_____1-10____ Massive personnel losses aren't helpful for a team in desperate need of momentum
The Griz going 4-0 with their non-conference schedule? That's bold. AGS would burn to the ground if this was stated on there.

As has been the case since the conference expanded, the Griz will once again have one of the toughest in-conference schedules. Eastern gets a cozy conference schedule avoiding Cal Poly, MSU, and Sac State. The kittens have a brutal road schedule, but a cake home slate. Much like what happens in the CAA, the varying schedules will definitely play a major factor in the conference positioning this season. It should be an interesting year though!
You must have missed it where we play Montana and MSU every year, and have played CP in each of the past 3 years.
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Little bit of homerism here, but I think Eastern's secondary has the potential to be the best in the conference. With two former Pac-12 starters and some guys who got a lot of experience last year, it should be a very good unit.
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EWURanger wrote:Little bit of homerism here, but I think Eastern's secondary has the potential to be the best in the conference. With two former Pac-12 starters and some guys who got a lot of experience last year, it should be a very good unit.
:+1:

Tevin McDonald and Jordan Tonani have to be the most talented safety tandem in the Big Sky, and one of the best in FCS. Wadood (ASU transfer) should definitely help out at CB, but the position is still definitely an unknown.
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EWURanger wrote:
MTfan4life wrote:
The Griz going 4-0 with their non-conference schedule? That's bold. AGS would burn to the ground if this was stated on there.

As has been the case since the conference expanded, the Griz will once again have one of the toughest in-conference schedules. Eastern gets a cozy conference schedule avoiding Cal Poly, MSU, and Sac State. The kittens have a brutal road schedule, but a cake home slate. Much like what happens in the CAA, the varying schedules will definitely play a major factor in the conference positioning this season. It should be an interesting year though!
You must have missed it where we play Montana and MSU every year, and have played CP in each of the past 3 years.
WRONG. You play Montana and PSU every year. MSU plays Montana and UND every year.
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SACCAT wrote:OH...And the Cats go 10-2. We win all our home games (7) and go 3-2 on the road with losses to Arkansas State and Cal Poly.
Holy shit, how did I miss this?

Any amount of money...ANY amount you want that you don't win 10 games.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
EWURanger wrote:
You must have missed it where we play Montana and MSU every year, and have played CP in each of the past 3 years.
WRONG. You play Montana and PSU every year. MSU plays Montana and UND every year.
For our two "rivalry" games, you are correct...UM and PSU. However, MSU and EWU have agreed to play each other in the years where we don't have the conference game scheduled. I've heard our AD say as much in interviews. That's the case this year; it's not a conference game.
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Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
EWURanger wrote:Little bit of homerism here, but I think Eastern's secondary has the potential to be the best in the conference. With two former Pac-12 starters and some guys who got a lot of experience last year, it should be a very good unit.
:+1:

Tevin McDonald and Jordan Tonani have to be the most talented safety tandem in the Big Sky, and one of the best in FCS. Wadood (ASU transfer) should definitely help out at CB, but the position is still definitely an unknown.
We'll see what Tonani's health is like going into the year, but even without him I think it's a highly under-rated unit going into the season. A healthy McDonald, Raines, etc. etc. will make all the difference in the world. That's what hurt us late last season...or at least made some games closer than they needed to be, up until the Towson game. :oops:
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AZGrizFan wrote:
EWURanger wrote:
You must have missed it where we play Montana and MSU every year, and have played CP in each of the past 3 years.
WRONG. You play Montana and PSU every year. MSU plays Montana and UND every year.
We've played MSU every year since we joined the BSC, and this year and next year we still play them, even if it's non-conference. And we've scheduled SHSU and UNI for H&H's, so it's not like we're shying away from competition. :coffee:
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Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
WRONG. You play Montana and PSU every year. MSU plays Montana and UND every year.
We've played MSU every year since we joined the BSC, and this year and next year we still play them, even if it's non-conference. And we've scheduled SHSU and UNI for H&H's, so it's not like we're shying away from competition. :coffee:
Agreed. Not counting MSU. :lol:
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EWURanger wrote:
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote: :+1:

Tevin McDonald and Jordan Tonani have to be the most talented safety tandem in the Big Sky, and one of the best in FCS. Wadood (ASU transfer) should definitely help out at CB, but the position is still definitely an unknown.
We'll see what Tonani's health is like going into the year, but even without him I think it's a highly under-rated unit going into the season. A healthy McDonald, Raines, etc. etc. will make all the difference in the world. That's what hurt us late last season...or at least made some games closer than they needed to be, up until the Towson game. :oops:
Still, you guys lost T.J. Lee & more from a pass defense that was already pretty weak last year.
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Mvemjsunpx wrote:
EWURanger wrote:
We'll see what Tonani's health is like going into the year, but even without him I think it's a highly under-rated unit going into the season. A healthy McDonald, Raines, etc. etc. will make all the difference in the world. That's what hurt us late last season...or at least made some games closer than they needed to be, up until the Towson game. :oops:
Still, you guys lost T.J. Lee & more from a pass defense that was already pretty weak last year.
It was weak because we were without our top 4 Safeties at various points in the year. We had guys playing out of position quite a bit towards the end of the season, to include moving Lee from CB to safety. On paper, EWU should have the most talented secondary in the BSC, hands-down. Whether or not they can stay healthy is what's in question.
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Grizalltheway wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Every year is going to be UNC's breakout year. Two years ago you were 5-6 and thought you'd turned the corner. Last year? 1-11. If UNC has 4 wins this year it'll be an effin' miracle.
And Beardown/BSB/etc is always the most delusional homer about it. :nod:
I didn't necessarily say we will have a breakout year. I'm only saying we have the talent to be .500. That being said, our biggest weakness is coaching and that is the only thing I think that will keep us from being around .500
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