Forcier to Montana?

[EWURanger]

...On another note, for the UM folks, is MIddleton still at Montana, and how is he working out? I know people were excited when he transferred from UW....

he's still listed on the roster, but really don't know his current status. what you saw of MR. Middleton at the Griz/Eags game pretty much answers your question.

...Pflu doesn't seem to be averse to bring in a lot of drop-downs.

based on what, one short recruiting season and pre-LOI signing day board fodder?

Wasn't smacking, it just seems like he brought in a lot of transfers (Moutra, Middleton, Duncan, Lapan, Riggio, amongst others).

You could be right, this might have had a lot to do with the new staff getting into the recruiting process a little late last year.

And BTW, I don't necessarily think bringing in transfers is a bad thing, unless they have a lot of baggage that coaches overlook because of the potential talent they bring in. If it's a PT thing and there's a spot open that there's a need in, then I think it can be a good thing. Looks like EWU is bringing in at least a couple kids from UW this spring, hopefully they work out and end up being solid contributors - although traditionally EWU has always been a program that recruits kids out of HS (many of who are over-looked) and develops them within the system, and I hope that won't change. Gives the program a better sense of identity, IMO.

[native]

I didn't think he met Montana's minimum requirements until he ran afoul of the law? If griz are willing to take him only on the basis of his poor grades but without an arrest record, they've obviously relaxed their standards under the new regime....

But, but, but ...they're all innocent, aren't they? ...

[native]

At least with the Forciers you get an active parent for the booster club!

[Montanan]

he's still listed on the roster, but really don't know his current status. what you saw of MR. Middleton at the Griz/Eags game pretty much answers your question.



based on what, one short recruiting season and pre-LOI signing day board fodder?

Wasn't smacking, it just seems like he brought in a lot of transfers (Moutra, Middleton, Duncan, Lapan, Riggio, amongst others).

You could be, right, this might have had a lot to do with the new staff getting into the recruiting process a little late last year.

And BTW, I don't necessarily think bringing in transfers is a bad thing, unless they have a lot of baggage that coaches overlook because of the potential talent they bring in. If it's a PT thing and there's a spot open that there's a need in, then I think it can be a good thing. Looks like EWU is bringing in at least a couple kids from UW this spring, hopefully they work out and end up being solid contributors - although traditionally EWU has always been a program that recruits kids out of HS (many of who are over-looked) and develops them within the system, and I hope that won't change. Gives the program a better sense of identity, IMO.

in the long run you may end up being right, Coach Pflugrad may bring in a lot of drop-downs. just thought one short recruiting class wasn't enough time to base an informed opinion.

[clenz]

I don't think Forcier will be back at UM.

He sent out a series of tweets tonight about learning to be humble and what not almost like a "final goodbye"

Just a couple minutes after those were posted Michigan DT Mike Martin simply tweeted "goBLUEorgoHOME"

[amadocjr]

seems like this is going to happen real soon many rumors on ESPN
http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/i ... g-michigan" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[BlackFalkin]

So twitter is the official source of everything... huh fags?

[Silenoz]

So twitter is the official source of everything... huh fags?

Well when the players uses it as his "press release", yes

(in that he is leaving, no mention of where yet)

[BlueBandit]

All innocent

[BlackFalkin]

So twitter is the official source of everything... huh fags?

Well when the players uses it as his "press release", yes

(in that he is leaving, no mention of where yet)

"Its time to go" is a press release? That shxt is so vague. You idiots are just bored & reading too much into this.

[Silenoz]

For him, apparently

[Big McLargehuge]

he's still listed on the roster, but really don't know his current status. what you saw of MR. Middleton at the Griz/Eags game pretty much answers your question.



based on what, one short recruiting season and pre-LOI signing day board fodder?

Wasn't smacking, it just seems like he brought in a lot of transfers (Moutra, Middleton, Duncan, Lapan, Riggio, amongst others).

You could be right, this might have had a lot to do with the new staff getting into the recruiting process a little late last year.

And BTW, I don't necessarily think bringing in transfers is a bad thing, unless they have a lot of baggage that coaches overlook because of the potential talent they bring in. If it's a PT thing and there's a spot open that there's a need in, then I think it can be a good thing. Looks like EWU is bringing in at least a couple kids from UW this spring, hopefully they work out and end up being solid contributors - although traditionally EWU has always been a program that recruits kids out of HS (many of who are over-looked) and develops them within the system, and I hope that won't change. Gives the program a better sense of identity, IMO.

When you change a system as dramatically as Pflugrad did, bringing in a Pac-10 style spread to a roster full of Hauck pro-style system a bevy of recruits is to be expected. Most drop downs have issues, and there is always that question.

If Forcier ends up in Montana I don't know how I'd feel...we'd be getting a great recruit, but he will have to improve both academically and athletically...to say nothing of his family's tradition of transferring when things get foggy. You just have to be careful with those drop-downs, as the issues can often overtake talent...Middleton was about as visible as a phantom this season and he was a 5 star recruit at one point, he took the drop-down as a walk in the park, as he took his initial gig at Washington...who even knows if he's in the plans next year at this point.

I'm not against going for drop-downs, but there is definitely a feeling of pride when its a recruited kid that does well that just isn't there when its a transfer...but if we do get Forcier and he leads us to something then...well...I could care less what he did in the past.

I doubt there will be as many transfers in this year's class at Montana as there was last year...both in and out. When you change a system that drastically its only natural. We lost a ton of kids with the coaching chance last year and Pflugrad didn't have the entire recruiting period to work with...so transfers were just going to be natural...some were going to be hits (Moutra) and some were going to be misses (Middleton). I hope the ratio will be smaller than it was this past year, and its hard to imagine it won't be once Pflu has 'his' players starting...but as long as we're getting good players who want to play here I could care less of their background, really...just cull the criminals as much as possible, please.

I haven't posted much lately, so I feel obligated to give a congrats to our Big Sky cohorts in winning the National Championship. Its great to get the title back in the Big Sky.

[NCAAjunkie]

Take him. Please.

[AlwaysAGriz]

Take him. Please.

[EWURanger]

Wasn't smacking, it just seems like he brought in a lot of transfers (Moutra, Middleton, Duncan, Lapan, Riggio, amongst others).

You could be right, this might have had a lot to do with the new staff getting into the recruiting process a little late last year.

And BTW, I don't necessarily think bringing in transfers is a bad thing, unless they have a lot of baggage that coaches overlook because of the potential talent they bring in. If it's a PT thing and there's a spot open that there's a need in, then I think it can be a good thing. Looks like EWU is bringing in at least a couple kids from UW this spring, hopefully they work out and end up being solid contributors - although traditionally EWU has always been a program that recruits kids out of HS (many of who are over-looked) and develops them within the system, and I hope that won't change. Gives the program a better sense of identity, IMO.

When you change a system as dramatically as Pflugrad did, bringing in a Pac-10 style spread to a roster full of Hauck pro-style system a bevy of recruits is to be expected. Most drop downs have issues, and there is always that question.

If Forcier ends up in Montana I don't know how I'd feel...we'd be getting a great recruit, but he will have to improve both academically and athletically...to say nothing of his family's tradition of transferring when things get foggy. You just have to be careful with those drop-downs, as the issues can often overtake talent...Middleton was about as visible as a phantom this season and he was a 5 star recruit at one point, he took the drop-down as a walk in the park, as he took his initial gig at Washington...who even knows if he's in the plans next year at this point.

I'm not against going for drop-downs, but there is definitely a feeling of pride when its a recruited kid that does well that just isn't there when its a transfer...but if we do get Forcier and he leads us to something then...well...I could care less what he did in the past.

I doubt there will be as many transfers in this year's class at Montana as there was last year...both in and out. When you change a system that drastically its only natural. We lost a ton of kids with the coaching chance last year and Pflugrad didn't have the entire recruiting period to work with...so transfers were just going to be natural...some were going to be hits (Moutra) and some were going to be misses (Middleton). I hope the ratio will be smaller than it was this past year, and its hard to imagine it won't be once Pflu has 'his' players starting...but as long as we're getting good players who want to play here I could care less of their background, really...just cull the criminals as much as possible, please.

I haven't posted much lately, so I feel obligated to give a congrats to our Big Sky cohorts in winning the National Championship. Its great to get the title back in the Big Sky.

Points well taken. I know Montana has had some really good players that were transfers over the years. Chambers sticks out. A lot of people knocked him early in the season, but I think a really good example of a kid just wanting a fresh start is Bo Levi Mitchell. I was a big fan of his all year long, even when he was atrocious at times, but it just seemed like he would make a play every time the game was on the line.

Bottom line is I think anytime a program takes a transfer in they're assuming some amount of risk, whether that's performance related or something to do with some other reason the kid might have left. But I think that even with some of the kids who have had "issues", sometimes those kid will thrive in a new environment and with a fresh start.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

When you change a system as dramatically as Pflugrad did, bringing in a Pac-10 style spread to a roster full of Hauck pro-style system a bevy of recruits is to be expected. Most drop downs have issues, and there is always that question.

If Forcier ends up in Montana I don't know how I'd feel...we'd be getting a great recruit, but he will have to improve both academically and athletically...to say nothing of his family's tradition of transferring when things get foggy. You just have to be careful with those drop-downs, as the issues can often overtake talent...Middleton was about as visible as a phantom this season and he was a 5 star recruit at one point, he took the drop-down as a walk in the park, as he took his initial gig at Washington...who even knows if he's in the plans next year at this point.

I'm not against going for drop-downs, but there is definitely a feeling of pride when its a recruited kid that does well that just isn't there when its a transfer...but if we do get Forcier and he leads us to something then...well...I could care less what he did in the past.

I doubt there will be as many transfers in this year's class at Montana as there was last year...both in and out. When you change a system that drastically its only natural. We lost a ton of kids with the coaching chance last year and Pflugrad didn't have the entire recruiting period to work with...so transfers were just going to be natural...some were going to be hits (Moutra) and some were going to be misses (Middleton). I hope the ratio will be smaller than it was this past year, and its hard to imagine it won't be once Pflu has 'his' players starting...but as long as we're getting good players who want to play here I could care less of their background, really...just cull the criminals as much as possible, please.

I haven't posted much lately, so I feel obligated to give a congrats to our Big Sky cohorts in winning the National Championship. Its great to get the title back in the Big Sky.

Points well taken. I know Montana has had some really good players that were transfers over the years. Chambers sticks out. A lot of people knocked him early in the season, but I think a really good example of a kid just wanting a fresh start is Bo Levi Mitchell. I was a big fan of his all year long, even when he was atrocious at times, but it just seemed like he would make a play every time the game was on the line.

Bottom line is I think anytime a program takes a transfer in they're assuming some amount of risk, whether that's performance related or something to do with some other reason the kid might have left. But I think that even with some of the kids who have had "issues", sometimes those kid will thrive in a new environment and with a fresh start.

Well said on both of your parts. If the new teammates, THE PLAYER, and to a lesser extent the community are willing to move forward then it can work out well for all concerned. If not then old habits are easy to fall back into when it's a character problem.

[clenz]

It seems unlikely he will end up in Missoula

The University of Montana football team has an opening at quarterback. Former Michigan quarterback Tate Forcier is looking for a team — but apparently Montana isn't on his list.

The Missoulian reported this week that Forcier had visited the UM campus and was considering joining the team for the 2010-11 season, but a Montana athletic department official said Monday that that scenario is doubtful and that the quarterback will likely play his remaining two eligible years at a school in the Football Bowl Subdivision.

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[Willie]

I wonder what makes the Kaimin think there's an opening at QB. I don't think Pflu blew our freshman's redshirt last season for nothing...oh wait he probably did.

[Silenoz]

I wonder what makes the Kaimin think there's an opening at QB. I don't think Pflu blew our freshman's redshirt last season for nothing...oh wait he probably did.

Need for a backup. Zapata was written off, and Kemp and Larson were converted to skill positions. If Roper had gone down we'd be down to one QB who had about 3 snaps worth of experience, and weighs about 160 pounds.

[Catattack]

Need for a backup. Zapata was written off, and Kemp and Larson were converted to skill positions. If Roper had gone down we'd be down to one QB who had about 3 snaps worth of experience, and weighs about 160 pounds.

Is that QB from Kalispell still around ?

[Willie]

Need for a backup. Zapata was written off, and Kemp and Larson were converted to skill positions. If Roper had gone down we'd be down to one QB who had about 3 snaps worth of experience, and weighs about 160 pounds.

Is that QB from Kalispell still around ?

Osweiler?

[Catattack]

No, the other one.


Shay Smithwick-Hann. I see he is on the inactive list.

[SouthDakotaGrizzly]

No, the other one.


Shay Smithwick-Hann. I see he is on the inactive list.

I think he is, but most indications, even before he verballed to UM, were that he would eventually be moved to TE.

[DSUrocks07]

I know that this is off-topic, being that this thread has turned into a "State of the Griz" thread, but apparently he's name dropping a bunch of schools just to see who bites, funny that he mentioned two MEAC schools tho (SC State and FAMU) Not sure of the reasoning.

[NCAAjunkie]

Joe Schad tweeted awhile ago that schools Forcier is considering include South Carolina State and Florida A&M

Also he said Montana is still in there. Forcier will be visiting as early as Saturday".