Playoff Field

[CAA Flagship]

Anyone know what your school's bid is for the home games?

Won't know until after next week.

No inside info? I know ours, but not at liberty to say. My understanding is that they are historically proportional with a little extra. But I don't know what the bids were historically. Anyone have any info on that?

[grizzaholic]

Won't know until after next week.

No inside info? I know ours, but not at liberty to say. My understanding is that they are historically proportional with a little extra. But I don't know what the bids were historically. Anyone have any info on that?

Oh, previous years. I will take a look, but I am sure one of the other Griz fans would have those numbers on hand.

[danefan]

Anyone know what your school's bid is for the home games?

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[DSUrocks07]

Anyone know what your school's bid is for the home games?

$0

Same here $0

[SeattleGriz]

God, according to nobowls.com can you imagine the chaos that would ensue of Cats/Griz played in the 2nd round.. I think the world would come to a screeching halt.

I was wondering that same scenario, but when Montana wins The Brawl. We could see MSU in Missoula for the quarterfinals.

[SeattleGriz]

Anyone know what your school's bid is for the home games?

If they charge $25 per ticket and sell 18,000 tickets = $450,000.

I think the NCAA and the school get to split the pot, so my guess would be Montana would bid around $225,000 to $250,000.

Obviously, I am pulling that out of my arse, but don't believe Montana has ever been outbid for a game.

[danefan]

Anyone know what your school's bid is for the home games?

If they charge $25 per ticket and sell 18,000 tickets = $450,000.

I think the NCAA and the school get to split the pot, so my guess would be Montana would bid around $225,000 to $250,000.

Obviously, I am pulling that out of my arse, but don't believe Montana has ever been outbid for a game.

NCAA gets the greater of 75% of the gate or the amount bid by the team.

Minimum bids for the rounds are as follows:

First round—$30,000
Second round—$30,000
Quarterfinal—$40,000
Semifinal—$50,000

So I assume Montana will likely always win the bid as 75% of the gate will likely be somewhere in the $100k range anyway.

[tstidm1]

It makes sense why Nobowls.com and the Sports Network would put Towson as a road team in the first round. We simply don't have a big enough stadium and don't fill it to out bid Appalachain State for a home game. My goodness that is a crazy system I must say for determining home field in the playoffs.

[∞∞∞]

The way our AD has talked about hosting playoff games, I have a gut feeling ODU outbid almost every team except for Montana (yes, even Appy and JMU). I think this early in our program's history, everyone here feels it's ok to lose a chunk of money if it'll give us a competitive advantage to reach the National Championship.

CAAFlagship might know more though. He'd probably confirm my suspicions.

[SeattleGriz]

NCAA gets the greater of 75% of the gate or the amount bid by the team.

Minimum bids for the rounds are as follows:

First round—$30,000
Second round—$30,000
Quarterfinal—$40,000
Semifinal—$50,000

So I assume Montana will likely always win the bid as 75% of the gate will likely be somewhere in the $100k range anyway.

75% of gate ($25 per ticket) for the 2009 games played at Montana:

SDSU (19,197) = $360K
SFA (22,438) = $420K
APP (24,207) = $450K

[CAA Flagship]

If they charge $25 per ticket and sell 18,000 tickets = $450,000.

I think the NCAA and the school get to split the pot, so my guess would be Montana would bid around $225,000 to $250,000.

Obviously, I am pulling that out of my arse, but don't believe Montana has ever been outbid for a game.

NCAA gets the greater of 75% of the gate or the amount bid by the team.

Minimum bids for the rounds are as follows:

First round—$30,000
Second round—$30,000
Quarterfinal—$40,000
Semifinal—$50,000

So I assume Montana will likely always win the bid as 75% of the gate will likely be somewhere in the $100k range anyway.

I am assuming that the minimum bids for this year is the same, or very close to last year. Does anyone know what the winning bids were for any of the teams last year?

Here's what I know. I know that we could only bid through the first three rounds. I didn't ask my source what the ticket price would be but he said that no free tickets are allowed for students per the NCAA. Old Dominion will subsidize the cost of the student tickets but they don't know to what percentage yet and they don't know how many tickets will be dedicated to students. The 75% of the gate is a difficult one for many schools to justify after the cost of the bid. Like many of you have experienced, I am not expecting a sellout crowd for a home playoff game, even though we have sold out all of our regular season games during the first three years. If you factor in the cost of the bid, the 75% take, and the cost of game day (cops, set up crews, clean up crews, etc.), it may take at least $350,000 in ticket revenue to make this work (That's 14,000 fans at $25 each).

[SeattleGriz]

I am assuming that the minimum bids for this year is the same, or very close to last year. Does anyone know what the winning bids were for any of the teams last year?

Here's what I know. I know that we could only bid through the first three rounds. I didn't ask my source what the ticket price would be but he said that no free tickets are allowed for students per the NCAA. Old Dominion will subsidize the cost of the student tickets but they don't know to what percentage yet and they don't know how many tickets will be dedicated to students. The 75% of the gate is a difficult one for many schools to justify after the cost of the bid. Like many of you have experienced, I am not expecting a sellout crowd for a home playoff game, even though we have sold out all of our regular season games during the first three years. If you factor in the cost of the bid, the 75% take, and the cost of game day (cops, set up crews, clean up crews, etc.), it may take at least $350,000 in ticket revenue to make this work (That's 14,000 fans at $25 each).

Selling out playoff games is tough. Many of the season ticket holders just don't have it in their plans with a one or two week notice, or have even left for their winter home. Always interesting to see new people sitting in great seats for the playoff games because the season ticket holder didn't claim their seat before the deadline for playoff tickets.

Me, I have to "spin the wheel" and hope Montana is playing on the weekend I choose. Too hard to drive 500 miles from Seattle to Missoula every weekend. I usually see how the first round goes and if it looks as if Montana will make the semis, I go for that game. Was on ESPN for 2.4 seconds at the APP game. It was glorious.

[CAA Flagship]

Selling out playoff games is tough. Many of the season ticket holders just don't have it in their plans with a one or two week notice, or have even left for their winter home. Always interesting to see new people sitting in great seats for the playoff games because the season ticket holder didn't claim their seat before the deadline for playoff tickets.

Me, I have to "spin the wheel" and hope Montana is playing on the weekend I choose. Too hard to drive 500 miles from Seattle to Missoula every weekend. I usually see how the first round goes and if it looks as if Montana will make the semis, I go for that game. Was on ESPN for 2.4 seconds at the APP game. It was glorious.

I do the same thing for the CAA basketball tournament. I usually skip the quarterfinals figuring that if we lost, I don't want to be there to see it, but if we won, I would be there the next day to see the semifinals.

[MadMaxMonarch]

I can't speak for others but I will attend ODU's first playoff game if I have to hitchhike through a snowstorm.

[∞∞∞]

These were ODU's bids as revealed by our local sports writer:

Round 1: $54,000 (min. $30,000)
Round 2: $58,000 (min. $30,000)
Round 3: $77,000 (min. $40,000)

We didn't bid on a semifinal game (min. $50,000) because of graduation ceremonies.

[CAA Flagship]

These were ODU's bids as revealed by our local sports writer:

Round 1: $54,000 (min. $30,000)
Round 2: $58,000 (min. $30,000)
Round 3: $77,000 (min. $40,000)

We didn't bid on a semifinal game (min. $50,000) because of graduation ceremonies.

Jeebus, did the deadline pass? Otherwise somebody just screwed up.
Well the cat's out of the bag. (Although I was told $53k for the first game).

Still looking for winning bid numbers from last year. Anyone know?

[danefan]

These were ODU's bids as revealed by our local sports writer:

Round 1: $54,000 (min. $30,000)
Round 2: $58,000 (min. $30,000)
Round 3: $77,000 (min. $40,000)

We didn't bid on a semifinal game (min. $50,000) because of graduation ceremonies.

Jeebus, did the deadline pass? Otherwise somebody just screwed up.
Well the cat's out of the bag. (Although I was told $53k for the first game).

Still looking for winning bid numbers from last year. Anyone know?

The deadline to submit all proposed budget materials for hosting preliminary rounds was Friday, November 11, 2011
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[CAA Flagship]

The deadline to submit all proposed budget materials for hosting preliminary rounds was Friday, November 11, 2011
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Well then, I guess I could have spilled the beans earlier. I thought the deadline was this week.

[BDKJMU]

It makes sense why Nobowls.com and the Sports Network would put Towson as a road team in the first round. We simply don't have a big enough stadium and don't fill it to out bid Appalachain State for a home game. My goodness that is a crazy system I must say for determining home field in the playoffs.

Towson at 9-2 with the CAA AQ should get a seed.

[89Hen]

It makes sense why Nobowls.com and the Sports Network would put Towson as a road team in the first round. We simply don't have a big enough stadium and don't fill it to out bid Appalachain State for a home game. My goodness that is a crazy system I must say for determining home field in the playoffs.

Towson at 9-2 with the CAA AQ should get a seed.

And anyone that beat them with a winning record should get an at-large.

[JmuSkinsfan]

Round 1: 16k x $20 per ticket (avg) = $320k
I think JMU could expect about 16k for a round 1 game. Maybe 4k students and 12k non-students.

Round 2:
JMU, if they made it, wouldn't host a round 2 game (playing a seeded team, either way)

Quarters/Semis: 24k x $20 per ticket (avg) = $480,000
would fall during school ... session ... new stadium, final round hype
Obviously JMU would likely outbid all but 2 schools (ASU, Montana) for a quarter or semi-final game if they made the field and didn't face a seeded team in those rounds (not terribly unlikely) ... and before you say "yeah right!" ... Villanova and Georgia Southern were both 7-4 last year.


I'd have to assume JMU's bids for Rounds 1, 3 and 4 would have to be pretty substantial, even with low attendance expectations for round 1 over Thanksgiving break.

[BDKJMU]

Towson at 9-2 with the CAA AQ should get a seed.

And anyone that beat them with a winning record should get an at-large.

Well then a 6 Div I win JMU beat seeded W&M last yr. Guess JMU should have gotten an At Large last yr too?

[89Hen]

And anyone that beat them with a winning record should get an at-large.

Well then a 6 Div I win JMU beat seeded W&M last yr. Guess JMU should have gotten an At Large last yr too?

Yup, but that's history. Can't fix that.

[tstidm1]

It makes sense why Nobowls.com and the Sports Network would put Towson as a road team in the first round. We simply don't have a big enough stadium and don't fill it to out bid Appalachain State for a home game. My goodness that is a crazy system I must say for determining home field in the playoffs.

Towson at 9-2 with the CAA AQ should get a seed.

I want to believe that, but Money talks in the figuring out of home games (outside the top 5 seeds). The only way Towson gets a home game is getting a top five seed. I can see a Lehigh outbidding Towson for a second round game without a top five seed. I think Mike Waddell (Towson's AD) doesn't want to overbid for a home game due to having a smaller than average stadium (only 11,000). Lehigh has 16,000 seats and could afford to out bid and break even on a second round game. I don't think CAA champ (Towson probably) is a top five seed. The most parity I've ever seen in the CAA is good, but there was no dominate team in the CAA. If one of the projected top 5 teams lose this week and Towson wins, then I think we may get the four or five line.

[mcveyrl]

An article in the Harrisonburg paper discusses JMU's chances with a win over UMass. Much of it is similar to the discussion from here. But I thought this part was interesting. Mike Barber interviewed Montana's Jim O'Day, the head of the selection committee.

The committee should have no shortage of information on the Dukes. JMU athletic director Jeff Bourne is one of its members. But O’Day said Bourne – under committee bylaws – won’t be able to vote on the Dukes’ potential selection.

“You can be part of the discussion but not the vote,” O’Day said.

I was under the impression you couldn't be a part of the discussion...

I should point out that there's a quote from Bourne right after that and he says that everyone on the committee is ethical and sticks to their job of not pushing their own agenda, but I thought that was interesting.