Yet Another Montana "Moving Up" Thread

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Green Cookie Monster wrote:Core WAC sports are baseball, softball and gymnastics, Montana has none, so they will have to be added and maintained. $$$$$
I don't think there is a set group of sports that WAC schools must participate in. Using your sports, Idaho, Utah State, and Boise don't play baseball. Idaho doesn't have softball. Boise State, San Jose State, and Utah State have gymnastics.
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dback is right about FBS to FBS moves but it doesn't matter since no can move this year with schedules already set. 2011 would be the earliest anyone can move anyway which is when the moratorium is up.

Core sports for all FBS/FCS conferences is football and basketball. :nod: The rest is meh.
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Fresno St. Alum wrote:dback is right about FBS to FBS moves but it doesn't matter since no can move this year with schedules already set. 2011 would be the earliest anyone can move anyway which is when the moratorium is up.

Core sports for all FBS/FCS conferences is football and basketball. :nod: The rest is meh.
Pretty much (although not all conferences sponsor football :nod:

Some conferences, to ease scheduling for members, do have core sports. For the Big Sky they are:
Football
Basketball (M&W)
Volleyball
Cross-Country (M&W)
Indoor and Outdoor Track (M&W)
Tennis (M&W)
Soccer (W)
Golf (W)
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dbackjon wrote:
Fresno St. Alum wrote:dback is right about FBS to FBS moves but it doesn't matter since no can move this year with schedules already set. 2011 would be the earliest anyone can move anyway which is when the moratorium is up.

Core sports for all FBS/FCS conferences is football and basketball. :nod: The rest is meh.
Pretty much (although not all conferences sponsor football :nod:

Some conferences, to ease scheduling for members, do have core sports. For the Big Sky they are:
Football
Basketball (M&W)
Volleyball
Cross-Country (M&W)
Indoor and Outdoor Track (M&W)
Tennis (M&W)
Soccer (W)
Golf (W)
True, except MSU has skiing instead of soccer ;)
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Catattack wrote:
dbackjon wrote:
Pretty much (although not all conferences sponsor football :nod:

Some conferences, to ease scheduling for members, do have core sports. For the Big Sky they are:
Football
Basketball (M&W)
Volleyball
Cross-Country (M&W)
Indoor and Outdoor Track (M&W)
Tennis (M&W)
Soccer (W)
Golf (W)
True, except MSU has skiing instead of soccer ;)
Yup - which they had to get a formal waiver from the League to do so.

BTW - Skiing would be a great Big Sky sport.
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anyone else notice that the people on here that post about sports that most don't care about, like it matters for why someone joins/invited to a better conference, have sucky football and basketball teams. cough Sac St. cough cough :D

Don't hate me Sac St. fans I enjoy you guys being in the WAC for baseball :thumb:
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dbackjon wrote:
Fresno St. Alum wrote:dback is right about FBS to FBS moves but it doesn't matter since no can move this year with schedules already set. 2011 would be the earliest anyone can move anyway which is when the moratorium is up.

Core sports for all FBS/FCS conferences is football and basketball. :nod: The rest is meh.
Pretty much (although not all conferences sponsor football :nod:

Some conferences, to ease scheduling for members, do have core sports. For the Big Sky they are:
Football
Basketball (M&W)
Volleyball
Cross-Country (M&W)
Indoor and Outdoor Track (M&W)
Tennis (M&W)
Soccer (W)
Golf (W)
Lets see out of all that I watch Big Sky men's basketball tournament and any FCS televised playoff game involving Montana or any other Sky member that makes the playoffs, which is usually Montana and....enter whatever team got 2nd in the Sky
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Montana better get ready for a call from the WAC. Boise St. is as good as gone. I heard rumors of La Tech finally caving and going to the Sun Belt as long as it saves money and they can deal w/ ULM(I don't know how legit that one is). Texas St., UTSA, UC Davis, Sac St. keep your ears open too.

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If they go, the big question is of course, what will the WAC do...
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Here a chunk of the Las Cruses news.

"Rumblings have surfaced, however, that Boise State could now join the Mountain West Conference. The Broncos, who have been the premier football program in the WAC since joining the conference nine years ago, would give the Mountain West more horsepower in its bid to become an automatic BCS bowl-eligible conference.

"History has shown that there's movement in conference membership," Benson said. "Since 1990, only two conference's have seen no movement — the Pac 10 and Ivy League."

Benson, who was in Las Cruces briefly Wednesday for the WAC softballl tournament, pointed out that despite speculation on BSU's future, the Broncos have not received an invitation from the Mountain West. An invitation would have to come before July 1.

There is a domino effect. If the Pacific 10 Conference elects to expand to 12 teams — currently the league has 10 members — it will most likely come from the Mountain West pool — Utah, BYU and TCU would all seem likely candidates to move.

The Broncos hold a 93-17 record and seven conference titles since joining

the WAC, along with six wins in nine bowl appearances. Two of those bowl wins came in a BCS bowl game — the 2007 and 2010 Fiesta Bowls.
While Benson spoke of the credibility and national recognition BSU has provided the WAC, he also points out there has been a good partnership between the school and the conference that has brought both entities success.

"As good as Boise State has been to the WAC, the WAC has been awfully, awfully good to Boise State," Benson said.

Aside from Boise State, Benson said Louisiana Tech could leave as well, possibly to Conference USA, which would line up more with its geographic location in Ruston, La.

"Louisiana Tech has been very straight forward with us and we've been very straight forward with them," Benson said. "But they realize that geographically that they are on the edge of the WAC and that they would fit more ideally with Conference USA or something within the Central time zone."

Benson said "four or five schools" have expressed interest in joining the WAC. Such schools could include Cal Davis, Cal Poly, Montana, Sacramento State, Portland State and Texas State."
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That pool is one of the WAC's issues - no current FBS schools to pull from.
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They have Montana and Texas St., down the line they could get UTSA, Lamar, who have all shown interest. If UC Davis, CP, Sac St. Portland St. decide FBS is for them then it opens things up for the WAC.
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Fresno St. Alum wrote:They have Montana and Texas St., down the line they could get UTSA, Lamar, who have all shown interest. If UC Davis, CP, Sac St. Portland St. decide FBS is for them then it opens things up for the WAC.
If Boise, and LaTech leave, then you are down to 7 core members. Another one leaves (say Fresno), bye-bye Basketball autobid for a few years.
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They are getting rid of the 6 core for 5 years thing. It's posted on D-I standards update i believe. So as long as they have 8. A-Sun was barely compliant with that under the current system back in UNF, Kennesaw St., USCU & FCGU first years.
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Fresno St. Alum wrote:They are getting rid of the 6 core for 5 years thing. It's posted on D-I standards update i believe. So as long as they have 8. A-Sun was barely compliant with that under the current system back in UNF, Kennesaw St., USCU & FCGU first years.
I was looking for that - couldn't find it.
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Fresno St. Alum Wrote: here it is. I'd like to point out in the revamped version they dropped the provisional period from 5 to 4 years.

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/portal/ncaahome?...+-+1-11-01" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"Eliminate the designations of “core” and “continuity” for Division I institutions and create a more meaningful definition of a multisport conference, including a minimum number of active members, minimum sport sponsorship, officiating and compliance program rules."
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