NDSU, EWU, SELA top Coaches' Poll

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JohnStOnge wrote:Eugene in particular is a big "get." He got pretty significant playing time at LSU. And when you get significant time at LSU you're getting playing time at the school that, at least as of my last check about two weeks ago, has more players on NFL rosters than any other school. They've got so MUCH talent that he was kind of getting lost in the shuffle and could see that his playing time was decreasing. But he'd probably be starting at the majority of "Big 5" conference programs. Regardless of how many stars he had coming out of high school he's a SEC starter caliber player.

Edit: Just checked and as of now LSU is one behind USC in players on NFL rosters. 55 for USC and 54 for LSU. But LSU is always up there at or near the top. If you get significant playing time there you're good.
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Aaron Reed will be a very good player at left tackle.

Sandolph is a big hitter who won't start but will be factor at SS ... Derrick Raymond will be a backup at corner but has ability.
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BDKJMU wrote:
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Eugene and Raymond were rated 4 stars by 247 ... Villarubia was rated 3 by 247 and ESPN ... Sandolph was rated 3 by everybody and Batiste 3 by Scout.

Besides, it doesn't matter whether they're zero stars or four stars, they're all good players who fit what we do.
Ok. But as I bolded, wasn't talking about Sandolph and Batiste- Rivals has them 3 star. Reed and Landor they have as 2 star. There's a bunch of different rating services (Rivals, Scout, ESPN, 247, etc). I'll usually mention what service when mentioning a guys stars. Rivals seems to be the most used, so when I see someone say a player has x # of stars, but doesn't mention the service, I just assume Rivals.

Odds are a few will be total busts, a few will be 2 deep to non all conference starters, and a few will turn out real good all conference type impact players. Could even have an All American in there. The benefit of casting a wide net. Same will happen with JMU's 8 transfers, which include a 1/2 doz BCS, 5 Rivals 3 star and 1 Rivals 2 star, which is probably the most in school history in # of transfers and certainly the most in # of stars. Same pretty much with all BCS & 3 star transfers. Except for most teams it's 1 or 2 or 3 (JMU's typical). Only a few teams every season can land 1/2 doz or more highly rated transfers. The benefit of casting a wide net.
Reed was rated 3 star by Scout ... Landor 3 star by 247.

I'm well aware of transfer history and the percentages ... as for recruiting services ... I used to evaluate and write for one.
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JohnStOnge wrote:Eugene in particular is a big "get." He got pretty significant playing time at LSU. And when you get significant time at LSU you're getting playing time at the school that, at least as of my last check about two weeks ago, has more players on NFL rosters than any other school. They've got so MUCH talent that he was kind of getting lost in the shuffle and could see that his playing time was decreasing. But he'd probably be starting at the majority of "Big 5" conference programs. Regardless of how many stars he had coming out of high school he's a SEC starter caliber player.

Edit: Just checked and as of now LSU is one behind USC in players on NFL rosters. 55 for USC and 54 for LSU. But LSU is always up there at or near the top. If you get significant playing time there you're good.
I would have guessed Bama, and was gonna ask how many Bama had but just looked up and according to ESPN I counted 50.
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slulionsfan wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
Ok. But as I bolded, wasn't talking about Sandolph and Batiste- Rivals has them 3 star. Reed and Landor they have as 2 star. There's a bunch of different rating services (Rivals, Scout, ESPN, 247, etc). I'll usually mention what service when mentioning a guys stars. Rivals seems to be the most used, so when I see someone say a player has x # of stars, but doesn't mention the service, I just assume Rivals.

Odds are a few will be total busts, a few will be 2 deep to non all conference starters, and a few will turn out real good all conference type impact players. Could even have an All American in there. The benefit of casting a wide net. Same will happen with JMU's 8 transfers, which include a 1/2 doz BCS, 5 Rivals 3 star and 1 Rivals 2 star, which is probably the most in school history in # of transfers and certainly the most in # of stars. Same pretty much with all BCS & 3 star transfers. Except for most teams it's 1 or 2 or 3 (JMU's typical). Only a few teams every season can land 1/2 doz or more highly rated transfers. The benefit of casting a wide net.
Reed was rated 3 star by Scout ... Landor 3 star by 247.

I'm well aware of transfer history and the percentages ... as for recruiting services ... I used to evaluate and write for one.
Which one (or would rather not say)?
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BDKJMU wrote:
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Reed was rated 3 star by Scout ... Landor 3 star by 247.

I'm well aware of transfer history and the percentages ... as for recruiting services ... I used to evaluate and write for one.
Which one (or would rather not say)?
Would rather not say.
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slulionsfan wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
Which one (or would rather not say)?
Would rather not say.
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I would have guessed Bama, and was gonna ask how many Bama had but just looked up and according to ESPN I counted 50.
I don't think that's a bad guess and it's dynamic. Changes from day to day, particularly now with the NFL in testing and culling mode. I"d say figuring that it's going to be Alabama, LSU, or USC at any given time would be a pretty good strategy most of the time. At one time Ohio State was in the 1 spot sometimes and they're still up there in the top 5 range most of the time.

For our purposes though, it's true that LSU has been as good as anybody in recent years terms of NFL talent production. It's how they run their program. They pretty much let recruits know that they are a NFL feeder school and understand if the recruit develops and leaves as an underclassman. So you have stuff like them getting 9 guys drafted this year with 5 being underclassmen and another 9 (if you count Tyrann Mathieu) drafted in 2013 with 8 of those being underclassmen.
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Looking forward to the EWU vs NDSU series in 2016 & 17.
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Gil Dobie wrote:Looking forward to the EWU vs NDSU series in 2016 & 17.
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Gil Dobie wrote:Looking forward to the EWU vs NDSU series in 2016 & 17.
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BDKJMU wrote:CAA team that was picked 5th preseason in the CAA by the coaches was picked 7th in this poll.
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