Hal Mumme to become offensive coordinator at JMU

[BDKJMU]

Hal Mumme to become offensive coordinator at James Madison, according to reports

Hal Mumme is moving again.

The former head coach at Kentucky and New Mexico State is taking the open offensive coordinator position at James Madison, according to CoachingSearch.com. Earlier this week, Mumme resigned as head coach at Division II McMurry (TX) University, saying he had done all he could at the small private college. Mumme took a team that had gone 0-10 before his arrival and ushered them into the Division III playoffs in his third season. He also successfully oversaw McMurry's move from NCAA Division III football to Division II, going 8-3 in the program's first year in the higher division.

Mumme, a native of San Antonio, Texas, was one of the innovators of the Air Raid offense. While head coach at Iowa Wesleyan from 1989 to 1991, Mumme and offensive coordinator Mike Leach created the system. They took their offense from Iowa Wesleyan to Valdosta State, and eventually Kentucky. Mumme and Leach trained the new California head coach, Sonny Dykes, and his offensive coordinator, Tony Franklin. A former wide receiver at Iowa Wesleyan, Dana Holgorsen, is running a variation of Mumme's offense at West Virginia. Kliff Kingsbury, the new head coach at Texas Tech, is also a disciple.

Mumme eventually washed out at Kentucky after a recruiting scandal, and did not fare well in a later stint at New Mexico State. In 2012, Mumme talked to SB Nation's Spencer Hall about his career, his style, and his coaching tree:

"I think it depends on the level. I always had these jobs where they were pretty desperate, and had to think outside of the box. I think there's programs like Alabama and around the top 25 where they don't have to do what we do, so they don't.

"We were at Kentucky, and we were doing this, and Spurrier was throwing it around pretty good at Florida with great players. (We were at Kentucky, and had a few great players but not as many.) I think everyone found Kentucky football fun, and that's why we were on television so much. We were fun to watch.

"I had a guy tell me one time when we first started that he never turned off a BYU game. He had no connection to BYU or even the state of Utah, but if BYU was playing on TV he was going to watch the game. That always kind of struck a chord with me, because that's a way to get everyone excited about your football program: the fans, the players, the people who needed to get excited about your program."

James Madison plays FCS football in the Colonial Athletic Association. The Dukes went 7-4 in 2012, missing the FCS playoffs after a run into the second round in 2011. James Madison was the 2004 FCS national champion and has made the playoffs in five of the last nine seasons. Head coach Mickey Matthews holds a 103-65 record in 13 seasons at the school.
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[BDKJMU]

Pretty good size article, so won't post the whole thing.

"Preaching the pass: Hal Mumme's disciples still thrive
In the first 100-plus years of NCAA football, only 10 players passed for 10,000 yards and 100 touchdowns in their careers. In the past 15 years, 49 have done it. Hal Mumme is one of the reasons why.......

..........The Hal Mumme coaching tree
Direct disciples
Coach Current position
Mike Leach Washington State head coach
Dana Holgorsen West Virginia head coach
Sonny Dykes Cal head coach
Tony Franklin Cal offensive coordinator
Neal Brown Kentucky offensive coordinator
Shannon Dawson West Virginia offensive coordinator
Chris Hatcher Murray State head coach
Matt Mumme Davidson offensive coordinator
Guy Morriss former Kentucky/Baylor head coach
Second-generation disciples
Coach Current position
Art Briles Baylor head coach (former Leach assistant)
Kliff Kingsbury Texas Tech head coach (former Leach QB)
Josh Heupel Oklahoma co-offensive coordinator (former Leach QB)
Seth Littrell Indiana offensive coordinator (former Leach player/assistant)
David Dean Valdosta State head coach (former Hatcher assistant)
*Greg McMackin Former Hawaii head coach (former Leach assistant)
*Ruffin McNeill East Carolina head coach (former Leach assistant)
*Will Muschamp Florida head coach (brief stint as Hatcher assistant)
*Kirby Smart Alabama defensive coordinator (former Hatcher assistant)
*Dave Aranda Wisconsin defensive coordinator (former Leach assistant)
*Defensive coach. Defensive coaches who know the Mumme offense also are in demand because of the spread offense's proliferation.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nc ... e/1807421/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[dal4018]

I have one thing to say Bombs Away!!!!

[BDKJMU]

"In the first 100-plus years of NCAA football, only 10 players passed for 10,000 yards and 100 touchdowns in their careers. In the past 15 years, 49 have done it."

One thing the article neglected to mention is that it was around 15 years ago was when the NCAA began counting postseason stats, which also coincided with about when I-A began doing league championship games, and not too long before they added a 12th game to every regular season. At the I-A level it used to be only 11 games per season counted towards records & stats. Then they added league championship games and 12th games to go along with the bowl games- so its up to 14 games.

So a guy more than 15 yrs ago could have 44 games count towards the record books. Now a guy could have 56.

IAA, Div II, and Div III levels the same thing. Playoffs used to not count towards season/career stats. Now they do. Mid 90s and earlier guy could only have 44 games count towards career stats. Now a guy could have upwards of 60.

[BDKJMU]

SB Nation/Coaching Search.com might have jumped the gun. We'll see.

"Pete Roussel ‏@coachingsearch
Sources tell me that Hal Mumme will join the James Madison staff as offensive coordinator. http://CoachingSearch.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Matthew Stoss ‏@MatthewStoss
A very, very good source just told me that Hal Mumme has not taken JMU's offensive coordinator job.

Matthew Stoss ‏@MatthewStoss
Mumme has a number of opportunities and is apparently still weighing his options.

Matthew Stoss ‏@MatthewStoss
I still like Mumme's chances, though. As I've said, Mumme and Mickey are close. They've known each other since the early 1980s."
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[dbackjon]

Great pick up for the Dukes

[dal4018]

SB Nation/Coaching Search.com might have jumped the gun. We'll see.

"Pete Roussel ‏@coachingsearch
Sources tell me that Hal Mumme will join the James Madison staff as offensive coordinator. http://CoachingSearch.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Matthew Stoss ‏@MatthewStoss
A very, very good source just told me that Hal Mumme has not taken JMU's offensive coordinator job.

Matthew Stoss ‏@MatthewStoss
Mumme has a number of opportunities and is apparently still weighing his options.

Matthew Stoss ‏@MatthewStoss
I still like Mumme's chances, though. As I've said, Mumme and Mickey are close. They've known each other since the early 1980s."
https://twitter.com/MatthewStoss" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Matthew what is he waiting for Christmas sign on the dotted line already!!!!

[jmufan]

JMU rivals site saying an announcement should be made after Friday. That is when the job add expires. Job starts March 1.

[dal4018]

JMU rivals site saying an announcement should be made after Friday. That is when the job add expires. Job starts March 1.

Before he knows March will be here already.

[YoUDeeMan]

Hal Mumme to become offensive coordinator at James Madison, according to reports

Mumme eventually washed out at Kentucky after a recruiting scandal, and did not fare well in a later stint at New Mexico State. In 2012, Mumme talked to SB Nation's Spencer Hall about his career, his style, and his coaching tree:

"I think it depends on the level. I always had these jobs where they were pretty desperate, and had to think outside of the box. I think there's programs like Alabama and around the top 25 where they don't have to do what we do, so they don't.

Hey, great hire...fits right in with the whole JMU culture.

[BDKJMU]

It seems that so many of these Air raid type offensive teams install this offense then all of a sudden their defensive stats go down the crapper. I did mention on the JMU board the generally subpar defensive #s of the top 10 passing teams in I-A (many of whom run an "Air Raid" type offense, and someone else pointed out the general poor time of possession for these teams also.

Top 10 I-A passing offenses and how they ranked in Total Defense and Time of Possession among the 120 I-A teams:
1. Marshall: 101st/94th
2. Texas Tech: 38th/53rd
3. Louisiana Tech: 120th (dead last)/103rd
4. Baylor: 119th/109th
5. Oklahoma: 64th/33rd
6. San Jose St: 24th/12th
7. Ok St: 80th/110th
8. Troy: 96th/55th
9. Wash St: 81st/101st
10. WVU: 108th/90th

The obvious conclusion is that with the these high passing, up tempo offenses, you see a lot of quick possessions (quick scores, quick 3 and outs) putting your defense right back on the field. Your defense will have more pressure on them running this type of offense and are more likely to get gassed. ODU in the CAA is a prime example of this (and UNH to a lesser extent).

That and the tendency to stockpile the best talent on offense.

[BDKJMU]

Another thing. For the last 10 national champs in both I-A and I-AA, I looked at the cumulative season stats, which gives the total # of plays, total # of running and passing plays. This is what I found out.

03’ UD: 65% plays rushing, 208 ypg. 35% plays passing, 184 ypg
04’ JMU: 71% plays rushing, 213 ypg. 29% plays passing, 155 ypg
05’ ASU: 59% plays rushing, 194 ypg. 41% plays passing, 229 ypg
06’ ASU: 66% plays rushing, 241 ypg. 34% plays passing, 176 ypg
07’ ASU: 69% plays rushing, 287 ypg. 31% plays passing, 201 ypg
08’ UR: 64% plays rushing, 187 ypg. 36% plays passing, 180 ypg
09’ VU: 70% plays rushing, 240 ypg. 30% plays passing, 145 ypg
10’ EWU: 48% plays rushing, 156 ypg. 52% plays passing, 241 ypg (only sleight exception among 20)
11’ NDSU: 61% plays rushing, 173 ypg. 39% plays passing, 173 ypg
12’ NDSU: 64% plays rushing, 203 ypg. 36% plays passing, 167 ypg

03' LSU 60% run/40% pass
04' USC 53% run/47% pass
05' Texas 64% run/36% pass
06' Florida 54% run/46% pass
07' LSU 58% run/42% pass
08' Florida 62% run/38% pass
09' Bama 63% run/37% pass
10' Auburn 69% run/31% pass
11' Bama 59% run/41% pass
12' Bama 63% run/37% pass

So of at least the last 20 Div I national champs (10 I-AA, 10 I-A), 19 have had more running than passing plays, with the one exception of EWU who was 48% run/52% pass, still pretty balanced. And I doubt its any different going back as far as you want to. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see a pattern there.

[BDKJMU]

I've got 4 theories on why the majority passing teams don't win NCs:
-Defenses on the field longer/shorter rests/more gassed.
-Defense mostly goes up against finesse in practice, so they tend not to be as good against the run.
-Finesse team that passes 60%-70% of the time is generally screwed when they are up against a good run defense team in bad weather conditions (30+ knot wind, rain or snow) when they have to do an offensive 180 and try to go mostly run. This would especially be true for Dec playoff games.
-Offenses tend to get a disproportionate amount of the "skill position" talent.

[Mvemjsunpx]

Another thing. For the last 10 national champs in both I-A and I-AA, I looked at the cumulative season stats, which gives the total # of plays, total # of running and passing plays. This is what I found out.

03’ UD: 65% plays rushing, 208 ypg. 35% plays passing, 184 ypg
04’ JMU: 71% plays rushing, 213 ypg. 29% plays passing, 155 ypg
05’ ASU: 59% plays rushing, 194 ypg. 41% plays passing, 229 ypg
06’ ASU: 66% plays rushing, 241 ypg. 34% plays passing, 176 ypg
07’ ASU: 69% plays rushing, 287 ypg. 31% plays passing, 201 ypg
08’ UR: 64% plays rushing, 187 ypg. 36% plays passing, 180 ypg
09’ VU: 70% plays rushing, 240 ypg. 30% plays passing, 145 ypg
10’ EWU: 48% plays rushing, 156 ypg. 52% plays passing, 241 ypg (only sleight exception among 20)
11’ NDSU: 61% plays rushing, 173 ypg. 39% plays passing, 173 ypg
12’ NDSU: 64% plays rushing, 203 ypg. 36% plays passing, 167 ypg

03' LSU 60% run/40% pass
04' USC 53% run/47% pass
05' Texas 64% run/36% pass
06' Florida 54% run/46% pass
07' LSU 58% run/42% pass
08' Florida 62% run/38% pass
09' Bama 63% run/37% pass
10' Auburn 69% run/31% pass
11' Bama 59% run/41% pass
12' Bama 63% run/37% pass

So of at least the last 20 Div I national champs (10 I-AA, 10 I-A), 19 have had more running than passing plays, with the one exception of EWU who was 48% run/52% pass, still pretty balanced. And I doubt its any different going back as far as you want to. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see a pattern there.

Those stats are skewed for 2 reasons:

1. Sacks count as runs
2. Winning teams run more because they're ahead late

[BDKJMU]

Another thing. For the last 10 national champs in both I-A and I-AA, I looked at the cumulative season stats, which gives the total # of plays, total # of running and passing plays. This is what I found out.

03’ UD: 65% plays rushing, 208 ypg. 35% plays passing, 184 ypg
04’ JMU: 71% plays rushing, 213 ypg. 29% plays passing, 155 ypg
05’ ASU: 59% plays rushing, 194 ypg. 41% plays passing, 229 ypg
06’ ASU: 66% plays rushing, 241 ypg. 34% plays passing, 176 ypg
07’ ASU: 69% plays rushing, 287 ypg. 31% plays passing, 201 ypg
08’ UR: 64% plays rushing, 187 ypg. 36% plays passing, 180 ypg
09’ VU: 70% plays rushing, 240 ypg. 30% plays passing, 145 ypg
10’ EWU: 48% plays rushing, 156 ypg. 52% plays passing, 241 ypg (only sleight exception among 20)
11’ NDSU: 61% plays rushing, 173 ypg. 39% plays passing, 173 ypg
12’ NDSU: 64% plays rushing, 203 ypg. 36% plays passing, 167 ypg

03' LSU 60% run/40% pass
04' USC 53% run/47% pass
05' Texas 64% run/36% pass
06' Florida 54% run/46% pass
07' LSU 58% run/42% pass
08' Florida 62% run/38% pass
09' Bama 63% run/37% pass
10' Auburn 69% run/31% pass
11' Bama 59% run/41% pass
12' Bama 63% run/37% pass

So of at least the last 20 Div I national champs (10 I-AA, 10 I-A), 19 have had more running than passing plays, with the one exception of EWU who was 48% run/52% pass, still pretty balanced. And I doubt its any different going back as far as you want to. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see a pattern there.

Those stats are skewed for 2 reasons:

1. Sacks count as runs
2. Winning teams run more because they're ahead late

Skewed slightly, but still doesn't invalidate the point.

Say you have a team that say for every hundred plays is 50 called runs, 50 called passes. On the 50 pass plays you have 20%/10 that are either sacks or scrambles (20% would be a high percent), leaving 40 pass plays. That still leaves a 60/40 run pass split.

Mumme's Air raid system I've heard is 70% passing. If it was that high, that would probably mean closer to 80% called pass plays. Its probably more like 70% called pass plays, 60% pass plays after sacks & scrambles.

Bottom line is running this type of offense I don't believe has won a national championship at the Div I level.

[BDKJMU]

JMU needed a change in OC after the last 4 seasons:
6-5 no playoffs
6-5 no playoffs
8-5 playoffs
7-4 no playoffs
When in every season JMU had a playoff caliber defense, but a mediocre to subpar offense for a team from the top 4-5 conferences.

I was hoping a OC that had a successfull resume of running a balanced, pro style offense. There probably were some out there that were interested in JMU from the Div III, Div II, and lesser I-AA level, but none with the resume and name recognition Mumme has. Plus Mumme is from West Texas, same as Mickey, and they are friends going way back. No doubt Mickey is on the hot seat, esp after seeing what what happened with Moore & Keeler, and going with Mumme was safer and more comfortable than going with a relatively unknown.

[slulionsfan]

JMU needed a change in OC after the last 4 seasons:
6-5 no playoffs
6-5 no playoffs
8-5 playoffs
7-4 no playoffs
When in every season JMU had a playoff caliber defense, but a mediocre to subpar offense for a team from the top 4-5 conferences.

I was hoping a OC that had a successfull resume of running a balanced, pro style offense. There probably were some out there that were interested in JMU from the Div III, Div II, and lesser I-AA level, but none with the resume and name recognition Mumme has. Plus Mumme is from West Texas, same as Mickey, and they are friends going way back. No doubt Mickey is on the hot seat, esp after seeing what what happened with Moore & Keeler, and going with Mumme was safer and more comfortable than going with a relatively unknown.

Is this a done deal? My source tells me Hal is not taking the JMU job ... he was in touch with him directly last week.

[BDKJMU]

JMU needed a change in OC after the last 4 seasons:
6-5 no playoffs
6-5 no playoffs
8-5 playoffs
7-4 no playoffs
When in every season JMU had a playoff caliber defense, but a mediocre to subpar offense for a team from the top 4-5 conferences.

I was hoping a OC that had a successfull resume of running a balanced, pro style offense. There probably were some out there that were interested in JMU from the Div III, Div II, and lesser I-AA level, but none with the resume and name recognition Mumme has. Plus Mumme is from West Texas, same as Mickey, and they are friends going way back. No doubt Mickey is on the hot seat, esp after seeing what what happened with Moore & Keeler, and going with Mumme was safer and more comfortable than going with a relatively unknown.

Is this a done deal? My source tells me Hal is not taking the JMU job ... he was in touch with him directly last week.

JMU beat writer tweet Feb 5:
"Matthew Stoss ‏@MatthewStoss
I heard today that new OC Hal Mumme is on campus already, has met players and could start running offense meetings this week."

So if he ends up not coming to JMU, the JMU board is going to have a meltdown. Me if he didn't come? Well, that would depend on who JMU got instead. I'm more of a fan of old school smash mouth. Ok with a pro style offense. Not to keen on this finesse Air Raid.

[slulionsfan]

Is this a done deal? My source tells me Hal is not taking the JMU job ... he was in touch with him directly last week.

JMU beat writer tweet Feb 5:
"Matthew Stoss ‏@MatthewStoss
I heard today that new OC Hal Mumme is on campus already, has met players and could start running offense meetings this week."

So if he ends up not coming to JMU, the JMU board is going to have a meltdown. Me if he didn't come? Well, that would depend on who JMU got instead. I'm more of a fan of old school smash mouth. Ok with a pro style offense. Not to keen on this finesse Air Raid.

Well, I was told this after the date of the tweet ... doesn't mean he won't take it but heard he was looking at jobs out on the west coast.

[Mvemjsunpx]

Skewed slightly, but still doesn't invalidate the point.

Say you have a team that say for every hundred plays is 50 called runs, 50 called passes. On the 50 pass plays you have 20%/10 that are either sacks or scrambles (20% would be a high percent), leaving 40 pass plays. That still leaves a 60/40 run pass split.

Mumme's Air raid system I've heard is 70% passing. If it was that high, that would probably mean closer to 80% called pass plays. Its probably more like 70% called pass plays, 60% pass plays after sacks & scrambles.

Bottom line is running this type of offense I don't believe has won a national championship at the Div I level.

Uh, Montana? 1995?

The Griz were run & shoot, not air raid, but the run/pass ratios are basically the same.


They also don't win many championships because a very low % of teams run that style.

[Mvemjsunpx]

(double post)

[BDKJMU]

Skewed slightly, but still doesn't invalidate the point.

Say you have a team that say for every hundred plays is 50 called runs, 50 called passes. On the 50 pass plays you have 20%/10 that are either sacks or scrambles (20% would be a high percent), leaving 40 pass plays. That still leaves a 60/40 run pass split.

Mumme's Air raid system I've heard is 70% passing. If it was that high, that would probably mean closer to 80% called pass plays. Its probably more like 70% called pass plays, 60% pass plays after sacks & scrambles.

Bottom line is running this type of offense I don't believe has won a national championship at the Div I level.

Uh, Montana? 1995?

The Griz were run & shoot, not air raid, but the run/pass ratios are basically the same.


They also don't win many championships because a very low % of teams run that style.

Someone mentioned them on the JMU board. I tried to find their stats from 95', but was unable.

[Mvemjsunpx]

Someone mentioned them on the JMU board. I tried to find their stats from 95', but was unable.

From the Year of the Griz book published following the championship (stats include playoffs):

• Pass Att. - 696 (60%); 410.5 ypg
  Rush Att. - 460 (40%); 113.2 ypg

Sacks aren't listed separately in the book, so I can't count those as passes (Dickenson was sacked 10 times in the title game alone, though). Montana also won 9 of their 15 games in blowout fashion that year, which skewed things a bit more towards the run than they otherwise would've been.

[BDKJMU]

Someone mentioned them on the JMU board. I tried to find their stats from 95', but was unable.

From the Year of the Griz book published following the championship (stats include playoffs):

• Pass Att. - 696 (60%); 410.5 ypg
  Rush Att. - 460 (40%); 113.2 ypg

Sacks aren't listed separately in the book, so I can't count those as passes (Dickenson was sacked 10 times in the title game alone, though). Montana also won 9 of their 15 games in blowout fashion that year, which skewed things a bit more towards the run than they otherwise would've been.

Thanks. Wonder why no NC in I-A or I-AA in the last decade has come close to that (and I wonder if any NC 96'-02' was ever close to 60-40 pass/run).

[Mvemjsunpx]

Thanks. Wonder why no NC in I-A or I-AA in the last decade has come close to that (and I wonder if any NC 96'-02' was ever close to 60-40 pass/run).

I'm guessing because running the ball is easier than passing, for the most part. You either can stop a good running game or you can't, & most teams can't because they just aren't strong enough up front. Pass-heavy schemes are trickier to stop if executed well, but it takes more precision to get the offense to that level.

I do recall Marshall's championship teams being fairly pass heavy. Not sure how much, though.