Montanas 2003 Schedule?????

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Darell1976 wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:I remember NDSU playing Montana in 2003 ;)
OMG!! An FCS team playing a DII team? I am so glad NDSU is so high and mighty but to bash the teams that do that.
I hope this comment was meant to troll jabber and lakes, but if it isn't, it is all-time dumb.

Note the facts, please-
NDSU was the DII team when they played Montana.
NDSU has not scheduled many DII teams as an FCS team compared to UND.

It clearly reflects more poorly on the FCS team that schedules a DII team more so than the DII team.
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rkwittem wrote:
Darell1976 wrote:
OMG!! An FCS team playing a DII team? I am so glad NDSU is so high and mighty but to bash the teams that do that.
I hope this comment was meant to troll jabber and lakes, but if it isn't, it is all-time dumb.

Note the facts, please-
NDSU was the DII team when they played Montana.
NDSU has not scheduled many DII teams as an FCS team compared to UND.

It clearly reflects more poorly on the FCS team that schedules a DII team more so than the DII team.
There's no doubt NDSU did a nice job scheduling during their transition to D-I, but the only real anomaly between the two schools was this year, the 4th year of transition. NDSU scheduled 3, 1, 1, and 0 D-II (or lower) teams during it's first four years of transition. UND scheduled 4, 2, 1 and 3 in its first four years of transition...note: this doesn't include OTHER "transitory" teams like UNC and USD, but only teams that still remain at a lower division level...so, for the first three years of each schools transition, they leaned on lower division schools at about the same rate. THIS year, UND took a left turn.

In 2012, UND has one D-II school on their schedule, as well as a 2011 playoff participant (UCA) and an FBS team, which is more the norm from a scheduling standpoint.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
rkwittem wrote:
I hope this comment was meant to troll jabber and lakes, but if it isn't, it is all-time dumb.

Note the facts, please-
NDSU was the DII team when they played Montana.
NDSU has not scheduled many DII teams as an FCS team compared to UND.

It clearly reflects more poorly on the FCS team that schedules a DII team more so than the DII team.
There's no doubt NDSU did a nice job scheduling during their transition to D-I, but the only real anomaly between the two schools was this year, the 4th year of transition. NDSU scheduled 3, 1, 1, and 0 D-II (or lower) teams during it's first four years of transition. UND scheduled 4, 2, 1 and 3 in its first four years of transition...note: this doesn't include OTHER "transitory" teams like UNC and USD, but only teams that still remain at a lower division level...so, for the first three years of each schools transition, they leaned on lower division schools at about the same rate. THIS year, UND took a left turn.

In 2012, UND has one D-II school on their schedule, as well as a 2011 playoff participant (UCA) and an FBS team, which is more the norm from a scheduling standpoint.
UCA backed out...replaced by Portland State. Fans are screaming for them to replace the SD Mines game.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
rkwittem wrote:
I hope this comment was meant to troll jabber and lakes, but if it isn't, it is all-time dumb.

Note the facts, please-
NDSU was the DII team when they played Montana.
NDSU has not scheduled many DII teams as an FCS team compared to UND.

It clearly reflects more poorly on the FCS team that schedules a DII team more so than the DII team.
There's no doubt NDSU did a nice job scheduling during their transition to D-I, but the only real anomaly between the two schools was this year, the 4th year of transition. NDSU scheduled 3, 1, 1, and 0 D-II (or lower) teams during it's first four years of transition. UND scheduled 4, 2, 1 and 3 in its first four years of transition...note: this doesn't include OTHER "transitory" teams like UNC and USD, but only teams that still remain at a lower division level...so, for the first three years of each schools transition, they leaned on lower division schools at about the same rate. THIS year, UND took a left turn.

In 2012, UND has one D-II school on their schedule, as well as a 2011 playoff participant (UCA) and an FBS team, which is more the norm from a scheduling standpoint.
Actually its to Lakes. He has bashed UND for scheduling down throughout their transition when other teams who are not in transition (Montana, UNI, etc.) do. So would NDSU be where they are today if Montana didn't schedule down?
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Darell1976 wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
There's no doubt NDSU did a nice job scheduling during their transition to D-I, but the only real anomaly between the two schools was this year, the 4th year of transition. NDSU scheduled 3, 1, 1, and 0 D-II (or lower) teams during it's first four years of transition. UND scheduled 4, 2, 1 and 3 in its first four years of transition...note: this doesn't include OTHER "transitory" teams like UNC and USD, but only teams that still remain at a lower division level...so, for the first three years of each schools transition, they leaned on lower division schools at about the same rate. THIS year, UND took a left turn.

In 2012, UND has one D-II school on their schedule, as well as a 2011 playoff participant (UCA) and an FBS team, which is more the norm from a scheduling standpoint.
UCA backed out...replaced by Portland State. Fans are screaming for them to replace the SD Mines game.
Is PSU a non-conference game then?
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Darell1976 wrote:
UCA backed out...replaced by Portland State. Fans are screaming for them to replace the SD Mines game.
Is PSU a non-conference game then?
Yes. Just as Montana is a non-conference game for UND in 2013 (the back end of a home and home) giving UND 7 home games in '13.
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Darell1976 wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Is PSU a non-conference game then?
Yes. Just as Montana is a non-conference game for UND in 2013 (the back end of a home and home) giving UND 7 home games in '13.

Personally I think they'd be better off replacing the FBS game...get a game that is winnable and actually COUNTS. :coffee:
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Darell1976 wrote:
Yes. Just as Montana is a non-conference game for UND in 2013 (the back end of a home and home) giving UND 7 home games in '13.

Personally I think they'd be better off replacing the FBS game...get a game that is winnable and actually COUNTS. :coffee:
$$$ is good. Plus UND doesn't want to get a reputation of backing out of games....unless its meaningless non DI teams.
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