#1 EWU @ USD Discussion & Game Thread

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Just in:

Both teams had FBS competition last week. Both teams in the aggregate looked good. USD had 368 yds and EWU an impressive 504. Its even more impressive when you consider the Eagles only had 31 yds rushing!

On the defensive side the EWU defense looks impressive. They allowed a modest 102 yds last week passing and a respectable 148 yds rushing. Good balanced defense and an offense that can really pass.

USD on the other hand allowed 487 yds last week. The impressive think about that is only 96 yds were from passing. A stout passing defense is going to meet a prolific passing offense. That leaves the South Dakota running game.

In this game a balanced attack is favored. With all the eggs in the passing basket and with USD fielding a respectable passing defense and a solid running game we might see the defending national champs stuck in the prairie mud so-to-speak.

Interesting the Eagles should travel out here. No doubt a plumb that was promised USD if they joined the Big Sky. Now that they are part of the Big Dakota 3 its really a feather in the cap for the Eagles. A big break playing in the Dakotas against 1 of the Big 3 over a home game against a transitioning USD team.

Im picking USD in this one. They will run their way to justice and shut down the Eagles passing attack just enough.

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Excuse Maker is an idiot!

This will be a fun game, crushing one of the the Dakota Little 3. They can't hang with the Big Sky, hence why they opted for a weaker conference in the MVFC. Good for them though. Good for them.

[ewudood]

Thats a good point Gil. I dont know their style of play. I didnt see the 9 rushing attempts either. Thats not many tries. EWU used 17 tries to get 31 yds.

My point: EWU didnt show much of a rushing game. Slowing down the passing game could give the edge to USD, especially since they averaged 4.2 yds/carry over 44 carries. EWU allowed 3.9 yds/carry.

Air Force was successful rushing against the Yotes and that was the difference in that game.

UW has probably the best DL EWU faces all season so its not surprising they didnt have much running game. Dont know much about USD's line but I'm gonna guess UW's is superior.

[cats2506]

Thats a good point Gil. I dont know their style of play. I didnt see the 9 rushing attempts either. Thats not many tries. EWU used 17 tries to get 31 yds.

My point: EWU didnt show much of a rushing game. Slowing down the passing game could give the edge to USD, especially since they averaged 4.2 yds/carry over 44 carries. EWU allowed 3.9 yds/carry.

Air Force was successful rushing against the Yotes and that was the difference in that game.

UW has probably the best DL EWU faces all season so its not surprising they didnt have much running game. Dont know much about USD's line but I'm gonna guess UW's is superior.

[JBB]

UW may have the superior line but USD was still able to put up 4.2 yd/carry against an FBS outfit. I like that stat. Take a chance on USD slowing down the EWU passing game a little bit and you have reason to pick the Yotes.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

UW may have the superior line but USD was still able to put up 4.2 yd/carry against an FBS outfit. I like that stat. Take a chance on USD slowing down the EWU passing game a little bit any you have reason to pick the Yotes.

No, not really. UW knew we were going to pass almost every play, and they still couldn't stop it. 473 yards, against a Pac-12 defense. Against USD, we'll be able to run the ball too.

EWU 30+
USD 20-

[cats2506]

UW may have the superior line but USD was still able to put up 4.2 yd/carry against an FBS outfit. I like that stat. Take a chance on USD slowing down the EWU passing game a little bit any you have reason to pick the Yotes.

No, not really. UW knew we were going to pass almost every play, and they still couldn't stop it. 473 yards, against a Pac-12 defense. Against USD, we'll be able to run the ball too.

EWU 30+
USD 20-

Yeah, they played base D all day and didnt pressuer billy bob at all, put the squeze on him and he overthrows

so what the line on EWU rushing for more than 50 yds per game, will they break 3 yards per rush?

[SDHornet]

No, not really. UW knew we were going to pass almost every play, and they still couldn't stop it. 473 yards, against a Pac-12 defense. Against USD, we'll be able to run the ball too.

EWU 30+
USD 20-

Yeah, they played base D all day and didnt pressuer billy bob at all, put the squeze on him and he overthrows

so what the line on EWU rushing for more than 50 yds per game, will they break 3 yards per rush?

The bigger question is do they need to?

[Screamin_Eagle174]

No, not really. UW knew we were going to pass almost every play, and they still couldn't stop it. 473 yards, against a Pac-12 defense. Against USD, we'll be able to run the ball too.

EWU 30+
USD 20-

Yeah, they played base D all day and didnt pressuer billy bob at all, put the squeze on him and he overthrows

so what the line on EWU rushing for more than 50 yds per game, will they break 3 yards per rush?

You obviously didn't watch the game and are just talking out of your ass so let me edjewmuhcate you.

Didn't pressure? No, they couldn't get pressure. We took their All-Star DT and big speedy DEs out of the game by 3-step-drops all game with quick slants and curls. When they did get pressure BLM rolled out and made some great throws downfield. Two of his TD passes were on 3rd and long and 4th and long where he had to roll out and throw on the run. They sacked him once, in 69 drop backs. We sacked their QB 3 three times in only 25 drop backs.

The rushing game will be fine. I like our chances at getting over 100 yards on the ground against USD, with 300 or so passing.

[rebla 49er]

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I think if he has a good game, Eastern comes out on top. You may very well see this young man in The League.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Brandon Kaufman - WR - Eastern Washington

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I think if he has a good game, Eastern comes out on top. You may very well see this young man in The League.

There's no doubt about it, he will play in the NFL.

[cats2506]

Yeah, they played base D all day and didnt pressuer billy bob at all, put the squeze on him and he overthrows

so what the line on EWU rushing for more than 50 yds per game, will they break 3 yards per rush?

You obviously didn't watch the game and are just talking out of your ass so let me edjewmuhcate you.

Didn't pressure? No, they couldn't get pressure. We took their All-Star DT and big speedy DEs out of the game by 3-step-drops all game with quick slants and curls. When they did get pressure BLM rolled out and made some great throws downfield. Two of his TD passes were on 3rd and long and 4th and long where he had to roll out and throw on the run. They sacked him once, in 69 drop backs. We sacked their QB 3 three times in only 25 drop backs.

The rushing game will be fine. I like our chances at getting over 100 yards on the ground against USD, with 300 or so passing.

Nope, I dvr'd it and have watched it a couple of times, just to see what happened, UW rushed 4 all day with a few exceptions, anytime somebody got close to billy bobs face, he heaved it as far as he could. The only real run play you have is a draw

Oh, what happened to Renard Williams, 1 asst. tackle all day and he was NOT regularly double teamed, I said it would be interesting to see what happened there when Jolly was not there to take up 2 guys.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

You obviously didn't watch the game and are just talking out of your ass so let me edjewmuhcate you.

Didn't pressure? No, they couldn't get pressure. We took their All-Star DT and big speedy DEs out of the game by 3-step-drops all game with quick slants and curls. When they did get pressure BLM rolled out and made some great throws downfield. Two of his TD passes were on 3rd and long and 4th and long where he had to roll out and throw on the run. They sacked him once, in 69 drop backs. We sacked their QB 3 three times in only 25 drop backs.

The rushing game will be fine. I like our chances at getting over 100 yards on the ground against USD, with 300 or so passing.

Nope, I dvr'd it and have watched it a couple of times, just to see what happened, UW rushed 4 all day with a few exceptions, anytime somebody got close to billy bobs face, he heaved it as far as he could. The only real run play you have is a draw

Oh, what happened to Renard Williams, 1 asst. tackle all day and he was NOT regularly double teamed, I said it would be interesting to see what happened there when Jolly was not there to take up 2 guys.

That's the only play we used to keep them honest and keep giving us space to throw, dipshit. Do you not get it by now that we weren't trying to run on them, just keep them honest so we could pass the ball all day? The point is that they didn't get to BLM. Our boys held them in check when it took longer than a second or two to get it out, or BLM scrambled and bought time to throw. A lot of the time he was just throwing the ball away because there was no one open... the smart thing to do instead of last year where he would throw into coverage and get picked.

And Renard was getting pressure all day, pushing his guy back. If it wasn't for him our DEs would've had a much harder time getting through.

You can keep trying to belittle EWU's play, but we straight up dominated UW despite shooting ourselves in the foot. And we're gonna rock MSU when they come into town. Time to start a new 7 game streak...

[cats2506]

I am not belittling EWOOOOO at all, If I make my picks, they are one of the best teams out there and deserve the #1 ranking until somebody knocks them off. What I am saying is that you have weaknesses, and I think they will be exploited unless they are fixed and I'm not sure that you have the personnel to fix them. I really dont see EWU going unbeaten this season, I am doubtful right now that the Cats can go unbeaten from here out either. There are just too many good teams in the BSC. I believe that the team that wins the BSC will need to be able to pass, run and play solid defense both on the front and the secondary, and I am not seeing that from EWOOOO, I am not quite convinced that the Cats have the complete package either but I think they are more complete than EWOOOO right now. All we are really sure of is that we will know a hell of a lot more in 3 weeks than we do now.

[EWURanger]

I am not belittling EWOOOOO at all, If I make my picks, they are one of the best teams out there and deserve the #1 ranking until somebody knocks them off. What I am saying is that you have weaknesses, and I think they will be exploited unless they are fixed and I'm not sure that you have the personnel to fix them. I really dont see EWU going unbeaten this season, I am doubtful right now that the Cats can go unbeaten from here out either. There are just too many good teams in the BSC. I believe that the team that wins the BSC will need to be able to pass, run and play solid defense both on the front and the secondary, and I am not seeing that from EWOOOO, I am not quite convinced that the Cats have the complete package either but I think they are more complete than EWOOOO right now. All we are really sure of is that we will know a hell of a lot more in 3 weeks than we do now.

I agree with a lot of what you are saying, in particular the strength of the Big Sky this season. There's very little chance that anyone makes it out of conference play without at least one loss. Most teams will have 2 or more. I just don't think you can make too many judgements based on the first game of the season against a Pac-12 team. And after all, we almost won? If we hadn't turned the ball over 4 times to UW's zero, we would have won that game, and it might have been by a 10-14 point margin.

This will be the real test for EWU to see how they come out and compete against an intra-Divisional opponent. I think it will be a tough matchup for us, and one that we absolutely have to win. But let's cut the BS for a minute. There is absolutely nothing to suggest that USD should be favored in this game. JBB can point to yards per carry and whatever else, but each game is it's own. I am willing to bet UW's defensive line is a lot bigger and athletic than Air Force, who typically relies on under-sized players anyway. No, you will see EWU run the ball in this game. Count on it.

[EWURanger]

Brandon Kaufman - WR - Eastern Washington

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I think if he has a good game, Eastern comes out on top. You may very well see this young man in The League.

I agree. I haven't really seen too many teams be able to take him out of the game. NDSU did a good job of keeping him in check last year (no sarcasm intended). He has a great shot to play on Sundays. However, unlike Taiwan, Brandon will be a four year player at EWU.

Also, NFL Draft Scout has it wrong. Brandon is 6'5, and closer to 6'6 than 6'4.

[kalm]

Yeah, they played base D all day and didnt pressuer billy bob at all, put the squeze on him and he overthrows

so what the line on EWU rushing for more than 50 yds per game, will they break 3 yards per rush?

The bigger question is do they need to?

This.

We ran the ball effectively against a very solid Nova D last year with almost identical personnel. Delaware and the UW? Didnt have to. We just need to be able to run good enough to set up the pass.

[cats2506]

The bigger question is do they need to?

This.

We ran the ball effectively against a very solid Nova D last year with almost identical personnel. Delaware and the UW? Didnt have to. We just need to be able to run good enough to set up the pass.

The think is in the whole first half of the Delaware game you tried unsuccessfully to run the ball, finaly started throwing it in desperation and with a few good breaks you came through. It wasn't as much as you didn't have to run the ball as much as it was you couldnt run the ball

[EWURanger]

This.

We ran the ball effectively against a very solid Nova D last year with almost identical personnel. Delaware and the UW? Didnt have to. We just need to be able to run good enough to set up the pass.

The think is in the whole first half of the Delaware game you tried unsuccessfully to run the ball, finaly started throwing it in desperation and with a few good breaks you came through. It wasn't as much as you didn't have to run the ball as much as it was you couldnt run the ball

It is a question mark at this point. I think it's fairly obvious that we will be a more pass-heavy offense this season. Similiar to how we played when we had Nichols, Boyce, and Overbay. But as I said before, the UW game wasn't a good indicator. And if you want to go back to the UD game, they had the number one rush defense in the country if I remember correctly. Couple that with a true Freshman running back making only his second career start, and it's no surprise our running game wasn't better. Mario Brown shouldered the load in the NC game, but this season we have the additions of Demitrius Bronson along with true Freshman Jordan Talley and Quincy Forte. I will admit, though, that if Brown and Bronson were really all that then I would sort of question the decision to pull redshirts. So I will agree that the verdict is still out on whether or not we'll be able to run effectively on a consistent basis. I just think it's a little early to write it off at this point, especially with all that talent in the backfield. We will game-plan differently against FCS opposition though, this I am certain of.

[eaglesfootball]

I feel ok about our backfield but time will tell. Watching both of those freshman in camp they looked really fast and I am excited to see what they will be able to do the next four years. Is there any stream for the South Dakota game or are we going to be forced to listen to the game?

[cats2506]

The think is in the whole first half of the Delaware game you tried unsuccessfully to run the ball, finaly started throwing it in desperation and with a few good breaks you came through. It wasn't as much as you didn't have to run the ball as much as it was you couldnt run the ball

It is a question mark at this point. I think it's fairly obvious that we will be a more pass-heavy offense this season. Similiar to how we played when we had Nichols, Boyce, and Overbay. But as I said before, the UW game wasn't a good indicator. And if you want to go back to the UD game, they had the number one rush defense in the country if I remember correctly. Couple that with a true Freshman running back making only his second career start, and it's no surprise our running game wasn't better. Mario Brown shouldered the load in the NC game, but this season we have the additions of Demitrius Bronson along with true Freshman Jordan Talley and Quincy Forte. I will admit, though, that if Brown and Bronson were really all that then I would sort of question the decision to pull redshirts. So I will agree that the verdict is still out on whether or not we'll be able to run effectively on a consistent basis. I just think it's a little early to write it off at this point, especially with all that talent in the backfield. We will game-plan differently against FCS opposition though, this I am certain of.

I'm not writing you off, just looking for weaknesses and and doing a little counter spin to SE12345's endless claims of total domination of the FCS

[JBB]

You can keep trying to belittle EWU's play, but we straight up dominated UW despite shooting ourselves in the foot. And we're gonna rock MSU when they come into town. Time to start a new 7 game streak...

You lost chump. Your teams play wasnt up to the task. You gained 31 yds rushing on 17 attempts! If you have to pass all year you are headed straight down the toilet! You had to pass all day. you got what they gave: A lot of yds not many points. What was your pts/yd ratio?

Now you are going to go up against a team that had just as good a game against an FBS opponent as the Eagles and you are on the road, in a dome against a member of the Dakota Big 3. You crow about how the Eagles did, but I dont think you have paid any attention to how the Coyotes played last week.

[grizcountry420]

Time to start a new 7 game streak...

Dont get a head of yourself there bud. Ya gotta come to the Zoo next weekend!

[goyotes]

I feel ok about our backfield but time will tell. Watching both of those freshman in camp they looked really fast and I am excited to see what they will be able to do the next four years. Is there any stream for the South Dakota game or are we going to be forced to listen to the game?

Video of game available from the USD website http://www.usdcoyotes.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; - I believe the cost is about $10 for a one month pass. Game is also being broadcast by Midco Sports Network, a Dakotas regional sports network, but am not sure of any arrangements to feed available to the land of the Eagles.

Per this blog in the Argus Leader http://mgarryargus.tumblr.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;, EWU may be the first #1 team at any level to visit the Dome. Really looking forward to the game. As I read someplace else this week, if the Yotes win, it could be the biggest home win in the history of the Yotes "I like history."

[cats2506]

Time to start a new 7 game streak...

Dont get a head of yourself there bud. Ya gotta come to the Zoo next weekend!

I think he is talking about the streak that EWU had going against MSU, another in the list of streaks that MSU ended last year.

[JBB]

I feel ok about our backfield but time will tell. Watching both of those freshman in camp they looked really fast and I am excited to see what they will be able to do the next four years. Is there any stream for the South Dakota game or are we going to be forced to listen to the game?

Video of game available from the USD website http://www.usdcoyotes.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; - I believe the cost is about $10 for a one month pass. Game is also being broadcast by Midco Sports Network, a Dakotas regional sports network, but am not sure of any arrangements to feed available to the land of the Eagles.

Per this blog in the Argus Leader http://mgarryargus.tumblr.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;, EWU may be the first #1 team at any level to visit the Dome. Really looking forward to the game. As I read someplace else this week, if the Yotes win, it could be the biggest home win in the history of the Yotes "I like history."

Thanks for the update goyotes. Its on the must see list. This is a winnable game against an over-confident bunch. Im pulling for the Yotes all the way!