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Re: Oddly early preseason top-25 FCS

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The CAA is a top three conference. However it isn't unfair to note that their champ was taken out of the playoffs by an GSU team with three conference losses.........
FIFY :thumb:
jus' sayin'..... :thumb:
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houndawg wrote:
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
FIFY :thumb:
jus' sayin'..... :thumb:
To counter your just sayin', it's also fair to note that the other BSC co-champ, who got spanked by the other co-champ, beat that same NDSU team. By all means, an NDSU team that beat the team that rolled us should've blown us out of the water. Maybe we're just more playoff tested than MSU in recent years. ;) :lol:
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:facepalm: Blue Hens, why couldn't you have just finished that effing game in Frisco... :wtf:
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PenthouseClosedEnd wrote::facepalm: Blue Hens, why couldn't you have just finished that effing game in Frisco... :wtf:
Don't worry, there's only going to be another 23 months of this before we take a short break. 8-)
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D@#! you, SE! Ever since that CBS commercial for that upcoming awards show during Let's Make a Deal this morning (a Siren won a dinette set), I've had "California Gurls" going through my head all freaking day. Now your bloody avatar's setting that off again. Ugh!!!

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SuperHornet wrote:D@#! you, SE! Ever since that CBS commercial for that upcoming awards show during Let's Make a Deal this morning (a Siren won a dinette set), I've had "California Gurls" going through my head all freaking day. Now your bloody avatar's setting that off again. Ugh!!!

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Maybe the song title's trying to tell you something. :coffee:
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Re: Oddly early preseason top-25 FCS

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clenz wrote:For your points on UNI

1. Should happen now. Rennie spent most of last spring learning the speed of the game, not the plays as much. The plays were put in during the fall for him, and could only get the basic read plays put in for the most part and relied on his athletic ability. With a full year under his belt this could be special this year.

2. Has Salmon been fired? No? Well then ****. Even with Sanders and Grace I didn't think the routes were great, but Sanders was deadly accurate and Grace had 70 yard in the air arm. Rennie has a fairly good arm but isn't "great" at anything when it comes to throwing. The play calling didn't help him any either. He is 6' but all that was called for pass plays with him was drop back plays with 2 types of routes - curls and go route. It was nearly impossible with that kind of play calling for Rennie to have success throwing. If Salmon could figure the bootleg system out, I know it is brand new and it hasn't been figured out by hundreds of other schools across the nation or anything, Rennie would be real dangerous. Get him on the edge with a run pass option with some routes underneath and teams having to cover the speed we have...wow. Too bad we still won't see it this year, and will have wasted 2 years of Rennie's talent, 2 years of Jared's talent, a year of Schuylar's talent, a year of Mo. Turner's talent, and well...all of our WR's talent

3. We should have that this year. Wilmont should be that guy. Andre is a good change of pace back from Rennie and Carlos as well.

4. Had Billy not had 2 broken vertebrae last season he would have been an AA kicker. Looks like we have some good kickers on campus though.
I'm going to be a contrarian here and suggest that Rennie will be the weak link on offense this year - I watched him play and calling his arm "fairly good" is wishful thinking, no offense. He could be good enough to win with, if, like you said, the Panters go to the roll out, but I watched him put everything he had into a hail Mary that carried barely 50 yards, maybe a couple more, and had the hang time of a good punt. It's pretty obvious from what I saw that playing UNI will be a classic case of jam the box and make the QB beat you with his arm.

The MVC is going to be much tougher next year.
Yeah, Rennie isn't made for throwing a 50+ yard bomb, and why should that even be in our fucking offense? With the speed of our skill positions there isn't a defensive secondary in the conference, possibly the FCS, that can match up man coverage and keep up with our WR. Send the on slant routes, drags, quick ins, quick outs, etc... Run a boot leg right where we have a WR run a 15-20 yard curl and a WR running a crossing pattern. One of those two will be open for the simple fact that the defenders will be more worried about Rennie running. Rennie has the skills to make him dangerous as hell if Salmon could get his head out of his ass and call plays. Outside of Oordt we didn't have utilize a WR over 6' last season. Why he was trying to run go routes and shit like that was just stupid. Get the ball in the WR hands quickly and let them make the plays.

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clenz wrote: NO ONE CAN TOUCH UNI'S SPEED IN THE CONFERENCE
Considering that Lehigh was able to completely handle that "speed" all day in the playoff game, then that is a scary indictment of the MVFC. I mean, when a Patriot League team looks just as fast if not faster than your most speediest team, that's scary.

I think we need to revisit the idea that the MVFC is a top tier conference - they're more like the Southland than they are the CAA/SoCon/BSC. :thumb:
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GannonFan wrote:
clenz wrote: NO ONE CAN TOUCH UNI'S SPEED IN THE CONFERENCE
Considering that Lehigh was able to completely handle that "speed" all day in the playoff game, then that is a scary indictment of the MVFC. I mean, when a Patriot League team looks just as fast if not faster than your most speediest team, that's scary.

I think we need to revisit the idea that the MVFC is a top tier conference - they're more like the Southland than they are the CAA/SoCon/BSC. :thumb:
No doubt that physical negates speed if the speed isn't used correctly. I can not and will not argue that.

However, our OC doesn't call plays that allow our play makers to make plays
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The BSC, CAA, MVFC, and southern are all very competitive year in and year out with the CAA being slightly ahead of the rest. I would also place the Southland only slightly below as they have had playoff wins very recently although no finalists or champions for quite sometime. Come to think of it, neither has the MVFC. :whistle: :mrgreen:

This year's championship must have been terribly upsetting for 89hen and his lack of bias. :lol:
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The MVFC had a finalist just a couple years ago
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I wouldn't put the MVFC on the same level as the CAA/BSC/SoCon. But I'd put them a solid 4th ahead of the Southland.
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clenz wrote:The MVFC had a finalist just a couple years ago
2005 is starting to be a lot more than "just a couple years ago", unless we're really starting to stretch the definition of "a couple".
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kalm wrote:This year's championship must have been terribly upsetting for 89hen
Like a kick in the nuts. To have the championship stolen by refs looking to hand the title to a western team like that. :ohno:
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89Hen wrote:
kalm wrote:This year's championship must have been terribly upsetting for 89hen
Like a kick in the nuts. To have the championship stolen by refs looking to hand the title to a western team like that. :ohno:
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Good stuff brother.
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Ursus A. Horribilis wrote::rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Good stuff brother.
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89Hen wrote:
Ursus A. Horribilis wrote::rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Good stuff brother.
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Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
houndawg wrote:
jus' sayin'..... :thumb:
To counter your just sayin', it's also fair to note that the other BSC co-champ, who got spanked by the other co-champ, beat that same NDSU team. By all means, an NDSU team that beat the team that rolled us should've blown us out of the water. Maybe we're just more playoff tested than MSU in recent years. ;) :lol:
Fair enough! :thumb:

Of course NDSU still is getting their feet under them and have struggled at the FCS level so far, one fluke run in a down year not withstanding...
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Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:
89Hen wrote: Do I ever disappoint? :D
Rarely.
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clenz wrote:
houndawg wrote:
I'm going to be a contrarian here and suggest that Rennie will be the weak link on offense this year - I watched him play and calling his arm "fairly good" is wishful thinking, no offense. He could be good enough to win with, if, like you said, the Panters go to the roll out, but I watched him put everything he had into a hail Mary that carried barely 50 yards, maybe a couple more, and had the hang time of a good punt. It's pretty obvious from what I saw that playing UNI will be a classic case of jam the box and make the QB beat you with his arm.

The MVC is going to be much tougher next year.
Yeah, Rennie isn't made for throwing a 50+ yard bomb, and why should that even be in our **** offense? With the speed of our skill positions there isn't a defensive secondary in the conference, possibly the FCS, that can match up man coverage and keep up with our WR. Send the on slant routes, drags, quick ins, quick outs, etc... Run a boot leg right where we have a WR run a 15-20 yard curl and a WR running a crossing pattern. One of those two will be open for the simple fact that the defenders will be more worried about Rennie running. Rennie has the skills to make him dangerous as hell if Salmon could get his head out of his ass and call plays. Outside of Oordt we didn't have utilize a WR over 6' last season. Why he was trying to run go routes and **** like that was just stupid. Get the ball in the WR hands quickly and let them make the plays.

NO ONE CAN TOUCH UNI'S SPEED IN THE CONFERENCE
We can touch your speed and will next year. Our starting DBs are very fast and we brought in ten players with 4.5 or better speed this class.

Like I said, TR can get the job done with a good supporting cast, which you have, but his arm has been exposed and DBs will play different because of that. Jumping the route isn't as much of a gamble. Next year will depend on if you can throw when you want to rather than when you have to and you know there will be a loaded box every week. I don't know what Oordt did in other weeks but his last two games against us weren't anything special even with all those FR DBs we had to play. And in TRs defense, it was the WRs drop on first down in OT that put you in a bind, not TR's throw.
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This from a couple weeks ago.

For the third consecutive weekend, sophomore Carlos Anderson improved his time in the 60m dash, this time finishing in 6.75 seconds to move into fourth place all-time at UNI. Anderson has the top time in the MVC this season. The Panthers took four of the top five spots in the 60m, with Jarred Herring second in 6.83, Timmy Johnson third in 6.91, and Wilmot Wellington fifth in 6.99.
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Carlos Anderson also won the 200m dash, clocking in at 22.20 to post the fastest time by a UNI runner this season. Herring took fourth place in 22.50, Wellington was fifth in 22.66, and sophomore Chris Henely was sixth in 22.78.

UNI has 4 of the top 8 60 meters guys in the MVC this year


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clenz wrote:This from a couple weeks ago.

For the third consecutive weekend, sophomore Carlos Anderson improved his time in the 60m dash, this time finishing in 6.75 seconds to move into fourth place all-time at UNI. Anderson has the top time in the MVC this season. The Panthers took four of the top five spots in the 60m, with Jarred Herring second in 6.83, Timmy Johnson third in 6.91, and Wilmot Wellington fifth in 6.99.
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Carlos Anderson also won the 200m dash, clocking in at 22.20 to post the fastest time by a UNI runner this season. Herring took fourth place in 22.50, Wellington was fifth in 22.66, and sophomore Chris Henely was sixth in 22.78.

UNI has 4 of the top 8 60 meters guys in the MVC this year


The bolded runners play football

If any of those guys can play why are you not running the spread?
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houndawg wrote:
clenz wrote:This from a couple weeks ago.

For the third consecutive weekend, sophomore Carlos Anderson improved his time in the 60m dash, this time finishing in 6.75 seconds to move into fourth place all-time at UNI. Anderson has the top time in the MVC this season. The Panthers took four of the top five spots in the 60m, with Jarred Herring second in 6.83, Timmy Johnson third in 6.91, and Wilmot Wellington fifth in 6.99.
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Carlos Anderson also won the 200m dash, clocking in at 22.20 to post the fastest time by a UNI runner this season. Herring took fourth place in 22.50, Wellington was fifth in 22.66, and sophomore Chris Henely was sixth in 22.78.

UNI has 4 of the top 8 60 meters guys in the MVC this year


The bolded runners play football

If any of those guys can play why are you not running the spread?
Did you watch a single UNI game last year? Did you think that was power running football or what?
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