not pointing out moral victories just making a point that the games were close and to say that NAU is gonna lose all three "probably" is counting your eggs before theyre laid.
dont know what happened on the last post it put my words in AZ's quote sorry.
NAU_Alum10 wrote:
not pointing out moral victories just making a point that the games were close and to say that NAU is gonna lose all three "probably" is counting your eggs before theyre laid.
dont know what happened on the last post it put my words in AZ's quote sorry.
So...... NAU's gonna start laying eggs
AZGrizFan wrote:
cats2506 wrote:
Thats my thoughts too, they just haven't played anybody YET.
I project that in 6 weeks, NAU will be 4-5.
My sentiments exactly.
"Ah fuck. You are right." KYJelly, 11/6/12
"The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam." Barack Obama, 9/25/12
SDHornet wrote:Good work as always J, although I would keep EWU above UM for at least this week and maybe longer depending on how they respond in their upcoming games.
And I agree with frinq, PSU took it to cal-davis where WSU struggled and didn't overtake them until late in the game. I still think PSU can finish with 3 wins (just make sure one of them isn't in Sac ).
Here is my rankings:
1) MSU - they are in the driver's seat
2) EWU - could drop depending on how they respond in the following weeks
3) UM - squeaked by Sac State, they still look sloppy and need to clean up some things.
4) Sac State - Obviously a little (maybe a lot) of homerism but we haven't looked shabby at all thus far.
5) NAU - still unproven in my eyes. They definitely can move up this list in the coming weeks.
6) WSU - they had a weak showing at home against a weak OOC opponent. Higgins hasn't looked crisp since BC.
7) PSU - I haven't seen them play but their offensive scheme is sure to give teams trouble.
8) UNC - still trying to get over the hump. They have potential to make some noise.
9) ISU - no offense to speak of, possibly won't win another game this season.
The think I liked most about our game against UC Davis is that our D allowed 0 touchdowns. Higgins has played well since BC, not every game, he could use a running attack and tight end to help out.
Higgins vs UNC:
33-54, 340 yds passing, 4 TD passes, 0 INT
WSU playing solid D will be key in the EWU game to have a shot at the win. Also if its close our special teams could give us an edge.
weberwildcat wrote:Im good with Jalmond having WSU at #6. We either haven't played or haven't beaten anyone in his top 5.
Are we safe to assume the loser of the EWU/WSU game's season is OH VEE EE ARE???
Most likely. Both teams would really need to win out to have a shot, and as I think everyone knows at this point, there are no gimmie games this year in the BSC. It's definitely a more well-rounded conference this year. It's going to be interesting to see how things shake out over the next couple of weeks.
weberwildcat wrote:Im good with Jalmond having WSU at #6. We either haven't played or haven't beaten anyone in his top 5.
Are we safe to assume the loser of the EWU/WSU game's season is OH VEE EE ARE???
Most likely. Both teams would really need to win out to have a shot, and as I think everyone knows at this point, there are no gimmie games this year in the BSC. It's definitely a more well-rounded conference this year. It's going to be interesting to see how things shake out over the next couple of weeks.
I would have agreed to that a week ago. U need to MINUS idaho state. they are getting worse. they are averaging 53 rushing yrds p/game and 150 yds of total offense vs FCS.
EWURanger wrote:
Most likely. Both teams would really need to win out to have a shot, and as I think everyone knows at this point, there are no gimmie games this year in the BSC. It's definitely a more well-rounded conference this year. It's going to be interesting to see how things shake out over the next couple of weeks.
I would have agreed to that a week ago. U need to MINUS idaho state. they are getting worse. they are averaging 53 rushing yrds p/game and 150 yds of total offense vs FCS.
Your instincts are the same as mine, Jalmond. Cavanaugh makes me very nervous. His sidearm passes were knocked down four times by Oregon. He can't get the damned ball over their heads?! On the other hand, he isn't intercepted much. Hubel isn't an option now, so we've got what we've got. I'll be watching to see how our running game goes. With the Pistol everything hangs on it. And our special teams will be pushed; their returners are spectacular.
NAU_Alum10 wrote:Last I remember you guys barely got us last year in OT by a questionable non TD call so your arrogance is just laughable.
Get used to it.
NAU has as good a chance as any for a share of the title this year.
Weber and EWU beat us for the first time in years and shove it down our throats. And so would ANY other BSC team if they beat us. It's college football, go to any board in the nation and find a team that struggles with its rival/conference mate. Every single one will have people crying about the better program's "arrogance"
Now I wouldn't call any of those games for NAU a guaranteed loss, but they have definitely been a major underperformer the last couple years so people are having a hard time giving them the benefit of the doubt. And what is the closest Souers has been to a win in Missoula?
NAU_Alum10 wrote:NAU will gladly fly under the radar while everyone else is punching each other in the face. Oct 9 – 23 will be the stretch that will determine how our season will go (EWU, MSU, UM back to back to back).
And you'll more than likely go 0-3 and be done.
AZGrizfan -
An NAU alumni must have either smacked you in the nose, totalled your new car or take a crap on your front porch at some point in the past. I can't figure any legitimate reason for a UofM Griz fan to go out of their way to point out their continued dominance over the Lumberjacks like you do. We (all whopping 4-5 NAU posters here) get it.
Your logic implies that because NAU has had some big let-downs the last few years that it will surely happen again this year. The Griz have won the conference the last few years but that certainly doesn't mean it's guaranteed to happen this season. Can we at least agree on this much? The games are played for a reason. You're no modern Nostradamus.
AZGrizFan wrote:
And you'll more than likely go 0-3 and be done.
AZGrizfan -
An NAU alumni must have either smacked you in the nose, totalled your new car or take a crap on your front porch at some point in the past. I can't figure any legitimate reason for a UofM Griz fan to go out of their way to point out their continued dominance over the Lumberjacks like you do. We (all whopping 4-5 NAU posters here) get it.
Your logic implies that because NAU has had some big let-downs the last few years that it will surely happen again this year. The Griz have won the conference the last few years but that certainly doesn't mean it's guaranteed to happen this season. Can we at least agree on this much? The games are played for a reason. You're no modern Nostradamus.
word of advice: don't start acting like UNI fans DJH & clenzy. "more than likely" <> "surely". Go look in a thesaurus.
I love me some Lumberjokes. But you'll excuse me if, after 6 straight years of teasing the rest of the BSC and then falling flat on their faces if we (the rest of the Big Sky) have taken a "wait and see" attitude.
"Ah fuck. You are right." KYJelly, 11/6/12
"The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam." Barack Obama, 9/25/12
free7694 wrote:How does PSU pass UNC after a week in which the Viks had a bye and the Bears played a Top 25 FBS team?
It is not something I've done much in the past. I do take a strong look as how the season has progressed and make an opinion on that. In the case of PSU over UNC, it is not what the Bears didn't do, it was more of what the Vikings have done. The Vikings beat a Davis team on the road, something that really was not too spectacular until this past weekend when Davis went to Weber and stayed with them most of the game. The Bears have an FCS win as well, but a home win over ISU that didn't get any style points after ISU went back home and laid down for NAU.
As I said at the end, though, I have PSU and UNC pretty even, just a slight edge for PSU based on a road win over Davis against a home win over ISU (and I stress, slight).
FWJack wrote:I would say at this point in the season EWU would still need to be ranked ahead of UM. I believe they both have the same record, but EWU holds the head to head. Also both of UM's losses are to FCS foes where as one of EWU's L's is Nevada and the other is to the current BSC #1. They may very well end up falling back behind UM or even some others, but at this point its too early to say that. Good work though, I like these power rankings.
As far as EWU/UM, I am not as excited this week about the Eagles as I have been, with the uncertainty of Jones' playing status and Mitchell's inability to be a strong quarterback for this team. With what they were able to do against Montana, they should have at least been able to hang with Montana State, even on the road. As far as the Griz, after their performance in squeaking out a win over Sacramento State, I'm thinking they have finally turned a corner.
Silenoz wrote:
Weber and EWU beat us for the first time in years and shove it down our throats. And so would ANY other BSC team if they beat us. It's college football, go to any board in the nation and find a team that struggles with its rival/conference mate. Every single one will have people crying about the better program's "arrogance"
Now I wouldn't call any of those games for NAU a guaranteed loss, but they have definitely been a major underperformer the last couple years so people are having a hard time giving them the benefit of the doubt. And what is the closest Souers has been to a win in Missoula?
Speculation, as I don't speak for NAU's fanbase much less any other Big Sky team's, but possibly a reason some of Weber State's and EWU's fans chose to "shove it down Griz fan's throats" is becuse a few loud Griz fans spend their time reminding the FCS how good the Griz are. Just a thought? Are all of your fans arrogant....far from it. A whole lot of Missoulian/Montanans/UM alums are gracious win or lose. You've been on top for so long that a fringe element of your fanbase has developed NY Yankee-itis (a rash followed by an encompassing sense of self-entitlement) and find great pleasure in rubbing it in to the rest of the FCS. A bit annoying maybe but by no means do they speak for the U of Montana fanbase as a whole.
Did some research and found the most recent positive effort in Missoula by NAU was October 14, 2006. Link below:
24-21. Sounds like a pretty close game in Missoula to me. Souers hasn't sealed the deal yet but he's been very close a few times recently.
I remember that October day well because I was on a hike in the Pintler Range that day instead of trying to scrounge a scalper ticket in Missoula. Somewhat regret not going but a bad day hiking truly isn't bad at all.
Silenoz wrote:
Weber and EWU beat us for the first time in years and shove it down our throats. And so would ANY other BSC team if they beat us. It's college football, go to any board in the nation and find a team that struggles with its rival/conference mate. Every single one will have people crying about the better program's "arrogance"
Now I wouldn't call any of those games for NAU a guaranteed loss, but they have definitely been a major underperformer the last couple years so people are having a hard time giving them the benefit of the doubt. And what is the closest Souers has been to a win in Missoula?
Speculation, as I don't speak for NAU's fanbase much less any other Big Sky team's, but possibly a reason some of Weber State's and EWU's fans chose to "shove it down Griz fan's throats" is becuse a few loud Griz fans spend their time reminding the FCS how good the Griz are. Just a thought? Are all of your fans arrogant....far from it. A whole lot of Missoulian/Montanans/UM alums are gracious win or lose. You've been on top for so long that a fringe element of your fanbase has developed NY Yankee-itis (a rash followed by an encompassing sense of self-entitlement) and find great pleasure in rubbing it in to the rest of the FCS. A bit annoying maybe but by no means do they speak for the U of Montana fanbase as a whole.
Did some research and found the most recent positive effort in Missoula by NAU was October 14, 2006. Link below:
24-21. Sounds like a pretty close game in Missoula to me. Souers hasn't sealed the deal yet but he's been very close a few times recently.
I remember that October day well because I was on a hike in the Pintler Range that day instead of trying to scrounge a scalper ticket in Missoula. Somewhat regret not going but a bad day hiking truly isn't bad at all.
I've been to every Griz/NAU game in Flagstaff since 1993 and RARELY are they blowouts. NAU always seems to find a way to lose though. Last year they blamed the refs....For some reason, NAU just can NOT get over the hump and be consistently good.
edit: and if you're describing ME above (which I could honestly care less) you haven't been paying attention. I spend an inordinate amount of time here trying to convince the ECB jackoffs of how good the BSC as a whole really is....
"Ah fuck. You are right." KYJelly, 11/6/12
"The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam." Barack Obama, 9/25/12
mtjack wrote:Somewhat regret not going but a bad day hiking truly isn't bad at all.
Reminds me of what I told my Duck co-workers last year when they asked why I was still supporting PSU athletics. My response, "A bad day of PSU football is still better than a great day at work."
AZGrizFan wrote:I've been to every Griz/NAU game in Flagstaff since 1993 and RARELY are they blowouts. NAU always seems to find a way to lose though. Last year they blamed the refs....For some reason, NAU just can NOT get over the hump and be consistently good.
edit: and if you're describing ME above (which I could honestly care less) you haven't been paying attention. I spend an inordinate amount of time here trying to convince the ECB jackoffs of how good the BSC as a whole really is....
I disagree with you often, AZGrizFan. But from the general jist of your posts here and on egriz.com I can see that you have the ability to look at some sports issues objectively but still support your Griz.
Convincing an East Coast metro native that there are positives to the Midwest/Rockies/West Coast is losing battle. Isn't everything in the middle of the country a vast wasteland?
I dont' blame the refs for last year's (that out of bounds call could have easily gone both ways but so be it) or any other year's Lumberjack loss to the Griz. I blame a talented NAU team hanging tough more often than not but being unable to seal the deal in clutch time.
weberwildcat wrote:
Are we safe to assume the loser of the EWU/WSU game's season is OH VEE EE ARE???
No.
Just like based on experience it's not safe to assume a 5-1, ranked NAU team is a lock for the playoffs, the 2007 and 2009 EWU squands closed the season with 4 and 5 game winning streaks to get an at-large. It's not the way we'd prefer it, but also consider we'll have 4 out the remaining six games at home:
10/9 - NAU
10/16 - at UNC
10/23 - SAC
10/30 - at PSU
10/13 - SUU
10/20 - ISU
SAC and NAU should be the two toughest games in that stretch and we get them at home. The rest might be the bottom three in the BSC and a struggling SUU. But obviously, nothing is for certain - it's a long season.
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