...and one of those would be competitive in todays playoffs.
I don't think we will get close to agreement on this point.

...and one of those would be competitive in todays playoffs.


Agreed, because your stats don't back up your position.


I haven't seen anything to disprove it other than the Western teams are better than the Eastern teams. Your judgement is skewed because there a no great teams in the east.


In 2003 there were 11 I-AA teams in the top 100 teams for Sagarin. Last year there were 5.





That’s a big drop. It may likely continue.


That would be like a CAA team making the final 8 this year. CAA would call themselves the best conference.



Other schools are stepping up. It's not just NDSU and everyone else. Montana St, SDSU and South Dakota are all at that level now. UCD is rising and soon the Ivys will be in the playoffs. South Dakota may win it next year.Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2025 5:03 am watched some of a JMU at Richmond game from circa 2008, the old stadium downtown
those teams were so good it was refreshing despite being so long ago and the level of play was so much better than what the CAA is today
So yea, the CAA and the Southern were much better a few decades ago, but the question I have is has the West improved the level of the FCS play enough to make Gils argument. Im not really convinced either way right now


RightGil Dobie wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2025 8:09 amOther schools are stepping up. It's not just NDSU and everyone else. Montana St, SDSU and South Dakota are all at that level now. UCD is rising and soon the Ivys will be in the playoffs. South Dakota may win it next year.Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2025 5:03 am watched some of a JMU at Richmond game from circa 2008, the old stadium downtown
those teams were so good it was refreshing despite being so long ago and the level of play was so much better than what the CAA is today
So yea, the CAA and the Southern were much better a few decades ago, but the question I have is has the West improved the level of the FCS play enough to make Gils argument. Im not really convinced either way right now

Really?kalm wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 7:27 amEvery playoff venue has empty seats..Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2024 3:36 pm
I actually saw some empty seats in that early playoff game
Welcome to FCS!

Not sure of your point here in digging up a post from February. But you be you.Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Tue Aug 05, 2025 8:44 amReally?
FCS has so few fans It seems like a big shot like you would know who the true fans are…. And you will learn by watching games and you can see the attendance with your own eyes.
Posted by MTfan4life View Post
And we have a winner. Caribbeanhen with the basically wire to wire win this season! Not even the last week 50 pick fest could take him down! Well done, Mr. Hen.
Posted by Chalupa Batman View Post
As you guys have already figured out caribbeanhen was closest on the tiebreaker with an insanely close score pick, & is the 2024 survival pool champion. Congratulations!
Here are the official final results:
1. caribbeanhen: 2 (off by 1 on margin of victory, off by 1 on total score)
2. MR. CHICKEN: 10 (off by 4 on margin of victory, off by 6 on total score)
3. POD Knows: 22 (off by 17 on margin of victory, off by 5 on total score)
4. centraljerseycat: N/A (no score submitted)
PLAYOFF PICK-EM, SPRING 2021 FCS PLAYOFFS Final Standings
CONGRATULATIONS TO C-HEN FOR THE WIN!
final Standings:
Caribbean Hen 14-1
JacksFan40 12-3
KPSUL 12-3
Laker 12-3
CenMEBlackBearfan 12-3
McNeese75 12-3
Bonarae 11-4
Tribe4SF 11-4
Sir William 11-4
Palladin1AA 11-4
SonuvaHenx2 11-4
BEAR 11-4
Katfan 11-3
Mvfcfan 10-2
Schism55 10-2
PuddinTane 10-4
Ohiohen 10-5
Skinny uncle 10-5
SUPharmacist 10-5
STLawson 10-5
Gil Dobie 10-5
Preferred Walk-On 10-4
JSU Southerner 10-5
Chalupa Batman 10-5
BNation 10-4
YSUbigred 10-5
Atthewbon 9-3
Katss07 9-3
Ming01 9-3
YSUbigred 9-5
JMU007 9-5
POD Knows 9-6
TheKingpin 9-5
PAward 9-6
Libertine 9-6
CH is sore he won’t be as big a fish knowledge wise with the Hens in FBS/CUSA compared to the tiny, far fewer care about world of FCS?
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You don’t have to worry about C H as he is transitioning to FBS very well. Thank you. Hopefully our Blue Hens can do the same.
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There was just no catching Carib, as he lead this pool the entire season. A truly remarkable performance.
Now we all know who to go to for CUSA game insight next season!
As you can see, Caribbean Hen had a commanding lead:
1st - (50) Caribbean Hen
2nd - (40) Brookside kid hen
T3 - (38) 93BlueHen
T3 - (38) Blue & Gold Hen
T3 - (38) HENRY
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There was one sensible UD poster, Caribbean Hen, arguing with about 5 other UD idiots who don’t know jack squat about football...
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March 1st, 2021, 10:37 PM #5
caribbeanhen
Re: STATS FCS Top 25 Rankings 3/1/21
Watch out for Sammy, their primed for a championship run
March 1st, 2021, 10:39 PM #6
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Quote Originally Posted by POD Knows View Post
Samford?
Caribbeanhen
Nope not them... Sam Houston State was the best team I saw on Saturday ..
https://www.anygivensaturday.com/showth ... ngs-3-1-21
MVFC Pick'em Sat 4/17
caribbeanhen wins the regular season. Congrats
We will reset the standings for the playoffs, for those irritated by my screwed up final regular season standings the correct ones are below.
1. caribbeanhen 21-9
2. skinny_uncle 19-10
3. ST_lawson 19-11
3. Bonarae 19-11
3. POD Knows 19-11
3. Chalupa Batman 19-11
7. Bear 18-10
8. TheKingpin28 18-12
8. Paladin1aa 18-12
10. ysubigred 17-9
11. Preferred Walk-on 17-10
12. Schism55 17-13
13. Daytripper 16-11
14. Professor Chaos 16-14
15. OhioHen 15-10
15. Bisonator 15-10
17. atthewbon 12-5
18. DCWIU11 11-9
19. SUpharmacist 8-15
20. Gil Dobie 7-3
21. SDFS 7-11
22. Puddin Tane 3-5
23. melloware13 2-0
24. nodak651 2-3
24. Dewey 2-3
26. The Yo Show 1-2
26. NDSUKurt 1-2
28. MVFCBeat 1-4
AGS Survivor Pool Winners:
2021: crusader11
2022: KPSUL
2023: Karl Havoc
2024: caribbeanhen
AGS Playoff Bracket Challenge - After 2nd Round, Fall 2021
With two rounds in the books, we have a new leader. OhioHen has taken an overall lead, with both caribbeanhen and ElCid just 1 pt behind.
Six players had perfect weeks (8/8) for picking winning teams, with caribbeanhen having the best week predicting scores and Pitz having the best week predicting margins of victory.
The current standings are below, and I have included the # of correct teams picked (which generally shows that the leaders tend to have the most correct, but that score/margin predictions can keep players in the running with the leaders...provided they have not missed on too many teams). Enjoy!
Player 2nd Round Total # Correct
OhioHen 160 247 15
caribbeanhen 178 246 13
ElCid 164 246 15
putter 170 242 14
FCSbuff319 158 237 14
Pitz 168 234 13
MSUBobcat 158 232 13
PLAYOFF PICK-EM, SPRING 2021 CHAMPIONSHIP GAME
FINAL ROUND, CHAMPIONSHIP GAME:
SAM HOUSTON STATE UNIVERSITY vs SOUTH DAKOTA STATE UNIVERSITY
Standings after Round three, Semifinals:
Caribbean Hen 13-1
JacksFan40 12-2
KPSUL 12-2
Laker 12-2
Bonarae 11-3
Tribe4SF 11-3
CenMEBlackBearfan 11-3
Sir William 11-3
Palladin1AA 11-3
SonuvaHenx2 11-3
BEAR 11-3
Katfan 11-3
McNeese75 11-3
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Final MVFC prediction standings
Good evening everyone,
Edited to add 1 point for Redbird 4th & short...he picked NDSU to win in another thread. Plus he said he is buying me beers for the next NDSU at Illinois State game
Here are the final standings for the MVFC regular season, playoffs and the overall standings title.
As always if anyone sees a mistake please let me know.
REGULAR SEASON
CHAMPION = Mayville Bison
Runner-Up = dewey, TheKingpin28 & Paladin1aa
3rd place = caribbeanhen

I just wanted BDK to see that post he made on another board 10 years ago that he probably doesn’t even rememberkalm wrote: ↑Tue Aug 05, 2025 9:30 amNot sure of your point here in digging up a post from February. But you be you.Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Tue Aug 05, 2025 8:44 am
Really?
FCS has so few fans It seems like a big shot like you would know who the true fans are…. And you will learn by watching games and you can see the attendance with your own eyes.
Posted by MTfan4life View Post
And we have a winner. Caribbeanhen with the basically wire to wire win this season! Not even the last week 50 pick fest could take him down! Well done, Mr. Hen.
Posted by Chalupa Batman View Post
As you guys have already figured out caribbeanhen was closest on the tiebreaker with an insanely close score pick, & is the 2024 survival pool champion. Congratulations!
Here are the official final results:
1. caribbeanhen: 2 (off by 1 on margin of victory, off by 1 on total score)
2. MR. CHICKEN: 10 (off by 4 on margin of victory, off by 6 on total score)
3. POD Knows: 22 (off by 17 on margin of victory, off by 5 on total score)
4. centraljerseycat: N/A (no score submitted)
PLAYOFF PICK-EM, SPRING 2021 FCS PLAYOFFS Final Standings
CONGRATULATIONS TO C-HEN FOR THE WIN!
final Standings:
Caribbean Hen 14-1
JacksFan40 12-3
KPSUL 12-3
Laker 12-3
CenMEBlackBearfan 12-3
McNeese75 12-3
Bonarae 11-4
Tribe4SF 11-4
Sir William 11-4
Palladin1AA 11-4
SonuvaHenx2 11-4
BEAR 11-4
Katfan 11-3
Mvfcfan 10-2
Schism55 10-2
PuddinTane 10-4
Ohiohen 10-5
Skinny uncle 10-5
SUPharmacist 10-5
STLawson 10-5
Gil Dobie 10-5
Preferred Walk-On 10-4
JSU Southerner 10-5
Chalupa Batman 10-5
BNation 10-4
YSUbigred 10-5
Atthewbon 9-3
Katss07 9-3
Ming01 9-3
YSUbigred 9-5
JMU007 9-5
POD Knows 9-6
TheKingpin 9-5
PAward 9-6
Libertine 9-6
CH is sore he won’t be as big a fish knowledge wise with the Hens in FBS/CUSA compared to the tiny, far fewer care about world of FCS?
79
You don’t have to worry about C H as he is transitioning to FBS very well. Thank you. Hopefully our Blue Hens can do the same.
Conference USA Pickem - Congrats Caribbean Hen
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There was just no catching Carib, as he lead this pool the entire season. A truly remarkable performance.
Now we all know who to go to for CUSA game insight next season!
As you can see, Caribbean Hen had a commanding lead:
1st - (50) Caribbean Hen
2nd - (40) Brookside kid hen
T3 - (38) 93BlueHen
T3 - (38) Blue & Gold Hen
T3 - (38) HENRY
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There was one sensible UD poster, Caribbean Hen, arguing with about 5 other UD idiots who don’t know jack squat about football...
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March 1st, 2021, 10:37 PM #5
caribbeanhen
Re: STATS FCS Top 25 Rankings 3/1/21
Watch out for Sammy, their primed for a championship run
March 1st, 2021, 10:39 PM #6
POD Knows
Quote Originally Posted by POD Knows View Post
Samford?
Caribbeanhen
Nope not them... Sam Houston State was the best team I saw on Saturday ..
https://www.anygivensaturday.com/showth ... ngs-3-1-21
MVFC Pick'em Sat 4/17
caribbeanhen wins the regular season. Congrats
We will reset the standings for the playoffs, for those irritated by my screwed up final regular season standings the correct ones are below.
1. caribbeanhen 21-9
2. skinny_uncle 19-10
3. ST_lawson 19-11
3. Bonarae 19-11
3. POD Knows 19-11
3. Chalupa Batman 19-11
7. Bear 18-10
8. TheKingpin28 18-12
8. Paladin1aa 18-12
10. ysubigred 17-9
11. Preferred Walk-on 17-10
12. Schism55 17-13
13. Daytripper 16-11
14. Professor Chaos 16-14
15. OhioHen 15-10
15. Bisonator 15-10
17. atthewbon 12-5
18. DCWIU11 11-9
19. SUpharmacist 8-15
20. Gil Dobie 7-3
21. SDFS 7-11
22. Puddin Tane 3-5
23. melloware13 2-0
24. nodak651 2-3
24. Dewey 2-3
26. The Yo Show 1-2
26. NDSUKurt 1-2
28. MVFCBeat 1-4
AGS Survivor Pool Winners:
2021: crusader11
2022: KPSUL
2023: Karl Havoc
2024: caribbeanhen
AGS Playoff Bracket Challenge - After 2nd Round, Fall 2021
With two rounds in the books, we have a new leader. OhioHen has taken an overall lead, with both caribbeanhen and ElCid just 1 pt behind.
Six players had perfect weeks (8/8) for picking winning teams, with caribbeanhen having the best week predicting scores and Pitz having the best week predicting margins of victory.
The current standings are below, and I have included the # of correct teams picked (which generally shows that the leaders tend to have the most correct, but that score/margin predictions can keep players in the running with the leaders...provided they have not missed on too many teams). Enjoy!
Player 2nd Round Total # Correct
OhioHen 160 247 15
caribbeanhen 178 246 13
ElCid 164 246 15
putter 170 242 14
FCSbuff319 158 237 14
Pitz 168 234 13
MSUBobcat 158 232 13
PLAYOFF PICK-EM, SPRING 2021 CHAMPIONSHIP GAME
FINAL ROUND, CHAMPIONSHIP GAME:
SAM HOUSTON STATE UNIVERSITY vs SOUTH DAKOTA STATE UNIVERSITY
Standings after Round three, Semifinals:
Caribbean Hen 13-1
JacksFan40 12-2
KPSUL 12-2
Laker 12-2
Bonarae 11-3
Tribe4SF 11-3
CenMEBlackBearfan 11-3
Sir William 11-3
Palladin1AA 11-3
SonuvaHenx2 11-3
BEAR 11-3
Katfan 11-3
McNeese75 11-3
2018, 11:53 PM#1
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Final MVFC prediction standings
Good evening everyone,
Edited to add 1 point for Redbird 4th & short...he picked NDSU to win in another thread. Plus he said he is buying me beers for the next NDSU at Illinois State game
Here are the final standings for the MVFC regular season, playoffs and the overall standings title.
As always if anyone sees a mistake please let me know.
REGULAR SEASON
CHAMPION = Mayville Bison
Runner-Up = dewey, TheKingpin28 & Paladin1aa
3rd place = caribbeanhen

Yet you quoted me, stalker.Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:04 pmI just wanted BDK to see that post he made on another board 10 years ago that he probably doesn’t even remember![]()
Thank you BDK

Because you were the only one that repliedkalm wrote: ↑Tue Aug 05, 2025 6:08 pmYet you quoted me, stalker.Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:04 pm
I just wanted BDK to see that post he made on another board 10 years ago that he probably doesn’t even remember![]()
Thank you BDK



To play devil's advocate: Murray gets blown out by everyone now, Georgia Southern & Texas State moved up more than a decade ago (and it took TX State more than a decade to not totally suck at that level), and Missouri State & Texas State were never FCS powers.89Hen wrote: ↑Tue Sep 23, 2025 8:20 am Watching some of the results of the teams that have moved up in the last decade or so last week I was wondering how Gil felt about this conversation.
Jacksonville State 45 - Murray State 10
Missouri State 42 - UT Martin 10
Georgia Southern 45 - Maine 17
Texas State 35 - Nicholls 3
Still think the power just "shifted" and didn't leave?
