Welcome back, Idaho

[Grizalltheway]

Gotcha, that sounds much better than the current clusterfuck.

[Wedgebuster]

A lot of teams fail after moving up, but I think Idaho is unique in that they actually become worse in absolute terms. The old Big Sky Vandal teams would kick the I-A/FBS Vandal teams' asses.

One tier down, but this describes UNCs attempt in FCS, the very best teams in the school's history were at the D-2 level and they were way better than today's Bears.

[dbackjon]

If they ran them as two separate, 7 member football conferences (Big Sky and Great Northwest, For example), then you would have TWO autobids.

Big Sky
NAU
SUU
Sac State
Cal Poly
UC-Davis
UNC
UND

Great Northwest
EWU
Idaho
Idaho State
Montana
Montana State
Weber State
Portland State


Play each team in your football conference (3 H, 3 A) 2 from other conference (1 H, 1 A) 3 other OOC

Yep. But goddamn, that's a long, stretched out conference from Sac State to UND.

or switch Portland and UND

[clenz]

Anyone see this quote from the presser....

"UI did not ask for deadline extension, Staben said the Big Sky was considering other members and offer provided Idaho with guaranteed spot."

[dbackjon]

Anyone see this quote from the presser....

"UI did not ask for deadline extension, Staben said the Big Sky was considering other members and offer provided Idaho with guaranteed spot."

So UNI to Big Sky?




Probably either talking about NMSU, or maybe UVU starting football?

[Mvemjsunpx]

Anyone see this quote from the presser....

"UI did not ask for deadline extension, Staben said the Big Sky was considering other members and offer provided Idaho with guaranteed spot."

So UNI to Big Sky?




Probably either talking about NMSU, or maybe UVU starting football?

This seems most likely. Expanding to 15/13 wouldn't be ideal, but the conference might be expecting UND to bolt for the MVFC/Summit at some point since their NDSU rivalry embargo is now over.

Still… NMSU has never been FCS and has no ties to the Big Sky, so them joining seems unlikely.

[dbackjon]

So UNI to Big Sky?




Probably either talking about NMSU, or maybe UVU starting football?

This seems most likely. Expanding to 15/13 wouldn't be ideal, but the conference might be expecting UND to bolt for the MVFC/Summit at some point since their NDSU rivalry embargo is now over.

Still… NMSU has never been FCS and has no ties to the Big Sky, so them joining seems unlikely.

Only ties are to NAU - but that was 60 years ago when we were in the same conference.

NMSU/NAU are still in each other's top 8 played opponents.

[Mvemjsunpx]

Here's the Vandal Board for those that can't currently find any beheading videos to watch or car crashes to rubberneck.

[clenz]

Anyone see this quote from the presser....

"UI did not ask for deadline extension, Staben said the Big Sky was considering other members and offer provided Idaho with guaranteed spot."

So UNI to Big Sky?




Probably either talking about NMSU, or maybe UVU starting football?

UNI has a better record vs the Big Sky than the MVFC

54-23-1 (69.8%) to 65.8% vs the MVFC.

Outside of Montana, those bastards, UNI dominates the Big Sky

Cal Poly 6-1
EWU 6-0
Idaho State 2-0
Montana 0-5
Montana State 2-1
North Dakota 25-13
Northern Arizona 3-1
Northern Colorado 2-1-1
Portland State 1-0
Southern Utah 5-0
Weber State 2-1


You don't want that in your conference.


NMSU is interesting. I know the MVC has some interesting in bringing the m back to the MVC if the situation is right. Wonder if the MVFC would be willing to take them.

[CAA Flagship]

By taking Idaho, the Big Sky can now cut loose NAU.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Here's the Vandal Board for those that can't currently find any beheading videos to watch or car crashes to rubberneck.

That board seems to have very little traffic? I am not used to seeing threads with so few posts in them but I didn't really look to see how old they are I guess. Just doesn't seem too active considering what it should be on a day like this.

[clenz]

Here's the Vandal Board for those that can't currently find any beheading videos to watch or car crashes to rubberneck.

That board seems to have very little traffic? I am not used to seeing threads with so few posts in them but I didn't really look to see how old they are I guess. Just doesn't seem too active considering what it should be on a day like this.

My thought as well.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

That board seems to have very little traffic? I am not used to seeing threads with so few posts in them but I didn't really look to see how old they are I guess. Just doesn't seem too active considering what it should be on a day like this.

My thought as well.

Holy shit! I went back and looked and there are some threads on the front page about 12-15 deep that haven't been posted in in 10 f'n days.

Wow, that place might be indicative of why they are in the shape they are in. That is pretty bad even for a home board isn't it?

[AZGrizFan]

So UNI to Big Sky?




Probably either talking about NMSU, or maybe UVU starting football?

UNI has a better record vs the Big Sky than the MVFC

54-23-1 (69.8%) to 65.8% vs the MVFC.

Outside of Montana, those bastards, UNI dominates the Big Sky

Northern Colorado 2-1-1

UNI should disband their football team.

[clenz]

UNI has a better record vs the Big Sky than the MVFC

54-23-1 (69.8%) to 65.8% vs the MVFC.

Outside of Montana, those bastards, UNI dominates the Big Sky

Northern Colorado 2-1-1

UNI should disband their football team.

The tie was 1925 and the loss was 1926...

[kalm]

So UNI to Big Sky?




Probably either talking about NMSU, or maybe UVU starting football?

UNI has a better record vs the Big Sky than the MVFC

54-23-1 (69.8%) to 65.8% vs the MVFC.

Outside of Montana, those bastards, UNI dominates the Big Sky

Cal Poly 6-1
EWU 6-0
Idaho State 2-0
Montana 0-5
Montana State 2-1
North Dakota 25-13
Northern Arizona 3-1
Northern Colorado 2-1-1
Portland State 1-0
Southern Utah 5-0
Weber State 2-1


You don't want that in your conference.

Why wouldn't we want UNI in the conference? It's a good program with practically the same winning percentage in the MVFC?

How many of those game were on the road?

How many of the UND wins came when they were DII?

[JohnStOnge]

A lot of teams fail after moving up, but I think Idaho is unique in that they actually become worse in absolute terms. The old Big Sky Vandal teams would kick the I-A/FBS Vandal teams' asses.

I think Northeast Louisiana...now known as Louisiana Monroe...may have been like that too. There were years when Northeast Louisiana was I-AA that they had more players drafted than LSU did. There was one year where the two starting running backs for Northeast Louisiana both started as rookies on NFL teams the next year. And they remain the only Southland Conference program to ever win a national championship...quarterbacked by a quarterback that started in a Super Bowl.

Since going I-A/FCS they have one winning season in 22 years. That was their one post season appearance and they were beaten by 45-14 by Ohio in their bowl game.

[Mvemjsunpx]

A lot of teams fail after moving up, but I think Idaho is unique in that they actually become worse in absolute terms. The old Big Sky Vandal teams would kick the I-A/FBS Vandal teams' asses.

I think Northeast Louisiana...now known as Louisiana Monroe...may have been like that too. There were years when Northeast Louisiana was I-AA that they had more players drafted than LSU did. There was one year where the two starting running backs for Northeast Louisiana both started as rookies on NFL teams the next year. And they remain the only Southland Conference program to ever win a national championship...quarterbacked by a quarterback that started in a Super Bowl.

Since going I-A/FCS they have one winning season in 22 years. That was their one post season appearance and they were beaten by 45-14 by Ohio in their bowl game.

Yeah, you make a good case for ULM's pathetic-ness. UMass could also qualify, though they haven't been FBS nearly as long.

[Mvemjsunpx]

My thought as well.

Holy shit! I went back and looked and there are some threads on the front page about 12-15 deep that haven't been posted in in 10 f'n days.

Wow, that place might be indicative of why they are in the shape they are in. That is pretty bad even for a home board isn't it?

That's the only Vandal board I know of. It was fairly active in March around the time of the Big Sky Tournament, and there are other Big Sky boards less active than that one.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Holy shit! I went back and looked and there are some threads on the front page about 12-15 deep that haven't been posted in in 10 f'n days.

Wow, that place might be indicative of why they are in the shape they are in. That is pretty bad even for a home board isn't it?

That's the only Vandal board I know of. It was fairly active in March around the time of the Big Sky Tournament, and there are other Big Sky boards less active than that one.

Just hard to believe on a day like this that there are only that many bees swarming the hive.

[DSUrocks07]

That's the only Vandal board I know of. It was fairly active in March around the time of the Big Sky Tournament, and there are other Big Sky boards less active than that one.

Just hard to believe on a day like this that there are only that many bees swarming the hive.

I remember in the build-up to this move, I think was last summer, that board was really really active with plenty saying that if they drop down theyll stop supporting them and go with Washington State or hold their noses and support BSU so I guess everyone's pretty much resigned to their fate now and they're not posting anymore.

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[Wildcat Ryan]

Would say I feel sorry for their predicament, but frankly I don't.


It's their own fault they are in this predicament and they are now reaping what they have sewn for so many years

[Brock Landers]

Hahaha, just saw this in the paper. I'm sure their fans are thrilled. I can imagine how pleasant most of them are going to be once we start encountering them. They already feel we're all beneath them.

Now that we have 3 arch rivals, how does our scheduling work? Drop EWU from the yearly arrangement?

[dbackjon]

https://www.insidehighered.com/views/20 ... race-essay

Why We're Leaving the Football Arms Race

Nevertheless, should we pursue conference affiliation, which conference makes geographic and institutional sense and what financial resources would be required to make us competitive in Group of 5 football? From a geographic perspective, the Mountain West Conference would be most desirable, but the average expenditures in that league, $38 million, are twice that of Idaho at $19 million, and literally price us out.

More typical Group of 5 expenditures, such as $29 million in the Mid-American Conference or Conference USA, still far exceed those at Idaho. In contrast, Idaho athletic expenditures are typical of Big Sky schools. Our expenditures are already subsidized by our students (though to a lesser extent than at many universities), and that subsidy is limited by our State Board of Education. Should we commit to major additional expenditures from students or donors in order to seek uncertain affiliation?

[CaseyOrourke]

This is a reset for our football program. We believe Big Sky football will be positive for our athletes and position them to succeed on the field -- our head football coach and I expect Idaho to compete for an FCS championship in 2018.

I think this is wishful thinking on their part. It sounds like they actually believe that just because they were FBS, they can just waltz into the Big Sky and suddenly become the "cock of the walk."

Frankly, they aren't much higher that North Texas is in the FBS food chain, and the world saw what we did to them last season. They better be ready to prove it on the field

Would they even be eligible to participate in the FCS playoffs?