The "BS" part of FBS

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

No **** on that one. GSU even sais it wasn't doable a couple of years right? I think I see Opie's problem now. He's one of those poor **** with the little dick that needs his team to move up so he feels special about himself. You can see it in the comments about needing to be respected by the TV viewing audience and so forth.

What kind of a **** dullard puts out the advertising angle as some immeasurable thing? What is this immeasurable thing that is bringing to the University?

Enrollment?
Students?
Grants?
Notoriety?

BCS maybe I can see where that can be said in some cases. The Sun Belt, The MAC, The WAC? You are out of your **** mind if you think for one second that the country is gonna a flying **** about you or the fact that you moved up. That's the same **** a lot of Marshall dudes used to say in that they were tired of playing second fiddle to their big brother at WV. Guess what...nothing has changed 15 yrs. later.

You keep refering to my dick. Keep your fantasies to yourself, and leave my pecker out of this please.
Advertising is important. It does indeed bring enrollment to university. Ask one of the smaller schools, who made it to the final rounds of the NCAA basketball tourney, if their enrollment rose in the wake of that run. Ask App state if their enrollment rose in the wake of all the publcity they got from beating michigan.
Ask ECU or Marshall or Boise state if their enrollment rose after leaving I-AA.
You are one of those head in the sand types. It's actually you with the inferiority complex. You know deep down that FCS is smalltime, so you do everything you can to rail against bigtime football. You're like the guy whose neighbor gets a mercedes while you still drive as hoopty, and you hate him for it. It's just sad.
Tell Bosie State that moving up was a bad idea. Go ahead. In terms of Marshall, are you serious? Do you not see that their name is more in the media now than it ever was as a I-AA. That's the whole point of going FBS, and the fact that you don't see it just shows that you're a I-AA ostritch. I know your type very well.

Enrollment went up at those schools? Wow that's a big surprise genius! Enrollment has been going up nearly everywhere including the FCS schools that don't have all that "advertisement". I ain't even saying it doesn't increase the interest when a school makes a run...any sort of a run. It ain't a run when you're some run of the mill school in low rung FBS conference.

By the way the reason that college football is on ESPN is that is one of the products they sell you fucking idiot. Acting as if it's some big advertisement in and of itself is as fucking dumb as it gets. If the product sucks nobody give a flying fuck and the product sucks in a those conferences so people don't give a shit about it.

What's all the chatter done for Marshall again? It's not like it's even done shit for them in Huntington let alone the rest of the country. The crowds at games are very negligibly bigger than they were 15 yrs. ago. So what is that big advantage again?

Now Boise State is the one success story that I will grant you. ONE. It gets them some decent notoriety by being the answer to a trivia question because whether they have been worthy or not to play for a BCS Championship they have never been allowed to.

Of course that may be your end game. You want to have absolutely no chance to play for it so you have something to bitch about later even though you knew full well going in that this would be the case. You're a whiny bitch, that's your nature.

[OpieGSU]

Enrollment went up at those schools? Wow that's a big surprise genius! Enrollment has been going up nearly everywhere including the FCS schools that don't have all that "advertisement". I ain't even saying it doesn't increase the interest when a school makes a run...any sort of a run. It ain't a run when you're some run of the mill school in low rung FBS conference.

Enrollment spiked at those schools, and it was directly attributable to high profile runs in sports that brought them national notoriety. Don't be so stupid so as not to see the obviousness of that.

By the way the reason that college football is on ESPN is that is one of the products they sell you **** idiot. Acting as if it's some big advertisement in and of itself is as **** dumb as it gets. If the product sucks nobody give a flying **** and the product sucks in a those conferences so people don't give a **** about it.

This may be the stupidest thing you've said yet. You're exactly right. They are selling a product, and when you are Marshall or Troy or whoever, and you are playing a thursday night game, then ESPN is selling YOU to the nation. That's basically a free 3 hour ad for your school on ESPN, plus the actual ads leading up to the game, plus the coverage it will get with highlights on ESPN. If you don't see the value in thet TV time, then you just don't get it.

What's all the chatter done for Marshall again? It's not like it's even done **** for them in Huntington let alone the rest of the country. The crowds at games are very negligibly bigger than they were 15 yrs. ago. So what is that big advantage again?

The big advantage is as I stated above. Ask yourself this. Do you think they are talking about FCS on the Marshall messageboard? Nope.

Now Boise State is the one success story that I will grant you. ONE. It gets them some decent notoriety by being the answer to a trivia question because whether they have been worthy or not to play for a BCS Championship they have never been allowed to.

Boise State is what every single school who moves up to FBS from FCS is looking to be. Every one. Just because there are not a lot of schools who have achieved the success of Boise, doesn't mean that the others have wasted their time.
TV contracts say it all in today's age of sports. Ask the NHL what TV contracts mean to a league. If you're not on TV, then you are NOBODY. The bottom line is that FBS schools get TV contracts, while FCS schools do not. The value of being on TV is pretty much priceless, and there isn't a damn president or A.D. in FCS or FBS who will tell you any different.

Ursus, why don't you take your bitch ass back to your boring board, and plan a lunch with your quiltig circle. I just handed you your lunch, so that ought to feed a few of you losers. Buh-bye. Thank you for flying total bastard airlines.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Enrollment went up at those schools? Wow that's a big surprise genius! Enrollment has been going up nearly everywhere including the FCS schools that don't have all that "advertisement". I ain't even saying it doesn't increase the interest when a school makes a run...any sort of a run. It ain't a run when you're some run of the mill school in low rung FBS conference.

Enrollment spiked at those schools, and it was directly attributable to high profile runs in sports that brought them national notoriety. Don't be so stupid so as not to see the obviousness of that.

By the way the reason that college football is on ESPN is that is one of the products they sell you **** idiot. Acting as if it's some big advertisement in and of itself is as **** dumb as it gets. If the product sucks nobody give a flying **** and the product sucks in a those conferences so people don't give a **** about it.

This may be the stupidest thing you've said yet. You're exactly right. They are selling a product, and when you are Marshall or Troy or whoever, and you are playing a thursday night game, then ESPN is selling YOU to the nation. That's basically a free 3 hour ad for your school on ESPN, plus the actual ads leading up to the game, plus the coverage it will get with highlights on ESPN. If you don't see the value in thet TV time, then you just don't get it.

What's all the chatter done for Marshall again? It's not like it's even done **** for them in Huntington let alone the rest of the country. The crowds at games are very negligibly bigger than they were 15 yrs. ago. So what is that big advantage again?

The big advantage is as I stated above. Ask yourself this. Do you think they are talking about FCS on the Marshall messageboard? Nope.

Now Boise State is the one success story that I will grant you. ONE. It gets them some decent notoriety by being the answer to a trivia question because whether they have been worthy or not to play for a BCS Championship they have never been allowed to.

Boise State is what every single school who moves up to FBS from FCS is looking to be. Every one. Just because there are not a lot of schools who have achieved the success of Boise, doesn't mean that the others have wasted their time.
TV contracts say it all in today's age of sports. Ask the NHL what TV contracts mean to a league. If you're not on TV, then you are NOBODY. The bottom line is that FBS schools get TV contracts, while FCS schools do not. The value of being on TV is pretty much priceless, and there isn't a damn president or A.D. in FCS or FBS who will tell you any different.

Ursus, why don't you take your bitch ass back to your boring board, and plan a lunch with your quiltig circle. I just handed you your lunch, so that ought to feed a few of you losers. Buh-bye. Thank you for flying total bastard airlines.

Numbnuts the point is that people don't give a fuck about you now, they won't give a fuck about you in the Sun Belt and so forth.

Enrollment peaked at App after the Michigan win right. They were not FBS. It was a huge win because they were FCS. Being FBS it would have been a ho hum mild upset.

Winning does breed spikes moron nobody is arguing that. You ain't a winner because your an FBS also ran from a shit hole conference moron. Being FBS does not equal the same as winning which seems to be the parallel you are trying to make.

You show me where those big jumps in enrollment came to those SunBelt Schools over your normal FCS averages and I'll buy your point.

How many times you wanna use that smae dumb ass line about going back to my own board and having lunch? You have to realize how devoid of any sort of talent you are...don't ya? I could randomly bounce the keyboard of my don't and whip your dumb ass into shape.

Let me put this in a way you'll understand.

On my board.
On this board.
hell, on your fucking chalk board...I am BCS...you are D3 dork.

[OpieGSU]

Enrollment spiked at those schools, and it was directly attributable to high profile runs in sports that brought them national notoriety. Don't be so stupid so as not to see the obviousness of that.

This may be the stupidest thing you've said yet. You're exactly right. They are selling a product, and when you are Marshall or Troy or whoever, and you are playing a thursday night game, then ESPN is selling YOU to the nation. That's basically a free 3 hour ad for your school on ESPN, plus the actual ads leading up to the game, plus the coverage it will get with highlights on ESPN. If you don't see the value in thet TV time, then you just don't get it.

The big advantage is as I stated above. Ask yourself this. Do you think they are talking about FCS on the Marshall messageboard? Nope.
Boise State is what every single school who moves up to FBS from FCS is looking to be. Every one. Just because there are not a lot of schools who have achieved the success of Boise, doesn't mean that the others have wasted their time.
TV contracts say it all in today's age of sports. Ask the NHL what TV contracts mean to a league. If you're not on TV, then you are NOBODY. The bottom line is that FBS schools get TV contracts, while FCS schools do not. The value of being on TV is pretty much priceless, and there isn't a damn president or A.D. in FCS or FBS who will tell you any different.

Ursus, why don't you take your bitch ass back to your boring board, and plan a lunch with your quiltig circle. I just handed you your lunch, so that ought to feed a few of you losers. Buh-bye. Thank you for flying total bastard airlines.

Numbnuts the point is that people don't give a **** about you now, they won't give a **** about you in the Sun Belt and so forth.

Enrollment peaked at App after the Michigan win right. They were not FBS. It was a huge win because they were FCS. Being FBS it would have been a ho hum mild upset.

Winning does breed spikes moron nobody is arguing that. You ain't a winner because your an FBS also ran from a **** hole conference moron. Being FBS does not equal the same as winning which seems to be the parallel you are trying to make.

You show me where those big jumps in enrollment came to those SunBelt Schools over your normal FCS averages and I'll buy your point.

Look at the growth at Troy and USF since they moved up. Those are just two examples. In adition, you ought to look atthe facilities in the Sunbelt, compare them to the vast majority of FCS schools, and get back to me. There might be 2 or 3 FCS schools with facilities that are worthy of the Sunbelt.

I could randomly bounce the keyboard of my don't and whip your dumb ass into shape.

Let me put this in a way you'll understand.

On my board.
On this board.
hell, on your **** chalk board...I am BCS...you are D3 dork.

Wow. You are a real wordsmith there, bud.
Whatever you're bouncing off your keyboard, please be careful. You could hurt yourself and never have kids.
Homey, you're not BCS, you're Pop Warner for fat kids. get a grip.

[ChetSteadman]

Please explain the enrollment growth at western Carolina and UNC-Asheville. It can't be attributed to football (for obvious reasons)

[OpieGSU]

Please explain the enrollment growth at western Carolina and UNC-Asheville. It can't be attributed to football (for obvious reasons)

Please explain the stupidity of this question first.

[ChetSteadman]

Please explain the enrollment growth at western Carolina and UNC-Asheville. It can't be attributed to football (for obvious reasons)

Please explain the stupidity of this question first.

Well, you say that all sorts of schools are seeing bumps in enrollment due to football. Im just pointing out two holes in your theory - dumb fuck. The majority of schools, especially non-flagship state universities have experienced huge growth over the last decade. It has little to nothing to do with football. Everyone else but your dumb ass can understand that all.
Your own school grew by nearly 5,000 between 2004-2009, and we know it had nothing to do with success on the football field (cough...Van Border...cough)

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Please explain the stupidity of this question first.

Well, you say that all sorts of schools are seeing bumps in enrollment due to football. Im just pointing out two holes in your theory - dumb fuck. The majority of schools, especially non-flagship state universities have experienced huge growth over the last decade. It has little to nothing to do with football. Everyone else but your dumb ass can understand that all.
Your own school grew by nearly 5,000 between 2004-2009, and we know it had nothing to do with success on the football field (cough...Van Border...cough)

Chet sees the point I was making quite clearly so I'll go ahead and attribute Opie's not understanding it to pure dumbfuckery.

FBS move ups may be good for some schools I ain't even saying that it doesn't work for them but the cherry picking and using things like enrollment going up when they are going up everywhere with or without FBS contracts is just fucking stupid.

GSU can't afford to move up Opie. You guys ain't right for the move and I think there was a study that said that already. Blame Sam Baker all you want but you guys are like a lot of other schools right now and just not ready to do it. You are what you are.

[citdog]

barelylegal seems to think, because he said it above, that more teams are looking to "move up" than are happy being FCS. That's NOT EVEN TRUE IN OUR OWN CONFERENCE, as much as it pains me to have to include him with us, only 1 school has the delusions of grandeur. Pigs Ass isn't going anywhere and he should just give it up (no homo) as it is a "LOST CAUSE".

[Rob Iola]

barelylegal seems to think, because he said it above, that more teams are looking to "move up" than are happy being FCS. That's NOT EVEN TRUE IN OUR OWN CONFERENCE, as much as it pains me to have to include him with us, only 1 school has the delusions of grandeur. Pigs Ass isn't going anywhere and he should just give it up (no homo) as it is a "LOST CAUSE".

This is all Sam Baker's fault...

[OpieGSU]

Please explain the stupidity of this question first.

Well, you say that all sorts of schools are seeing bumps in enrollment due to football. Im just pointing out two holes in your theory - dumb ****. The majority of schools, especially non-flagship state universities have experienced huge growth over the last decade. It has little to nothing to do with football. Everyone else but your dumb ass can understand that all.
Your own school grew by nearly 5,000 between 2004-2009, and we know it had nothing to do with success on the football field (cough...Van Border...cough)

Moron, did it occur to you that enrollment growth could be attributable to different factors at different schools? Your reasoning is so stupid, I have to laugh.
My position is that schools that have moved up to FBS or gained other national notoriety in sports, have seen enrollment spikes because of that higher profile. My position IS NOT that all enrollment spikes at all colleges are due to FBS or sporting success.

So, no, you haven't pointed out any holes in my argument. The only holes are the ones in your illogical thought process.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Well, you say that all sorts of schools are seeing bumps in enrollment due to football. Im just pointing out two holes in your theory - dumb ****. The majority of schools, especially non-flagship state universities have experienced huge growth over the last decade. It has little to nothing to do with football. Everyone else but your dumb ass can understand that all.
Your own school grew by nearly 5,000 between 2004-2009, and we know it had nothing to do with success on the football field (cough...Van Border...cough)

Moron, did it occur to you that enrollment growth could be attributable to different factors at different schools? Your reasoning is so stupid, I have to laugh.
My position is that schools that have moved up to FBS or gained other national notoriety in sports, have seen enrollment spikes because of that higher profile. My position IS NOT that all enrollment spikes at all colleges are due to FBS or sporting success.

So, no, you haven't pointed out any holes in my argument. The only holes are the ones in your illogical thought process.

Enrollment is up everywhere dullard. Please support your statement that this is the reason it's up at the few places that have gonne FBS and that it would not have been up anyway without all that high profile exposure that a very small part of the country was bothering watching as far as the SB and so forth.

[OpieGSU]

Enrollment is up everywhere dullard. Please support your statement that this is the reason it's up at the few places that have gonne FBS and that it would not have been up anyway without all that high profile exposure that a very small part of the country was bothering watching as far as the SB and so forth.

Troy moved up in 2002. Here's a report from 2002 from Troy State University,about the spike in enrollment they experienced.
Read the last 2 paragraphs where the president specifically cites moving up as a reason for the spike, and talks about the importance of sports for marketing. Then shut the eff up and go enjoy your lunch of raw crow, bitch.
http://www.troy.edu/news/archives/2002/ ... llment.htm

You just got Opied.

[citdog]

Enrollment is up everywhere dullard. Please support your statement that this is the reason it's up at the few places that have gonne FBS and that it would not have been up anyway without all that high profile exposure that a very small part of the country was bothering watching as far as the SB and so forth.

Troy moved up in 2002. Here's a report from 2002 from Troy State University,about the spike in enrollment they experienced.
Read the last 2 paragraphs where the president specifically cites moving up as a reason for the spike, and talks about the importance of sports for marketing. Then shut the eff up and go enjoy your lunch of raw crow, bitch.
http://www.troy.edu/news/archives/2002/ ... llment.htm

You just got Opied.

"our move to the sunbelt conference has been a complete failure and a gigantic waste of money"

not likely to be heard out of the mouth of the person responsible EVEN THOUGH it's TRUE.

[OpieGSU]

Troy moved up in 2002. Here's a report from 2002 from Troy State University,about the spike in enrollment they experienced.
Read the last 2 paragraphs where the president specifically cites moving up as a reason for the spike, and talks about the importance of sports for marketing. Then shut the eff up and go enjoy your lunch of raw crow, bitch.
http://www.troy.edu/news/archives/2002/ ... llment.htm

You just got Opied.

"our move to the sunbelt conference has been a complete failure and a gigantic waste of money"

not likely to be heard out of the mouth of the person responsible EVEN THOUGH it's TRUE.

The only failure around here is you citdog.
This argument is over. Unless either Ursus anus or his lapdog, citdog, can come up with something to refute the point made by Troys' president, then I win. boo hoo for you.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

"our move to the sunbelt conference has been a complete failure and a gigantic waste of money"

not likely to be heard out of the mouth of the person responsible EVEN THOUGH it's TRUE.

The only failure around here is you citdog.
This argument is over. Unless either Ursus anus or his lapdog, citdog, can come up with something to refute the point made by Troys' president, then I win. boo hoo for you.

I don't need to come up with anything dope. You provide a president's statement (seems kind of biased wouldn't you say) that says the spike at that universtiy is due to the move up and yet there is a spike at WCU, Montana, fucking everywhere without the FBS move.

How in the fuck is that possible?

It has very fucking little to do with them going to the SunBelt/FBS and very much to do with a greater percentage of high school students going to collleges of all levels.

Sorry to point out the stupidity of your argument but just look at me as helping you work on a better argument or even possibly realize that your cock won't grow because your team goes FBS.

Yeah, that's right Opie, I'm thinking about your cock again. I'm also gonna go have lunch, and I am still posting on my board as well.

The fact that you are fighting this hard to get your point out about a shitty conference like the SB shows how much you care about how others look at you. Poor bastard.

[OpieGSU]

Dude, you are really pathetic. The university president himself says that the move up was an important part of their enrollment increase, yet you think you know better than him from behind your keyboard in bum f*ck Montana. hahah.
ok.
By the way, you seem like a really angry guy. Try some yoga or meditation or something, yo.
I'm sorry you lost the argument. I really am. Maybe later you'll come up with something real to back up your ridiculous argument.
You ever heard of market forces, douche? Well there is a clear market force that you FCS rubes just refuse to recognize when it comes to the FCS v. FBS thing. If going I-A/FBS wasn't worth it(as troy's president's statement shows) then there simply wouldn't be so many schools who look to make that jump.
Troy's presdent told you that the move meant a lot for marketing the University. It's a shame you're too stupid to take the man at his word.

[grizzaholic]

Dude, you are really pathetic. The university president himself says that the move up was an important part of their enrollment increase, yet you think you know better than him from behind your keyboard in bum f*ck Montana. hahah.
ok.
By the way, you seem like a really angry guy. Try some yoga or meditation or something, yo.
I'm sorry you lost the argument. I really am. Maybe later you'll come up with something real to back up your ridiculous argument.
You ever heard of market forces, douche? Well there is a clear market force that you FCS rubes just refuse to recognize when it comes to the FCS v. FBS thing. If going I-A/FBS wasn't worth it(as troy's president's statement shows) then there simply wouldn't be so many schools who look to make that jump.
Troy's presdent told you that the move meant a lot for marketing the University. It's a shame you're too stupid to take the man at his word.

You wouldn't happen to be Axleale?

[OpieGSU]

Don't know axelale. I do know that Ursus anus got owned.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Don't know axelale. I do know that Ursus anus got owned.

Sure. I've had you running around without even putting an ounce of thought into this one yet.

You're wrong and you know you don't have a leg to stand on with that "The president said" shit. Hell let's assume the president isn't trying to say "Hey what we did was good and here's why" and just go ahead and explain why it's happening everywhere and not just at those FBS cocks you like housing in your mouth.

[OpieGSU]

Don't know axelale. I do know that Ursus anus got owned.

Sure. I've had you running around without even putting an ounce of thought into this one yet.

You're wrong and you know you don't have a leg to stand on with that "The president said" ****. Hell let's assume the president isn't trying to say "Hey what we did was good and here's why" and just go ahead and explain why it's happening everywhere and not just at those FBS cocks you like housing in your mouth.

I'm sure the president of Troy is lying to protect himself. Right. From what? Everybody at Troy is stoked about their move Beats the hell out of sorry FCS. You really make me laugh. You got proved wrong, dude. Give it up.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Sure. I've had you running around without even putting an ounce of thought into this one yet.

You're wrong and you know you don't have a leg to stand on with that "The president said" ****. Hell let's assume the president isn't trying to say "Hey what we did was good and here's why" and just go ahead and explain why it's happening everywhere and not just at those FBS cocks you like housing in your mouth.

I'm sure the president of Troy is lying to protect himself. Right. From what? Everybody at Troy is stoked about their move Beats the hell out of sorry FCS. You really make me laugh. You got proved wrong, dude. Give it up.

I've said several times that they have had the spike and if you or he wants to contribute it to that great, wrong in large part but good enough. You have yet to explain how it has happened at all the FCS schools as well though. Please tell us how that happened?

You ain't proved shit and for that matter don't have an answer for that very simple question. You're at a cute age son keep working on your defense though...and your offense for that matter.

[ChetSteadman]

I'm sure the president of Troy is lying to protect himself. Right. From what? Everybody at Troy is stoked about their move Beats the hell out of sorry FCS. You really make me laugh. You got proved wrong, dude. Give it up.

I've said several times that they have had the spike and if you or he wants to contribute it to that great, wrong in large part but good enough. You have yet to explain how it has happened at all the FCS schools as well though. Please tell us how that happened?

You ain't proved shit and for that matter don't have an answer for that very simple question. You're at a cute age son keep working on your defense though...and your offense for that matter.

I washed my car on Saturday and on Sunday, it rained. In opus' feeble mind, the rain was caused only by washing my car. There are absolutely no external factors whatsoever.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

I've said several times that they have had the spike and if you or he wants to contribute it to that great, wrong in large part but good enough. You have yet to explain how it has happened at all the FCS schools as well though. Please tell us how that happened?

You ain't proved shit and for that matter don't have an answer for that very simple question. You're at a cute age son keep working on your defense though...and your offense for that matter.

I washed my car on Saturday and on Sunday, it rained. In opus' feeble mind, the rain was caused only by washing my car. There are absolutely no external factors whatsoever.

I do love his attachment to specious reasoning. It's just another wonderful facet to go along with everything else. The best part is that he wants his team to go to a shit conference...that's the carrot? On top of that his school has already said the can't make the grade to get to even the level that ranks below some of the FCS conferences with all the extra money and scholly's they get to use...still worse as a conference...and can't make that cut.

It's kinda fun to watch his unhappiness unfold like this. Poor bastard.

[DJH]

Edit: nevermind. Just realized opie is a retard it it isn't worth it.