Fixing America

[CID1990]

After thinking about this for a day my answer is we need to fix ourselves. Government ain’t gonna fix us no matter how many bandaids we apply.

Ok who nipped klam’s password?


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[Ivytalk]

After thinking about this for a day my answer is we need to fix ourselves. Government ain’t gonna fix us no matter how many bandaids we apply.

Ok who nipped klam’s password?


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Either Jimmy Carter or Father Guido Sarducci

[kalm]

After thinking about this for a day my answer is we need to fix ourselves. Government ain’t gonna fix us no matter how many bandaids we apply.

Ok who nipped klam’s password?


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You might be surprised how popular this sentiment is among many on the political left.

[Ivytalk]

Ok who nipped klam’s password?


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You might be surprised how popular this sentiment is among many on the political left.

Sure, the political left fervently believes in “fixing” conservatives. Themselves, not so much.

“First cast out the beam from thine own eye.”

[AZGrizFan]

Here’s a couple to add under Government, given the strange ramblings of the current bunch of octogenarians occupying positions of power:

* Upon reaching the age of 65, you shall be permitted to complete your current term and then are NOT ABLE to hold public office.
* Eliminate lifetime appointments for SC. Term expires at 65 and replacement will be selected using the current format.

These half looney dementia-ridden 78-85 year olds we’ve got as President, SotH, SC Justices, etc., etc….its fucking embarrassing and dangerous for the country.

[Ivytalk]

Here’s a couple to add under Government, given the strange ramblings of the current bunch of octogenarians occupying positions of power:

* Upon reaching the age of 65, you shall be permitted to complete your current term and then are NOT ABLE to hold public office.
* Eliminate lifetime appointments for SC. Term expires at 65 and replacement will be selected using the current format.

These half looney dementia-ridden 78-85 year olds we’ve got as President, SotH, SC Justices, etc., etc….its fucking embarrassing and dangerous for the country.

Most law firms I know of put their partners out to pasture between the ages of 65 and 70. Reduces the malpractice risk, and skills invariably decline with age. No reason to treat public service any differently.

[BDKJMU]

Here’s a couple to add under Government, given the strange ramblings of the current bunch of octogenarians occupying positions of power:

* Upon reaching the age of 65, you shall be permitted to complete your current term and then are NOT ABLE to hold public office.
* Eliminate lifetime appointments for SC. Term expires at 65 and replacement will be selected using the current format.

These half looney dementia-ridden 78-85 year olds we’ve got as President, SotH, SC Justices, etc., etc….its fucking embarrassing and dangerous for the country.

Most law firms I know of put their partners out to pasture between the ages of 65 and 70. Reduces the malpractice risk, and skills invariably decline with age. No reason to treat public service any differently.

Agreed. I would make the age 70 though. Sworn in before 70th b-day, done at the end of the term or year after turning 70. So oldest Senator could be 75, POTUS 73, REP 71, SCOTUS 70, Secretary and pretty mich everyone else 70. Still would get rid 1/3 of SCOTUS, and a whole slew of Congress. Would have meant Trump couldn’t have run 2016 (was sworn in at 70). Biden couldn’t have run 2020 (was sworn in at 78). Biden wouldn’t have even been able to run in 2016 if had wanted, and not been VP Obama’s 2nd term (was sworn in at 70).

Current SCOTUS:
Breyer: 83
Thomas 73
Alito 71
Sotomayor: 67
Roberts 66 (will be 67 on 1/27)
Kagan 61
Kavanaugh 56
Gorsuch 54
Barrett 49 (will be 50 on 1/28)

Ginsburg was 87 when she croaked.

[AZGrizFan]

Most law firms I know of put their partners out to pasture between the ages of 65 and 70. Reduces the malpractice risk, and skills invariably decline with age. No reason to treat public service any differently.

Agreed. I would make the age 70 though. Sworn in before 70th b-day, done at the end of the term or year after turning 70. So oldest Senator could be 75, POTUS 73, REP 71, SCOTUS 70, Secretary and pretty mich everyone else 70. Still would get rid 1/3 of SCOTUS, and a whole slew of Congress. Would have meant Trump couldn’t have run 2016 (was sworn in at 70). Biden couldn’t have run 2020 (was sworn in at 78). Biden wouldn’t have even been able to run in 2016 if had wanted, and not been VP Obama’s 2nd term (was sworn in at 70).

Current SCOTUS:
Breyer: 83
Thomas 73
Alito 71
Sotomayor: 67
Roberts 66 (will be 67 on 1/27)
Kagan 61
Kavanaugh 56
Gorsuch 54
Barrett 49 (will be 50 on 1/28)

Ginsburg was 87 when she croaked.

Whatever, pick an age, 65, 67, 70. But it sure as FUCK ain’t 78, 80, 83, etc. These people can’t speak coherent sentences and are the most ill informed, curmudgeonly old farts I’ve ever seen…

[CID1990]

Ok who nipped klam’s password?


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You might be surprised how popular this sentiment is among many on the political left.

Given the nearly monolithic support for spending bills that will only make the problems worse?

Or am I correct when I say that Fascist Manchin isn’t the only Dem who would oppose the BBB bill?


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[houndawg]

Here’s a couple to add under Government, given the strange ramblings of the current bunch of octogenarians occupying positions of power:

* Upon reaching the age of 65, you shall be permitted to complete your current term and then are NOT ABLE to hold public office.
* Eliminate lifetime appointments for SC. Term expires at 65 and replacement will be selected using the current format.

These half looney dementia-ridden 78-85 year olds we’ve got as President, SotH, SC Justices, etc., etc….its fucking embarrassing and dangerous for the country.

Otherwise known as "the majority of the GOP".

[BDKJMU]

Here’s a couple to add under Government, given the strange ramblings of the current bunch of octogenarians occupying positions of power:

* Upon reaching the age of 65, you shall be permitted to complete your current term and then are NOT ABLE to hold public office.
* Eliminate lifetime appointments for SC. Term expires at 65 and replacement will be selected using the current format.

These half looney dementia-ridden 78-85 year olds we’ve got as President, SotH, SC Justices, etc., etc….its fucking embarrassing and dangerous for the country.

Otherwise known as "the majority of the GOP".

-Biden oldest POTUS EVER- Donk
-Oldest Senator-Donk: 88 yr old Feinstein
-Oldest member of SCOTUS- Donk- 83 yr old Breyer.
-Last member of SCOTUS to die- Donk: Ginsburg at 87.

10 Oldest current House of Reps (8 of 10 donks):
1.Don Young, 88 (Conk)
2.Eddie Bernice Johnson, 86 (Donk)
3.Alcee Hastings, 85 (Donk)
4.Grace Napolitano, 85 (Donk)
5. Bill Pascrell, 85 (Donk)
6.Hal Rogers, 84 (Conk)
7.Maxin Waters, 83 (Donk)
8.Steny Hoyer, 82 (Donk)
9.Nancy Pelosi, 81 (Donk)
10.Jim Clyburn, 81 (Donk)
https://www.oldest.org/politics/members-us-house/
Thanks for playing.

Edit: Ginsburg was 87 when she croaked, not 86.

[houndawg]

Otherwise known as "the majority of the GOP".

-Biden oldest POTUS EVER- Donk
-Oldest Senator-Donk: 88 yr old Feinstein
-Oldest member of Scotus- Donk- 83 yr old Breyer.
-Last member of SCOTUS to die- Donk: Ginsburg at 86.

10 Oldest current House of Reps (8 of 10 donks):
1.Don Young, 88 (Conk)
2.Eddie Bernice Johnson, 86 (Donk)
3.Alcee Hastings, 85 (Donk)
4.Grace Napolitano, 85 (Donk)
5. Bill Pascrell, 85 (Donk)
6.Hal Rogers, 84 (Conk)
7.Maxin Waters, 83 (Donk)
8.Steny Hoyer, 82 (Donk)
9.Nancy Pelosi, 81 (Donk)
10.Jim Clyburn, 81 (Donk)
https://www.oldest.org/politics/members-us-house/
Thanks for playing.

yeah, so the donks are just as old....your point?

You going to keep whining about age when you get the gubmint back?

[BDKJMU]

-Biden oldest POTUS EVER- Donk
-Oldest Senator-Donk: 88 yr old Feinstein
-Oldest member of Scotus- Donk- 83 yr old Breyer.
-Last member of SCOTUS to die- Donk: Ginsburg at 86.

10 Oldest current House of Reps (8 of 10 donks):
1.Don Young, 88 (Conk)
2.Eddie Bernice Johnson, 86 (Donk)
3.Alcee Hastings, 85 (Donk)
4.Grace Napolitano, 85 (Donk)
5. Bill Pascrell, 85 (Donk)
6.Hal Rogers, 84 (Conk)
7.Maxin Waters, 83 (Donk)
8.Steny Hoyer, 82 (Donk)
9.Nancy Pelosi, 81 (Donk)
10.Jim Clyburn, 81 (Donk)
https://www.oldest.org/politics/members-us-house/
Thanks for playing.

yeah, so the donks are just as old....your point?

You going to keep whining about age when you get the gubmint back?

You just got proven a dumbass, as usual..

[kalm]

You might be surprised how popular this sentiment is among many on the political left.

Given the nearly monolithic support for spending bills that will only make the problems worse?

Or am I correct when I say that Fascist Manchin isn’t the only Dem who would oppose the BBB bill?


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1). Establishment Dems aren’t the left.

2). My statement goes beyond the recent proposal.

3). Spending has and still can provide a ROI.

[CID1990]

Given the nearly monolithic support for spending bills that will only make the problems worse?

Or am I correct when I say that Fascist Manchin isn’t the only Dem who would oppose the BBB bill?


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1). Establishment Dems aren’t the left.

2). My statement goes beyond the recent proposal.

3). Spending has and still can provide a ROI.

Overwhelming evidence supports the precise opposite of your statement. The left is literally defined by its desire to wield government as the cure for everything.


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[kalm]

1). Establishment Dems aren’t the left.

2). My statement goes beyond the recent proposal.

3). Spending has and still can provide a ROI.

Overwhelming evidence supports the precise opposite of your statement. The left is literally defined by its desire to wield government as the cure for everything.


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Establishment Dems are no more left than neo-cons or never Trumpers are right. They’re both quite similar.

They all tend to support crony capitalism aka corporatism aka fascism.

[CID1990]

Overwhelming evidence supports the precise opposite of your statement. The left is literally defined by its desire to wield government as the cure for everything.


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Establishment Dems are no more left than neo-cons or never Trumpers are right. They’re both quite similar.

They all tend to support crony capitalism aka corporatism aka fascism.

I’m not talking about establishment Dems, Mr. Strawman

(you really should try a different fallacy… your go-to is the laziest one)

I’m talking about literally everyone on the left OTHER than establishment Dems.

I’ll await your evidence of this large number of non-establishment Democrats who think government is the answer, and until then I’ll just call complete horseshit on your statement.


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[houndawg]

1). Establishment Dems aren’t the left.

2). My statement goes beyond the recent proposal.

3). Spending has and still can provide a ROI.

Overwhelming evidence supports the precise opposite of your statement. The left is literally defined by its desire to wield government as the cure for everything.


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I think his point was that the Democrat establishment isn't the same thing. Which seems obvious even here.

[CID1990]

Overwhelming evidence supports the precise opposite of your statement. The left is literally defined by its desire to wield government as the cure for everything.


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I think his point was that the Democrat establishment isn't the same thing. Which seems obvious even here.

You want to jump in on this goat rope too?

Why don’t you name me a non-establishment Democrat who believes that government is not the cure for our ills?

Better yet, why not just name me a non-establishment Dem congresscritter? I’d like to know who these jackalopes are


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[AZGrizFan]

I think his point was that the Democrat establishment isn't the same thing. Which seems obvious even here.

You want to jump in on this goat rope too?

Why don’t you name me a non-establishment Democrat who believes that government is not the cure for our ills?

Better yet, why not just name me a non-establishment Dem congresscritter? I’d like to know who these jackalopes are


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Christ, even the establishment Dems think the government is the cure for our ills….

[kalm]

Establishment Dems are no more left than neo-cons or never Trumpers are right. They’re both quite similar.

They all tend to support crony capitalism aka corporatism aka fascism.

I’m not talking about establishment Dems, Mr. Strawman

(you really should try a different fallacy… your go-to is the laziest one)

I’m talking about literally everyone on the left OTHER than establishment Dems.

I’ll await your evidence of this large number of non-establishment Democrats who think government is the answer, and until then I’ll just call complete horseshit on your statement.


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Make up your mind on a target, Slappy. You said “THE left”.

Left Congress critters? Left thinkers? Left strategists? Left philosophers?

You’re all over the map.

I add something ad hominem but I wouldn’t want to be…..lazy.

[kalm]

I think his point was that the Democrat establishment isn't the same thing. Which seems obvious even here.

You want to jump in on this goat rope too?

Why don’t you name me a non-establishment Democrat who believes that government is not the cure for our ills?

Better yet, why not just name me a non-establishment Dem congresscritter? I’d like to know who these jackalopes are


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Oooh, ooooh! I got this! Jim Webb! No wait…Joe Manchin!

[CID1990]

I’m not talking about establishment Dems, Mr. Strawman

(you really should try a different fallacy… your go-to is the laziest one)

I’m talking about literally everyone on the left OTHER than establishment Dems.

I’ll await your evidence of this large number of non-establishment Democrats who think government is the answer, and until then I’ll just call complete horseshit on your statement.


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Make up your mind on a target, Slappy. You said “THE left”.

Left Congress critters? Left thinkers? Left strategists? Left philosophers?

You’re all over the map.

I add something ad hominem but I wouldn’t want to be…..lazy.

I want you to name me a non-establishment Dem who believes government is not the answer, klam. And then we can talk about this large number of them whose existence you are alleging

And I’m not talking about your neighbor down the street or somebody’s cousin since that’s the dodge you are gearing up to make.


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[CID1990]

You want to jump in on this goat rope too?

Why don’t you name me a non-establishment Democrat who believes that government is not the cure for our ills?

Better yet, why not just name me a non-establishment Dem congresscritter? I’d like to know who these jackalopes are


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Oooh, ooooh! I got this! Jim Webb! No wait…Joe Manchin!

I see

So Fascist Joe Manchin and you agree with each other that government is not the cure for our ills? While you disagree on the biggest most expansive government bill ever?


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[Ibanez]

Here’s a couple to add under Government, given the strange ramblings of the current bunch of octogenarians occupying positions of power:

* Upon reaching the age of 65, you shall be permitted to complete your current term and then are NOT ABLE to hold public office.
* Eliminate lifetime appointments for SC. Term expires at 65 and replacement will be selected using the current format.

These half looney dementia-ridden 78-85 year olds we’ve got as President, SotH, SC Justices, etc., etc….its fucking embarrassing and dangerous for the country.

I like this proposal. Increase turnover, reduce the number of blue hairs making decisions for people that'll out live them by 40+ years, decrease the stagnation in the courts by having a certain ideology lead for decades and decades.