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"White House Quietly Releases Plans For 3,415 Regulations Ahead Of Thanksgiving Holiday

While Americans are focused on what delicious foods they’re going to eat for Thanksgiving, the White House is focused on releasing its massive regulatory agenda — marking the fifth time the Obama administration has released its regulatory road map on the eve of a major holiday.

The federal Unified Agenda is the Obama administration’s regulatory road map, and it lays out thousands of regulations being finalized in the coming months. Under President Barack Obama, there has been a tradition of releasing the agenda late on Friday — and right before a major holiday........................"
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Gotta be a self-starter when you're saddled with a do-nothing congress. :coffee:
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houndawg wrote:Gotta be a self-starter when you're saddled with Harry Reid. :coffee:
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houndawg wrote:Gotta be a self-starter when you're saddled with a do-nothing congress. :coffee:
And I guess you think moose knuckles are an example of "separation of powers." :roll:
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Ivytalk wrote:
houndawg wrote:Gotta be a self-starter when you're saddled with a do-nothing congress. :coffee:
And I guess you think moose knuckles are an example of "separation of powers." :roll:
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Wow, these are all brand new regulations? That seems like a ton. Is this something they do every year? How does it stack up to other administrations?
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kalm wrote:Wow, these are all brand new regulations? That seems like a ton. Is this something they do every year? How does it stack up to other administrations?
Why don't you just go ahead and link the fvking link you want to link

Goddamn passive aggressive and smug at the same time

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CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:Wow, these are all brand new regulations? That seems like a ton. Is this something they do every year? How does it stack up to other administrations?
Why don't you just go ahead and link the fvking link you want to link

Goddamn passive aggressive and smug at the same time

you really make me want to go snap the head off a kitten, klam
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CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:Wow, these are all brand new regulations? That seems like a ton. Is this something they do every year? How does it stack up to other administrations?
Why don't you just go ahead and link the fvking link you want to link

Goddamn passive aggressive and smug at the same time

you really make me want to go snap the head off a kitten, klam
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CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:Wow, these are all brand new regulations? That seems like a ton. Is this something they do every year? How does it stack up to other administrations?
Why don't you just go ahead and link the fvking link you want to link

Goddamn passive aggressive and smug at the same time

you really make me want to go snap the head off a kitten, klam
You mean you didn't have exact same questions? :suspicious:
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kalm wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
Why don't you just go ahead and link the fvking link you want to link

Goddamn passive aggressive and smug at the same time

you really make me want to go snap the head off a kitten, klam
You mean you didn't have exact same questions? :suspicious:
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What's the scoop - you got us on the edge of our seats

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Chizzang wrote:
kalm wrote:
You mean you didn't have exact same questions? :suspicious:
Dude... you're killing me
What's the scoop - you got us on the edge of our seats

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I'm post partisan and mistrust both parties. I certainly wouldn't put it past the Obama administration in an unprecedented action to enact 3415 new regulations and dump them right before a holiday unlike what other administrations have done.

I threw out some honest questions and I think it's up to the thread author to answer them. :coffee:
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kalm wrote:Wow, these are all brand new regulations? That seems like a ton. Is this something they do every year? How does it stack up to other administrations?

Knowing Fox, it is probably less than any other administration, but when Obama does it, it is different, and he is a "King" or "Emperor" or what other code word Fox is telling its sheeple like BDKKKJMU to use to denigrate the POTUS
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Wow - rules to protect our air, water, etc. Damn that Obama, looking out for the common man and not letting corporations kill us all in the name of more profits
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dbackjon wrote:Wow - rules to protect our air, water, etc. Damn that Obama, looking out for the common man and not letting corporations kill us all in the name of more profits
2 things you mentioned. There's 3415 new rules. :dunce:
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dbackjon wrote:Wow - rules to protect our air, water, etc. Damn that Obama, looking out for the common man and not letting corporations kill us all in the name of more profits
Dback, you are a walking self-parody. Do you actually believe the crap you spew? How about regs that stifle innovation, kill jobs, and add billions of dollars of needless compliance costs? To say nothing of the rise of the liberty- killing administrative state. :ohno:

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BDKJMU wrote:
dbackjon wrote:Wow - rules to protect our air, water, etc. Damn that Obama, looking out for the common man and not letting corporations kill us all in the name of more profits
2 things you mentioned. There's 3415 new rules. :dunce:
not that I agree with Jon, but he is saying the 3415 rules are for protecting air and water among other things. God, you are dim.
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Ivytalk wrote:
dbackjon wrote:Wow - rules to protect our air, water, etc. Damn that Obama, looking out for the common man and not letting corporations kill us all in the name of more profits
Dback, you are a walking self-parody. Do you actually believe the crap you spew? How about regs that stifle innovation, kill jobs, and add billions of dollars of needless compliance costs? To say nothing of the rise of the liberty- killing administrative state. :ohno:

Oh, and Happy Thanksgiving. :coffee:
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Ivytalk wrote:
dbackjon wrote:Wow - rules to protect our air, water, etc. Damn that Obama, looking out for the common man and not letting corporations kill us all in the name of more profits
Dback, you are a walking self-parody. Do you actually believe the crap you spew? How about regs that stifle innovation, kill jobs, and add billions of dollars of needless compliance costs? To say nothing of the rise of the liberty- killing administrative state. :ohno:

Oh, and Happy Thanksgiving. :coffee:

Can you detail those rules?



Right now there is a mulch fire in Phoenix - 25 acres of a 100-foot high pile of mulch burning out of control, choking the valley in smoke, causing multiple health issues for thousands of area residents. We have these type of fires every year. Attempts to regulate get shot down by the pro-business GOP. There are ways to prevent these fires, but that would involve rules and regulations, and would cost the companies money to apply. So who takes priority? The business that will have to spend more to stay in business, or the populace, who face loss of work due to illness, loss of quality of life, restrictions on activities, etc.
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dbackjon wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:
Dback, you are a walking self-parody. Do you actually believe the crap you spew? How about regs that stifle innovation, kill jobs, and add billions of dollars of needless compliance costs? To say nothing of the rise of the liberty- killing administrative state. :ohno:

Oh, and Happy Thanksgiving. :coffee:

Can you detail those rules?


Right now there is a mulch fire in Phoenix - 25 acres of a 100-foot high pile of mulch burning out of control, choking the valley in smoke, causing multiple health issues for thousands of area residents. We have these type of fires every year. Attempts to regulate get shot down by the pro-business GOP. There are ways to prevent these fires, but that would involve rules and regulations, and would cost the companies money to apply. So who takes priority? The business that will have to spend more to stay in business, or the populace, who face loss of work due to illness, loss of quality of life, restrictions on activities, etc.
Jon, if your back is strong enough, get yourself a copy of the Federal Register. That's where the rules are. And if you think regulations will stop mulch fires, I have an iceberg in Alaska I can sell you.
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Ivytalk wrote:
dbackjon wrote:

Can you detail those rules?


Right now there is a mulch fire in Phoenix - 25 acres of a 100-foot high pile of mulch burning out of control, choking the valley in smoke, causing multiple health issues for thousands of area residents. We have these type of fires every year. Attempts to regulate get shot down by the pro-business GOP. There are ways to prevent these fires, but that would involve rules and regulations, and would cost the companies money to apply. So who takes priority? The business that will have to spend more to stay in business, or the populace, who face loss of work due to illness, loss of quality of life, restrictions on activities, etc.
Jon, if your back is strong enough, get yourself a copy of the Federal Register. That's where the rules are. And if you think regulations will stop mulch fires, I have an iceberg in Alaska I can sell you.

I am not the one bitching about them :)

Stop - no. Keep them from burning out of control for a week? yes.
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Ibanez wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
2 things you mentioned. There's 3415 new rules. :dunce:
not that I agree with Jon, but he is saying the 3415 rules are for protecting air and water among other things. God, you are dim.
If you believe any of that crap you're as ignorant as he is. :dunce:
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Ivytalk wrote:
dbackjon wrote:Wow - rules to protect our air, water, etc. Damn that Obama, looking out for the common man and not letting corporations kill us all in the name of more profits
Dback, you are a walking self-parody. Do you actually believe the crap you spew? How about regs that stifle innovation, kill jobs, and add billions of dollars of needless compliance costs? To say nothing of the rise of the liberty- killing administrative state. :ohno:

Oh, and Happy Thanksgiving. :coffee:
jon will be our next alzheimerdawg in 20 years. :nod:
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BDKJMU wrote:
Ibanez wrote: not that I agree with Jon, but he is saying the 3415 rules are for protecting air and water among other things. God, you are dim.
If you believe any of that crap you're as ignorant as he is. :dunce:
Since you didn't answer my other sincere questions, here's another. What do you think the 3415 new rules are designed to do? You've obviously found a generalized article without meat that resonates with your ideology and are now wandering into Spanos country. Congrats! :dunce:

Ivy, running a small business for the last 8 years, I can tell that it's virtually impossible to keep up with regulations on a local, state, and federal level. I'll guarantee you NO small business and probably none of the medium to large sized business are compliant. There certainly is an undue regulatory burden…at least on paper.

I've gone through a couple of audits from state agencies and they basically amount to a shake down. "We've found $47,000 worth of fines but we're willing to settle for a mere $2500." That $2500 is a fraction of what it would cost me to employ compliance personnel to make sure all of our i's are dotted.

Curiously enough, we hired Paychex last year to do payroll - something I've done myself for the previous 6 years, without any problems or penalties. In addition to doing basic payroll functions and tax filings, they also sent a salesman who had spent most of his career managing large firms to convince me to sign up for their $1200/month government compliance service. He warned me that since Obama had taken office, it was a foregone conclusion that OSHA and the EPA would come knocking within the next 6 months as they had to all of his clients and would be leveling massive fines without the services that Paychex offered. He said that all we would have to do is show that we are a Paychex client and the regulators would shake my hand and tell us to have a nice day.

Tragically, we deemed the service more than we could afford. Then our insurance agent came in with the most common list of OSHA and EPA regulations we needed to pass muster and as long as we documented the checklist and showed efforts in that regard, we'd be fine. It cost us nothing.

I wonder if Paychex is against all of these regulations? 8-)

I'd be surprised if a democratic administration is lighter on regulations, but I'm guessing the 3400 number isn't all that high and I'd be surprised if many of them are not in fact new at all, but annual tweaks on things that already exist. I also have read that the number of regulations tend to increase in the last two years of an administration. At least they did under Bush.

We have 316 million people and 3.79 million square miles of blessed country. It might take more than few sheets of paper to manage all of that.

Conks…never appreciative of what it takes to run a large, kick ass, country with clean air, water, and modern infrastructure. :ohno:
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BDKJMU wrote:
Ibanez wrote: not that I agree with Jon, but he is saying the 3415 rules are for protecting air and water among other things. God, you are dim.
If you believe any of that crap you're as ignorant as he is. :dunce:
Since you didn't answer my other sincere questions, here's another. What do you think the 3415 new rules are designed to do? You've obviously found a generalized article without meat that resonates with your ideology and are now wandering into Spanos country. Congrats! :dunce:

Ivy, running a small business for the last 8 years, I can tell that it's virtually impossible to keep up with regulations on a local, state, and federal level. I'll guarantee you NO small business and probably none of the medium to large sized business are compliant. There certainly is an undue regulatory burden…at least on paper.

I've gone through a couple of audits from state agencies and they basically amount to a shake down. "We've found $47,000 worth of fines but we're willing to settle for a mere $2500." That $2500 is a fraction of what it would cost me to employ compliance personnel to make sure all of our i's are dotted.

Curiously enough, we hired Paychex last year to do payroll - something I've done myself for the previous 6 years, without any problems or penalties. In addition to doing basic payroll functions and tax filings, they also sent a salesman who had spent most of his career managing large firms to convince me to sign up for their $1200/month government compliance service. He warned me that since Obama had taken office, it was a foregone conclusion that OSHA and the EPA would come knocking within the next 6 months as they had to all of his clients and would be leveling massive fines without the services that Paychex offered. He said that all we would have to do is show that we are a Paychex client and the regulators would shake my hand and tell us to have a nice day.

Tragically, we deemed the service more than we could afford. Then our insurance agent came in with the most common list of OSHA and EPA regulations we needed to pass muster and as long as we documented the checklist and showed efforts in that regard, we'd be fine. It cost us nothing.

I wonder if Paychex is against all of these regulations? 8-)

I'd be surprised if a democratic administration is lighter on regulations, but I'm guessing the 3400 number isn't all that high and I'd be surprised if many of them are not in fact new at all, but annual tweaks on things that already exist. I also have read that the number of regulations tend to increase in the last two years of an administration. At least they did under Bush.

We have 316 million people and 3.79 million square miles of blessed country. It might take more than few sheets of paper to manage all of that.

Conks…never appreciative of what it takes to run a large, kick ass, country with clean air, water, and modern infrastructure. :ohno:
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