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http://www.catholic.com/blog/karl-keating/myth-buster" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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I didn't read it.

The source alone appears to be quite assailable regardless of where you stand on this issue.
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Catholic.com?

Really?

I'd believe wiki long before Catholic.com
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I can't vouch for this report, but the one fact I know it has right is that the number of "new" cases involving abuse by priests is remarkably and staggeringly low. The US Church has not received any credit for how effectively it has removed offending priests from ministry and how effective it has been in cutting the rate of abuse to a decimal lower than 1%.
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JoltinJoe wrote:I can't vouch for this report, but the one fact I know it has right is that the number of "new" cases involving abuse by priests is remarkably and staggeringly low. The US Church has not received any credit for how effectively it has removed offending priests from ministry and how effective it has been in cutting the rate of abuse to a decimal lower than 1%.
New cases are lower because parents, teachers and rational adults, like you, don't trust priests anymore.
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FCS PATRIOTS wrote:http://www.catholic.com/blog/karl-keating/myth-buster

watch D1B go hide and cry on this one! :nod: :nod: :nod:
D1B won't touch this for the same reason for his faux outrage at the Catholic Church, because it proves his mindset and those of liberals were the problem and not the solution.
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SeattleGriz wrote:
FCS PATRIOTS wrote:http://www.catholic.com/blog/karl-keating/myth-buster

watch D1B go hide and cry on this one! :nod: :nod: :nod:
D1B won't touch this for the same reason for his faux outrage at the Catholic Church, because it proves his mindset and those of liberals were the problem and not the solution.
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D1B wrote:
JoltinJoe wrote:I can't vouch for this report, but the one fact I know it has right is that the number of "new" cases involving abuse by priests is remarkably and staggeringly low. The US Church has not received any credit for how effectively it has removed offending priests from ministry and how effective it has been in cutting the rate of abuse to a decimal lower than 1%.
New cases are lower because parents, teachers and rational adults, like you, don't trust priests anymore.
I think it is true parents are far more careful today and that contributes to this statistic; however, parents today are more careful concerning adult supervisors across the board -- not just in matters involving clergy. And yet the present-day rate of abuse is demonstrably higher in our schools and in other religious denominations.
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JoltinJoe wrote:
D1B wrote:
New cases are lower because parents, teachers and rational adults, like you, don't trust priests anymore.
I think it is true parents are far more careful today and that contributes to this statistic; however, parents today are more careful concerning adult supervisors across the board -- not just in matters involving clergy. And yet the present-day rate of abuse is demonstrably higher in our schools and in other religious denominations.
Parents are way more careful with priests than with others.

You, Joe, have no problem leaving your child with a baby sitter, a trusted neighbors home, a sleepover at a friend's house, but you will never allow your child to left alone or unsupervised with a priest.
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D1B wrote:
JoltinJoe wrote:
I think it is true parents are far more careful today and that contributes to this statistic; however, parents today are more careful concerning adult supervisors across the board -- not just in matters involving clergy. And yet the present-day rate of abuse is demonstrably higher in our schools and in other religious denominations.
Parents are way more careful with priests than with others.

You, Joe, have no problem leaving your child with a baby sitter, a trusted neighbors home, a sleepover at a friend's house, but you will never allow your child to left alone or unsupervised with a priest.
Caution runs both ways. Priests avoid being alone with any child today because of the stunning number of false accusations which have been made against priests by personal injury lawyers. They manufacture claims out of thin air and often have the "victims" claim repressed memory in order to explain why they took decades to "come forward."

Ironic that the most famous abuse claim ever -- against Cardinal Joseph Bernandin -- turned out to be false, with the "victim" acknowledging he had been coached by lawyers and experts into claiming "repressed memory."

If any enterprising reporter wanted to do an expose on Ander$NAP and other like syndicates, they would win a Pulitzer.
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JoltinJoe wrote:
D1B wrote:
Parents are way more careful with priests than with others.

You, Joe, have no problem leaving your child with a baby sitter, a trusted neighbors home, a sleepover at a friend's house, but you will never allow your child to left alone or unsupervised with a priest.
Caution runs both ways. Priests avoid being alone with any child today because of the stunning number of false accusations which have been made against priests by personal injury lawyers. They manufacture claims out of thin air and often have the "victims" claim repressed memory in order to explain why they took decades to "come forward."

Ironic that the most famous abuse claim ever -- against Cardinal Joseph Bernandin -- turned out to be false, with the "victim" acknowledging he had been coached by lawyers and experts into claiming "repressed memory."

If any enterprising reporter wanted to do an expose on Ander$NAP and other like syndicates, they would win a Pulitzer.

Yeah, not enough enterprising reporters who want an easy Pulitzer.
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