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by Stephen Young


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Something’s gone wrong with America. Most of us feel it but can’t put our finger on the problem.

The canary-in-the-coal-mine warning is the collapse of trust in our institutions. The percentage of Americans who lack deep, abiding trust in institutions — the kind that gets you through dark nights of the soul — as of June 2013 was as follows: in the Congress, 95 percent; in big business and newspapers, 91 percent; in banks and the criminal-justice system, 90 percent; in television news, 89 percent; in the Supreme Court, 87 percent; in public schools, 86 percent; in the presidency, 81 percent; in organized religion, 75 percent. :shock:

As trust in politicians has declined, they’ve spent ever more dollars per vote to get elected. The cost of a presidential election was $1.4 billion in 2000 and $2.6 billion in 2012. Congressional races overall cost $1.6 billion in 2000 and $3.7 billion in 2012.

Americans are not happy. Only 33 percent report themselves as being happy. The average global rate for confidence in the future is 89 percent of people surveyed. In the United States, only 67 percent are optimistic about their futures.

Confidence in our res publica is on the wane because our middle class has been in decline. This problem is so big and so dangerous that all of us need to come together in agreement that the problem is real and needs to be addressed by leaders of all factions....................

Causes:

In my judgment, there are several causes of this systemic change in our society:

One is globalization, as lower-cost economies became part of a global trading system thanks to the container box and large cargo airplanes. It suddenly made sense to transfer manufacturing overseas. But then we did not follow the German and Japanese examples of growing our manufacturing capability into value-added niche products to sustain factory employment.

Second, postindustrialization used new technologies to reduce the labor component of many tasks. This had the secondary effect of adding educational requirements to many jobs, which discriminated against those with lower skills.

A third cause was the growth of financial services as an industry extracting rent from the productive economy.

A fourth cause was the invention of new consumer credit mechanisms. Debt replaced savings as a source of funds for many Americans.

A fifth cause was the cost imposed on economic activity by higher taxes and regulations. No matter how well-intended, taxes and regulations have a depressing effect on the economic activity that sustains a middle class.

The rich have their investments. The poor have their government transfer payments. The middle class needs jobs.

Rebuilding our middle class demands a coalition of all Americans. Raising taxes will not bring back the middle class. Cutting government will not bring back the middle class. The cherished ideologies of the left and the right are not relevant to reversing our national decline.

They only speak to the conflicting interests of the rich and the poor — not to the crisis of the middle.



Interesting history lesson in the middle, too. Recommend a read.
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Big cargo airplanes have killed America. That's funny right there.

Not really disagreeing with anything in the article you posted, just questioning if any of it could have been avoided. I don't think so. I read a book just recently that questioned whether a middle class, like what we saw develop in America after WWII, is really something that is realistic to have in the future. It didn't exist prior to that that, and it's becoming increasingly clear that it won't exist like that in the future. There are the haves and the have nots and this country, and the world, are clearly moving in that direction. How does one expect to create and sustain a middle class that doesn't requite the middle class to have or develop skills going forward? Like I said, it worked great in a world that was war torn and unautomated back in the '50's, but it doesn't translate well now in a world that is relatively peaceful and increasingly technologically advanced. You have to really buckle up these days, it's a tough world out there and hoping to get by and live comfortably while not working hard is becoming less and less possible.
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GannonFan wrote:Big cargo airplanes have killed America. That's funny right there.

Not really disagreeing with anything in the article you posted, just questioning if any of it could have been avoided. I don't think so. I read a book just recently that questioned whether a middle class, like what we saw develop in America after WWII, is really something that is realistic to have in the future. It didn't exist prior to that that, and it's becoming increasingly clear that it won't exist like that in the future. There are the haves and the have nots and this country, and the world, are clearly moving in that direction. How does one expect to create and sustain a middle class that doesn't requite the middle class to have or develop skills going forward? Like I said, it worked great in a world that was war torn and unautomated back in the '50's, but it doesn't translate well now in a world that is relatively peaceful and increasingly technologically advanced. You have to really buckle up these days, it's a tough world out there and hoping to get by and live comfortably while not working hard is becoming less and less possible.
You said it all in that last sentence.

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I'd throw in hyper-consumption by Americans as another cause. I'm not sure when the switch got flipped, but Americans in many cases will forego necessities to have what were once discretionary items. The infatuation with having an iphone 5s instead of the lowly iphone 4 simply because Apple's marketing machine has told you that you have to have it is one example. Standing in line at the grocery store behind someone using EBT that has a couple of thousand bucks in ink on their arms is another. You can't blame someone for wanting more than they have to some extent, but when you put basic needs on the back burner to finance them then there's a problem in the system. American consumer savings rates are horribly low and have been trending down since the mid-80's.

The rest of the world counts on the US to be the consumption engine to finance their burgeoning industries. We've adopted a disposable mindset with regard to having things - your TV blows up? Buy a new one, because it would cost more to repair it (if you can find anyone who does that anymore). Don't like your furniture? Buy new stuff. Rooms to go will let me finance it for three years with no interest so it's a no brainer vs. recovering it, right?

We're all guilty of it at varying levels - it's the classic "keep up with the neighbors" dilemma. To one of Cappy's points, this behavior impacts the ability of middle class folks to acquire wealth via personal savings. It should be a mandatory part of curriculums in high school and college to take a money management course so people can once again learn how to live within their means.
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GannonFan wrote:Big cargo airplanes have killed America. That's funny right there.

Not really disagreeing with anything in the article you posted, just questioning if any of it could have been avoided. I don't think so. I read a book just recently that questioned whether a middle class, like what we saw develop in America after WWII, is really something that is realistic to have in the future. It didn't exist prior to that that, and it's becoming increasingly clear that it won't exist like that in the future. There are the haves and the have nots and this country, and the world, are clearly moving in that direction. How does one expect to create and sustain a middle class that doesn't requite the middle class to have or develop skills going forward? Like I said, it worked great in a world that was war torn and unautomated back in the '50's, but it doesn't translate well now in a world that is relatively peaceful and increasingly technologically advanced. You have to really buckle up these days, it's a tough world out there and hoping to get by and live comfortably while not working hard is becoming less and less possible.
Way to respond to one oversimplification with an even bigger one. :lol: Yeah, that's the problem; Americans just aren't willing to work hard anymore. Nevermind the fact that worker productivity is at an all-time high, while real wages have basically stagnated. :dunce:
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Grizalltheway wrote:
GannonFan wrote:Big cargo airplanes have killed America. That's funny right there.

Not really disagreeing with anything in the article you posted, just questioning if any of it could have been avoided. I don't think so. I read a book just recently that questioned whether a middle class, like what we saw develop in America after WWII, is really something that is realistic to have in the future. It didn't exist prior to that that, and it's becoming increasingly clear that it won't exist like that in the future. There are the haves and the have nots and this country, and the world, are clearly moving in that direction. How does one expect to create and sustain a middle class that doesn't requite the middle class to have or develop skills going forward? Like I said, it worked great in a world that was war torn and unautomated back in the '50's, but it doesn't translate well now in a world that is relatively peaceful and increasingly technologically advanced. You have to really buckle up these days, it's a tough world out there and hoping to get by and live comfortably while not working hard is becoming less and less possible.
Way to respond to one oversimplification with an even bigger one. :lol: Yeah, that's the problem; Americans just aren't willing to work hard anymore. Nevermind the fact that worker productivity is at an all-time high, while real wages have basically stagnated...... :dunce:
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Bison Fan in NW MN wrote:
GannonFan wrote:Big cargo airplanes have killed America. That's funny right there.

Not really disagreeing with anything in the article you posted, just questioning if any of it could have been avoided. I don't think so. I read a book just recently that questioned whether a middle class, like what we saw develop in America after WWII, is really something that is realistic to have in the future. It didn't exist prior to that that, and it's becoming increasingly clear that it won't exist like that in the future. There are the haves and the have nots and this country, and the world, are clearly moving in that direction. How does one expect to create and sustain a middle class that doesn't requite the middle class to have or develop skills going forward? Like I said, it worked great in a world that was war torn and unautomated back in the '50's, but it doesn't translate well now in a world that is relatively peaceful and increasingly technologically advanced. You have to really buckle up these days, it's a tough world out there and hoping to get by and live comfortably while not working hard is becoming less and less possible.
You said it all in that last sentence.

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He did but not in the way he thought. Most of you aren't old enough to remember but the middle class was built on the fact that if you worked hard and paid your dues you would advance. It isn't like that now. Its amazing that people wonder how somebody that has a minimum wage job that doesn't make it possible to both pay rent and eat doesn't see the point in working. But thanks for letting us in on it being a tough world out there.
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Grizalltheway wrote:
GannonFan wrote:Big cargo airplanes have killed America. That's funny right there.

Not really disagreeing with anything in the article you posted, just questioning if any of it could have been avoided. I don't think so. I read a book just recently that questioned whether a middle class, like what we saw develop in America after WWII, is really something that is realistic to have in the future. It didn't exist prior to that that, and it's becoming increasingly clear that it won't exist like that in the future. There are the haves and the have nots and this country, and the world, are clearly moving in that direction. How does one expect to create and sustain a middle class that doesn't requite the middle class to have or develop skills going forward? Like I said, it worked great in a world that was war torn and unautomated back in the '50's, but it doesn't translate well now in a world that is relatively peaceful and increasingly technologically advanced. You have to really buckle up these days, it's a tough world out there and hoping to get by and live comfortably while not working hard is becoming less and less possible.
Way to respond to one oversimplification with an even bigger one. :lol: Yeah, that's the problem; Americans just aren't willing to work hard anymore. Nevermind the fact that worker productivity is at an all-time high, while real wages have basically stagnated. :dunce:
Ok, so what's the solution?
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GannonFan wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
Way to respond to one oversimplification with an even bigger one. :lol: Yeah, that's the problem; Americans just aren't willing to work hard anymore. Nevermind the fact that worker productivity is at an all-time high, while real wages have basically stagnated. :dunce:
Ok, so what's the solution?
I honestly have no idea. I do know that we should be electing people a lot smarter than me who actually have the best interests of the American people, and not just a select few, at heart.
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GannonFan wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
Way to respond to one oversimplification with an even bigger one. :lol: Yeah, that's the problem; Americans just aren't willing to work hard anymore. Nevermind the fact that worker productivity is at an all-time high, while real wages have basically stagnated. :dunce:
Ok, so what's the solution?

None of us know the solution, Ganny, including you. Only the further evolution of American society and its institutions will tell.
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Grizalltheway wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
Ok, so what's the solution?
I honestly have no idea. I do know that we should be electing people a lot smarter than me who actually have the best interests of the American people, and not just a select few, at heart.
Somebody on here once said "the world will always need plumbers and electricians" which are honorable trades where you can make a solid living. Too many kids these days are being pressured into college like many of us were but not taking into account that in today's world having a political science, criminal justice, or philosophy degree don't necessarily allow you to step into another career field like they once were. Employers can afford to be choosy and get exactly what they want in a candidate, and there's nothing wrong with doing an apprenticeship, going to community college, or taking another route to get a good paying job.
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ASUG8 wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
I honestly have no idea. I do know that we should be electing people a lot smarter than me who actually have the best interests of the American people, and not just a select few, at heart.
Somebody on here once said "the world will always need plumbers and electricians" which are honorable trades where you can make a solid living. Too many kids these days are being pressured into college like many of us were but not taking into account that in today's world having a political science, criminal justice, or philosophy degree don't necessarily allow you to step into another career field like they once were. Employers can afford to be choosy and get exactly what they want in a candidate, and there's nothing wrong with doing an apprenticeship, going to community college, or taking another route to get a good paying job.
Agreed.
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ASUG8 wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
I honestly have no idea. I do know that we should be electing people a lot smarter than me who actually have the best interests of the American people, and not just a select few, at heart.
Somebody on here once said "the world will always need plumbers and electricians" which are honorable trades where you can make a solid living. Too many kids these days are being pressured into college like many of us were but not taking into account that in today's world having a political science, criminal justice, or philosophy degree don't necessarily allow you to step into another career field like they once were. Employers can afford to be choosy and get exactly what they want in a candidate, and there's nothing wrong with doing an apprenticeship, going to community college, or taking another route to get a good paying job.
Very true. I know Montana, for one, has started putting a lot more money into its two year colleges that tend to focus more on technical fields and trades. Hopefully other states are doing the same.
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