http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/0 ... 06207.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;WASHINGTON, Aug 5 (Reuters) - A secretive U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration unit is funneling information from intelligence intercepts, wiretaps, informants and a massive database of telephone records to authorities across the nation to help them launch criminal investigations of Americans.
Although these cases rarely involve national security issues, documents reviewed by Reuters show that law enforcement agents have been directed to conceal how such investigations truly begin - not only from defense lawyers but also sometimes from prosecutors and judges.
The undated documents show that federal agents are trained to "recreate" the investigative trail to effectively cover up where the information originated, a practice that some experts say violates a defendant's Constitutional right to a fair trial. If defendants don't know how an investigation began, they cannot know to ask to review potential sources of exculpatory evidence - information that could reveal entrapment, mistakes or biased witnesses....
A former federal agent in the northeastern United States who received such tips from SOD described the process. "You'd be told only, 'Be at a certain truck stop at a certain time and look for a certain vehicle.' And so we'd alert the state police to find an excuse to stop that vehicle, and then have a drug dog search it," the agent said.
"PARALLEL CONSTRUCTION"
After an arrest was made, agents then pretended that their investigation began with the traffic stop, not with the SOD tip, the former agent said. The training document reviewed by Reuters refers to this process as "parallel construction."Lawrence Lustberg, a New Jersey defense lawyer, said any systematic government effort to conceal the circumstances under which cases begin "would not only be alarming but pretty blatantly unconstitutional."
Lustberg and others said the government's use of the SOD program skirts established court procedures by which judges privately examine sensitive information, such as an informant's identity or classified evidence, to determine whether the information is relevant to the defense...
One current federal prosecutor learned how agents were using SOD tips after a drug agent misled him, the prosecutor told Reuters. In a Florida drug case he was handling, the prosecutor said, a DEA agent told him the investigation of a U.S. citizen began with a tip from an informant. When the prosecutor pressed for more information, he said, a DEA supervisor intervened and revealed that the tip had actually come through the SOD and from an NSA intercept.
"I was pissed," the prosecutor said. "Lying about where the information came from is a bad start if you're trying to comply with the law because it can lead to all kinds of problems with discovery and candor to the court." The prosecutor never filed charges in the case because he lost confidence in the investigation, he said.
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DEA using NSA Eavesdropping
Ok...I hope this one turns out more legit than my last NSA thread.

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This is where I get a little conflicted on the NSA wiretaps. While I'd love to be invisible to the government (I don't really do anything of interest anyway
) I get that sometimes having this information allows law enforcement to circumvent terrorist plots and the like. However, this reconstruction of discovery is simply a way to get around the 4th amendment, and in the wrong hands we truly do border on leaning toward an Orwellian society. 
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Dude, it is the wrong hands.ASUG8 wrote:..... and in the wrong hands we truly do border on leaning toward an Orwellian society.

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+1CitadelGrad wrote:Dude, it is the wrong hands.ASUG8 wrote:..... and in the wrong hands we truly do border on leaning toward an Orwellian society.
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Constructed by Bush.CitadelGrad wrote:Dude, it is the wrong hands.ASUG8 wrote:..... and in the wrong hands we truly do border on leaning toward an Orwellian society.
Either this is disturbing regardless of who is President or are not
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But we've got to hold somebody accountable... at some point don't we..?dbackjon wrote:Constructed by Bush.CitadelGrad wrote:
Dude, it is the wrong hands.
Either this is disturbing regardless of who is President or are not
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Then why try to deflect the problem at hand. Bush is not around...time for you to go full guns after Obama. The sack of shvt lied to you and everyone else, so you can stop the "Bush did it crap". No one is going after Truman, Johnson, or Nixon...so why continue your tired whining about someone who hasn't made a decision since early 2008.dbackjon wrote:Constructed by Bush.CitadelGrad wrote:
Dude, it is the wrong hands.
Either this is disturbing regardless of who is President or are not
It is August of 2013. Hold Obama accountable NOW.
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I agree with your point completelyCluck U wrote: Then why try to deflect the problem at hand. Bush is not around...time for you to go full guns after Obama. The sack of shvt lied to you and everyone else, so you can stop the "Bush did it crap". No one is going after Truman, Johnson, or Nixon...so why continue your tired whining about someone who hasn't made a decision since early 2008.
It is August of 2013. Hold Obama accountable NOW.
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