So fucking a 12 year old is ok but having a sex change makes one a pervert???? I don't follow your "logic".JohnStOnge wrote:Pervert. Tough pervert. But still a pervert.
No, dude, you were not an Amazon woman in disguise. You were not and are not a woman. You will never be a woman. Your sex chromosomes are XY. You're male. And you're a sick puppy."It was weird that I could grow a beard and trick them into thinking I was one of them – and really I'm an Amazon woman in disguise as a U.S. military guy in disguise as a Pashtun!"
Actually, if what you're talking about is a sexually mature member of one sex having sex with a sexually mature member of the opposite sex who is 12 years old, the answer is "yes." Biologically, that is perfectly normal. And being born with XY chromosomes then having your penis cut off, getting injected with hormones, etc., so you can pretend to be a woman does make you a pervert.So **** a 12 year old is ok but having a sex change makes one a pervert????
You got that shit right!Cluck U wrote:http://www.nbcnews.com/id/21134540/vp=5 ... �
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... s/2388431/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"In the super-secret world of the Navy SEAL, Chris Beck carried around an explosive secret of his own during his 20 years with the elite, all-male unit: a transgender life."
Ugly either way, but I suppose someone here would hit it.
JohnStOnge wrote:Actually, if what you're talking about is a sexually mature member of one sex having sex with a sexually mature member of the opposite sex who is 12 years old, the answer is "yes." Biologically, that is perfectly normal. And being born with XY chromosomes then having your penis cut off, getting injected with hormones, etc., so you can pretend to be a woman does make you a pervert.So **** a 12 year old is ok but having a sex change makes one a pervert????
That is not to say that there aren't reasons for making the first activity illegal. I'm just talking about what is biologically normal and what is biologically perverted.
The guy is a pervert. I'm sure he could kick the snot out of me. But that just means he's a pervert that could kick the snot out of me. The operative word is "he." He is a "he." And he always will be a "he." He's deluding himself. He's sick.
How is that? My best friend is starting the process of becoming a woman, b/c inside that is who he is. He is far from a pervert.JohnStOnge wrote:Pervert. Tough pervert. But still a pervert.
Good GRIEF man. How can you ask a question like "How is that?" Seriously. I'm sorry, but if your best friend was born with XY chromosomes and is now in the process of trying to become a woman, your best friend is a pervert. Doesn't mean you have to hate him or stop being his friend. But he's a pervert. He's in the process of perverting his body. He's seriously "off."How is that? My best friend is starting the process of becoming a woman, b/c inside that is who he is. He is far from a pervert.
Moral....just like sticking it in a 12 year old.kalm wrote:Is pervert a scientific term or a moral term? You sure do cast a lot of judgement for a non-religious type...
No, inside he has the XY chromsome. It doesn't matter if he chops his dick off, gets a fake pussy and grows tits, he will still have the XY chromosome, which means he will still be a man. JSO is right in that regard.Ibanez wrote:How is that? My best friend is starting the process of becoming a woman, b/c inside that is who he is. He is far from a pervert.JohnStOnge wrote:Pervert. Tough pervert. But still a pervert.
No, he/she gets to decide what he/she is, no matter how uncomfortable you and JSO feel.BDKJMU wrote:No, inside he has the XY chromsome. It doesn't matter if he chops his dick off, gets a fake pussy and grows tits, he will still have the XY chromosome, which means he will still be a man. JSO is right in that regard.Ibanez wrote:How is that? My best friend is starting the process of becoming a woman, b/c inside that is who he is. He is far from a pervert.
Wrong. Genetic facts are genetic facts, no matter how much you want to ignore them.kalm wrote:No, he/she gets to decide what he/she is, no matter how uncomfortable you and JSO feel.BDKJMU wrote:
No, inside he has the XY chromsome. It doesn't matter if he chops his dick off, gets a fake pussy and grows tits, he will still have the XY chromosome, which means he will still be a man. JSO is right in that regard.
The above gibberish is what you get when you FIRST believe something and then apply this moral worldview to complex issues. In fact, there are many genetic mechanisms a "female" can be produced with a Y chromosome and some of these genes reside on autosomes.BDKJMU wrote:No, inside he has the XY chromsome. It doesn't matter if he chops his dick off, gets a fake pussy and grows tits, he will still have the XY chromosome, which means he will still be a man. JSO is right in that regard.JohnStOnge wrote:Pervert. Tough pervert. But still a pervert.
Ha!biobengal wrote:The above gibberish is what you get when you FIRST believe something and then apply this moral worldview to complex issues. In fact, there are many genetic mechanisms a "female" can be produced with a Y chromosome and some of these genes reside on autosomes.BDKJMU wrote:
No, inside he has the XY chromsome. It doesn't matter if he chops his dick off, gets a fake pussy and grows tits, he will still have the XY chromosome, which means he will still be a man. JSO is right in that regard.
http://www.who.int/genomics/gender/en/index1.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
That's pretty much high school biology right there, but I'm sure St. Onge will find a way to discount it in 5,000 words or more.kalm wrote:Ha!biobengal wrote:
The above gibberish is what you get when you FIRST believe something and then apply this moral worldview to complex issues. In fact, there are many genetic mechanisms a "female" can be produced with a Y chromosome and some of these genes reside on autosomes.
http://www.who.int/genomics/gender/en/index1.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
5,000 words are not necessary. It's very unlikely that that the people we're talking about here (the former Navy seal and Ibanez's friend) were born with any of the anomalies discussed in that WHO thing. And if they were they'd be recognized ahead of time as having problems. They are categorized as "birth defects" (see http://www.childrenshospital.org/az/Sit ... 793P0.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; as an example). Unfortunately, there are people who are born with problems. There are, for instance, people who are born hermaphrodites.Grizalltheway wrote:That's pretty much high school biology right there, but I'm sure St. Onge will find a way to discount it in 5,000 words or more.kalm wrote:
Ha!
The point you're missing is that only he/she gets to determine what he/she is. You're perception of her and description of perversion is a reflection of what's inside you.JohnStOnge wrote:BTW, please don't look at the WHO as credible. Really. Please don't do that. If you do you're making a mistake. Not that there's not anything credible ever involved. But you never know.
