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Here we go again. :ohno:

"Obama administration pushes banks to make home loans to people with weaker credit

The Obama administration is engaged in a broad push to make more home loans available to people with weaker credit, an effort that officials say will help power the economic recovery but that skeptics say could open the door to the risky lending that caused the housing crash in the first place.

President Obama’s economic advisers and outside experts say the nation’s much-celebrated housing rebound is leaving too many people behind, including young people looking to buy their first homes and individuals with credit records weakened by the recession.

In response, administration officials say they are working to get banks to lend to a wider range of borrowers by taking advantage of taxpayer-backed programs — including those offered by the Federal Housing Administration — that insure home loans against default.

Housing officials are urging the Justice Department to provide assurances to banks, which have become increasingly cautious, that they will not face legal or financial recriminations if they make loans to riskier borrowers who meet government standards but later default........

..........“If that were to come to pass, that would open the floodgates to highly excessive risk and would send us right back on the same path we were just trying to recover from,” said Ed Pinto, a resident fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and former top executive at mortgage giant Fannie Mae..........."
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To quote that great American Philosopher, Yogi Berra, "It's deja vu all over again!" :rofl:
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Not everyone should own a home. Including many who have good enough credit to qualify.
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Its the American Dream. Home ownership!!!!!! :thumb:
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AshevilleApp wrote:Not everyone should own a home. Including many who have good enough credit to qualify.
This is true but tell that to builders, developers, realtors, lenders, etc. I'll bet BDK and Leadbolt still think the CRA and social engineering caused the last crash. :lol:
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Repeating the same failed policies over and over is the definition of stupidity.
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AZGrizFan wrote:Repeating the same failed policies over and over is the definition of stupidity.
I thought it was misquoting Einstein?
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kalm wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:Repeating the same failed policies over and over is the definition of stupidity.
I thought it was misquoting Einstein?
No, that's not it.
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kalm wrote:
AshevilleApp wrote:Not everyone should own a home. Including many who have good enough credit to qualify.
This is true but tell that to builders, developers, realtors, lenders, etc. I'll bet BDK and Leadbolt still think the CRA and social engineering caused the last crash. :lol:
Seems to me that Obama is telling just the opposite to the lenders, which will spur the developers, realtors and builders to over produce again. Reasonable credit standards, equally applied to all, regardless of age, race, sexual orientation, national origin, religion or halitosis are the way to avoid this from happening again. :twocents:
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With lawsuit, Barack Obama pushed banks to give subprime loans to Chicago’s African-Americans
The Daily Caller ^ | 9/3/2012 | Neil Munro

President Barack Obama was a pioneering contributor to the national subprime real estate bubble, and roughly half of the 186 African-American clients in his landmark 1995 mortgage discrimination lawsuit against Citibank have since gone bankrupt or received foreclosure notices.


As few as 19 of those 186 clients still own homes with clean credit ratings, following a decade in which Obama and other progressives pushed banks to provide mortgages to poor African Americans.
The startling failure rate among Obama’s private sector clients was discovered during The Daily Caller’s review of previously unpublished court information from the lawsuit that a young Obama helmed as the lead plaintiff’s attorney.


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Bronco wrote:-
Not surprised

With lawsuit, Barack Obama pushed banks to give subprime loans to Chicago’s African-Americans
The Daily Caller ^ | 9/3/2012 | Neil Munro

President Barack Obama was a pioneering contributor to the national subprime real estate bubble, and roughly half of the 186 African-American clients in his landmark 1995 mortgage discrimination lawsuit against Citibank have since gone bankrupt or received foreclosure notices.


As few as 19 of those 186 clients still own homes with clean credit ratings, following a decade in which Obama and other progressives pushed banks to provide mortgages to poor African Americans.
The startling failure rate among Obama’s private sector clients was discovered during The Daily Caller’s review of previously unpublished court information from the lawsuit that a young Obama helmed as the lead plaintiff’s attorney.


(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...
It's ok, Bush pushed for pretty much the same thing. I'm sure somebody made money off the bad loans. :thumb:
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kalm wrote:
AshevilleApp wrote:Not everyone should own a home. Including many who have good enough credit to qualify.
This is true but tell that to builders, developers, realtors, lenders, etc. I'll bet BDK and Leadbolt still think the CRA and social engineering caused the last crash. :lol:
Come on, Kalm, that's weak. No one is saying that lending to people with bad credit was the sole cause of the last crash. Obviously there were several causes. But even you can agree that when presented with, say, 10 reasons why the last crash happened, we shouldn't wait until we solve all 10 at the same time before we solve any of them individually.
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GannonFan wrote:
kalm wrote:
This is true but tell that to builders, developers, realtors, lenders, etc. I'll bet BDK and Leadbolt still think the CRA and social engineering caused the last crash. :lol:
Come on, Kalm, that's weak. No one is saying that lending to people with bad credit was the sole cause of the last crash. Obviously there were several causes. But even you can agree that when presented with, say, 10 reasons why the last crash happened, we shouldn't wait until we solve all 10 at the same time before we solve any of them individually.
+100!

Let's stop focusing on assigning blame for the past failure (I think we can all agree there is more than enough to go around on all sides of the political spectrum), learn from past mistakes (regardless of who made them), and take appropriate action to avoid this happening again by not starting down the same road. With reasonable credit standards, adhered to evenly, there is no discrimination and no danger of a bubble.
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Some people have poor credit and it has little to do with the decisions they've made. Some of it has to do with bad economic times.
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kalm wrote:
AshevilleApp wrote:Not everyone should own a home. Including many who have good enough credit to qualify.
This is true but tell that to builders, developers, realtors, lenders, etc. I'll bet BDK and Leadbolt still think the CRA and social engineering caused the last crash. :lol:
The CRA certainly had a very significant role in the stock market bubble and subsequent crash. If you are talking about the financial crisis, there were other causes as well.
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Been posted many times before but always good to show the folks that just read this site what was going on
Others, I guess... keep forgetting

Timeline shows Bush, McCain warning Dems of financial and housing crisis in 2001


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Ibanez wrote:Some people have poor credit and it has little to do with the decisions they've made. Some of it has to do with bad economic times.
That's still no reason for giving them a loan they are at risk of defaulting on.


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Bronco wrote:-
Been posted many times before but always good to show the folks that just read this site what was going on
Others, I guess... keep forgetting

Timeline shows Bush, McCain warning Dems of financial and housing crisis in 2001


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM&NR=1[/youtube]
Dude.

Voters don't care about that crap.

Watch the narrative on the latest WH call for high risk loans to migrate directly back to "conservatives want the poor to stay out in the cold".

Our electorate has the attention span of a starving 5 year old on methamphetamine.


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Bronco wrote:-
Been posted many times before but always good to show the folks that just read this site what was going on
Others, I guess... keep forgetting

Timeline shows Bush, McCain warning Dems of financial and housing crisis in 2001


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM&NR=1[/youtube]
Aaaaaand right back at ya:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkAtUq0OJ68[/youtube]

:rofl:

WASHINGTON — "We can put light where there's darkness, and hope where there's despondency in this country. And part of it is working together as a nation to encourage folks to own their own home."

- President George W. Bush, Oct. 15, 2002

From his earliest days in office, Bush paired his belief that Americans do best when they own their own homes with his conviction that markets do best when left alone. Bush pushed hard to expand home ownership, especially among minority groups, an initiative that dovetailed with both his ambition to expand Republican appeal and the business interests of some of his biggest donors. But his housing policies and hands-off approach to regulation encouraged lax lending standards.

Bush did foresee the danger posed by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored mortgage finance giants. The president spent years pushing a recalcitrant Congress to toughen regulation of the companies, but was unwilling to compromise when his former Treasury secretary wanted to cut a deal. And the regulator Bush chose to oversee them - an old school buddy - pronounced the companies sound even as they headed toward insolvency.

"There is no question we did not recognize the severity of the problems," said Al Hubbard, Bush's former chief economic adviser, who left the White House in December 2007. "Had we, we would have attacked them."

Looking back, Keith Hennessey, Bush's current chief economic adviser, said he and his colleagues had done the best they could "with the information we had at the time." But Hennessey did say he regretted that the administration had not paid more heed to the dangers of easy lending practices.

And both Paulson and his predecessor, John Snow, say the housing push went too far.

"The Bush administration took a lot of pride that home ownership had reached historic highs," Snow said during an interview. "But what we forgot in the process was that it has to be done in the context of people being able to afford their house. We now realize there was a high cost."

For much of the Bush presidency, the White House was preoccupied by terrorism and war; on the economic front, its pressing concerns were cutting taxes and privatizing Social Security, a government retirement and disability benefits program. The housing market was a bright spot: Ever-rising home values kept the economy humming, as owners drew down on their equity to buy consumer goods and pack their children off to college.

Lawrence Lindsay, Bush's first chief economic adviser, said there was little impetus to raise alarms about the proliferation of easy credit that was helping Bush meet housing goals.

"No one wanted to stop that bubble," Lindsay said. "It would have conflicted with the president's own policies."
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/busin ... d=all&_r=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So curiously, we have a Republican president and a Democratic president both pushing for policies that increase minority home ownership. My whole point in bringing up the CRA and the industries that benefit from home construction is why? Why does it come from both sides? BDK, Bronco, and nearly the entire right wing of this country harken back to F&F and the CRA, politicizing the issue. And milquetoast conks like Gannon and Leadbolt defend the notion by saying it's all in the past and lets focus on now! :lol:

The home construction, real estate, and mortgage industries aren't in the game to do what's best for America in this regard. They want to build, sell, and finance homes. The financial services industry wants deregulation of markets so they can bet on the success of these loans. They all pay for these policies to be implemented, and they pay both sides of the fence.

This is crony capitalism at its finest and it starts with campaign finance. But lets keep wringing our hands about why we're repeating the same mistakes over and over again. Maybe it will change. :ohno:

C'mon fellas, make some connections...think bigger picture. :thumb:
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CID1990 wrote:
Ibanez wrote:Some people have poor credit and it has little to do with the decisions they've made. Some of it has to do with bad economic times.
That's still no reason for giving them a loan they are at risk of defaulting on.


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How many people with excellent ratings defaulted or went bankrupt. We let computers and not the humans make the decision. That is wrong, IMO.
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kalm wrote:
Bronco wrote:-
Been posted many times before but always good to show the folks that just read this site what was going on
Others, I guess... keep forgetting

Timeline shows Bush, McCain warning Dems of financial and housing crisis in 2001


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM&NR=1[/youtube]
Aaaaaand right back at ya:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkAtUq0OJ68[/youtube]

:rofl:

WASHINGTON — "We can put light where there's darkness, and hope where there's despondency in this country. And part of it is working together as a nation to encourage folks to own their own home."

- President George W. Bush, Oct. 15, 2002

From his earliest days in office, Bush paired his belief that Americans do best when they own their own homes with his conviction that markets do best when left alone. Bush pushed hard to expand home ownership, especially among minority groups, an initiative that dovetailed with both his ambition to expand Republican appeal and the business interests of some of his biggest donors. But his housing policies and hands-off approach to regulation encouraged lax lending standards.

Bush did foresee the danger posed by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored mortgage finance giants. The president spent years pushing a recalcitrant Congress to toughen regulation of the companies, but was unwilling to compromise when his former Treasury secretary wanted to cut a deal. And the regulator Bush chose to oversee them - an old school buddy - pronounced the companies sound even as they headed toward insolvency.

"There is no question we did not recognize the severity of the problems," said Al Hubbard, Bush's former chief economic adviser, who left the White House in December 2007. "Had we, we would have attacked them."

Looking back, Keith Hennessey, Bush's current chief economic adviser, said he and his colleagues had done the best they could "with the information we had at the time." But Hennessey did say he regretted that the administration had not paid more heed to the dangers of easy lending practices.

And both Paulson and his predecessor, John Snow, say the housing push went too far.

"The Bush administration took a lot of pride that home ownership had reached historic highs," Snow said during an interview. "But what we forgot in the process was that it has to be done in the context of people being able to afford their house. We now realize there was a high cost."

For much of the Bush presidency, the White House was preoccupied by terrorism and war; on the economic front, its pressing concerns were cutting taxes and privatizing Social Security, a government retirement and disability benefits program. The housing market was a bright spot: Ever-rising home values kept the economy humming, as owners drew down on their equity to buy consumer goods and pack their children off to college.

Lawrence Lindsay, Bush's first chief economic adviser, said there was little impetus to raise alarms about the proliferation of easy credit that was helping Bush meet housing goals.

"No one wanted to stop that bubble," Lindsay said. "It would have conflicted with the president's own policies."
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/busin ... d=all&_r=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So curiously, we have a Republican president and a Democratic president both pushing for policies that increase minority home ownership. My whole point in bringing up the CRA and the industries that benefit from home construction is why? Why does it come from both sides? BDK, Bronco, and nearly the entire right wing of this country harken back to F&F and the CRA, politicizing the issue. And milquetoast conks like Gannon and Leadbolt defend the notion by saying it's all in the past and lets focus on now! :lol:

The home construction, real estate, and mortgage industries aren't in the game to do what's best for America in this regard. They want to build, sell, and finance homes. The financial services industry wants deregulation of markets so they can bet on the success of these loans. They all pay for these policies to be implemented, and they pay both sides of the fence.

This is crony capitalism at its finest and it starts with campaign finance. But lets keep wringing our hands about why we're repeating the same mistakes over and over again. Maybe it will change. :ohno:

C'mon fellas, make some connections...think bigger picture. :thumb:

You lost me when you said I was a conk. Do tell. Namecalling when you're challenged on a point you make is very unbecoming. I mean, it's standard fare for D1B, but not you.
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Ibanez wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
That's still no reason for giving them a loan they are at risk of defaulting on.


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How many people with excellent ratings defaulted or went bankrupt. We let computers and not the humans make the decision. That is wrong, IMO.
Do you have ANY idea what you're talking about?
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AZGrizFan wrote:
Ibanez wrote: How many people with excellent ratings defaulted or went bankrupt. We let computers and not the humans make the decision. That is wrong, IMO.
Do you have ANY idea what you're talking about?
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kalm wrote:
Bronco wrote:-
Been posted many times before but always good to show the folks that just read this site what was going on
Others, I guess... keep forgetting

Timeline shows Bush, McCain warning Dems of financial and housing crisis in 2001


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM&NR=1[/youtube]
Aaaaaand right back at ya:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkAtUq0OJ68[/youtube]

:rofl:

WASHINGTON — "We can put light where there's darkness, and hope where there's despondency in this country. And part of it is working together as a nation to encourage folks to own their own home."

- President George W. Bush, Oct. 15, 2002

From his earliest days in office, Bush paired his belief that Americans do best when they own their own homes with his conviction that markets do best when left alone. Bush pushed hard to expand home ownership, especially among minority groups, an initiative that dovetailed with both his ambition to expand Republican appeal and the business interests of some of his biggest donors. But his housing policies and hands-off approach to regulation encouraged lax lending standards.

Bush did foresee the danger posed by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored mortgage finance giants. The president spent years pushing a recalcitrant Congress to toughen regulation of the companies, but was unwilling to compromise when his former Treasury secretary wanted to cut a deal. And the regulator Bush chose to oversee them - an old school buddy - pronounced the companies sound even as they headed toward insolvency.

"There is no question we did not recognize the severity of the problems," said Al Hubbard, Bush's former chief economic adviser, who left the White House in December 2007. "Had we, we would have attacked them."

Looking back, Keith Hennessey, Bush's current chief economic adviser, said he and his colleagues had done the best they could "with the information we had at the time." But Hennessey did say he regretted that the administration had not paid more heed to the dangers of easy lending practices.

And both Paulson and his predecessor, John Snow, say the housing push went too far.

"The Bush administration took a lot of pride that home ownership had reached historic highs," Snow said during an interview. "But what we forgot in the process was that it has to be done in the context of people being able to afford their house. We now realize there was a high cost."

For much of the Bush presidency, the White House was preoccupied by terrorism and war; on the economic front, its pressing concerns were cutting taxes and privatizing Social Security, a government retirement and disability benefits program. The housing market was a bright spot: Ever-rising home values kept the economy humming, as owners drew down on their equity to buy consumer goods and pack their children off to college.

Lawrence Lindsay, Bush's first chief economic adviser, said there was little impetus to raise alarms about the proliferation of easy credit that was helping Bush meet housing goals.

"No one wanted to stop that bubble," Lindsay said. "It would have conflicted with the president's own policies."
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/busin ... d=all&_r=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So curiously, we have a Republican president and a Democratic president both pushing for policies that increase minority home ownership. My whole point in bringing up the CRA and the industries that benefit from home construction is why? Why does it come from both sides? BDK, Bronco, and nearly the entire right wing of this country harken back to F&F and the CRA, politicizing the issue. And milquetoast conks like Gannon and Leadbolt defend the notion by saying it's all in the past and lets focus on now! :lol:

The home construction, real estate, and mortgage industries aren't in the game to do what's best for America in this regard. They want to build, sell, and finance homes. The financial services industry wants deregulation of markets so they can bet on the success of these loans. They all pay for these policies to be implemented, and they pay both sides of the fence.

This is crony capitalism at its finest and it starts with campaign finance. But lets keep wringing our hands about why we're repeating the same mistakes over and over again. Maybe it will change. :ohno:

C'mon fellas, make some connections...think bigger picture. :thumb:
You're different from the conservatives who say it was the mandated lending... how?



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Re: Obama to banks: make home loans to people with weak cred

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kalm wrote: So curiously, we have a Republican president and a Democratic president both pushing for policies that increase minority home ownership.
Not true. Kanye told me Bush hated black people. :?
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