Obama moving forward with amnesty by fiat

[BDKJMU]

After Hispanics warn Obama on 2012 vote.

"Obama to deport illegals by ‘priority’
Case-by-case plan will curb numbers

Bowing to pressure from immigrant rights activists, the Obama administration said Thursday that it will halt deportation proceedings on a case-by-case basis against illegal immigrants who meet certain criteria, such as attending school, having family in the military or having primary responsible for other family members’ care.

The move marks a major step for President Obama, who for months has said he does not have broad categorical authority to halt deportations and said he must follow the laws as Congress has written them.

But in letters to Congress on Thursday, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said she does have discretion to focus on “priorities” and that her department and the Justice Department will review all ongoing cases to see who meets the new criteria......

.......The new rules apply to those who have been apprehended and are in deportation proceedings, but have not been officially ordered out of the country by a judge.......

.....The top House Republican on the Judiciary Committee said the move is part of a White House plan “to grant backdoor amnesty to illegal immigrants.”

“The Obama administration should enforce immigration laws, not look for ways to ignore them,” said Rep. Lamar Smith, Texas Republican. “The Obama administration should not pick and choose which laws to enforce. Administration officials should remember the oath of office they took to uphold the Constitution and the laws of the land.".........." (Damn straight)

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[dbackjon]

Awesome move - get the criminals out first.

[BDKJMU]

Awesome move - get the criminals out first.

And let the others stay permanently Like I said, amnesty by fiat. That's alright, they'll be an end put to this in about a yr and a half...

[Col Hogan]

Awesome move - get the criminals out first.

I agree...anyone who has broken federal law should go first.....





Wait....aren't illegal aliens here illegally...thus violating federal law...thus a criminal???

[Skjellyfetti]

Yep. Reagan did the A-word

The GOP candidates keep sparring over who's tougher on immigration. In this climate, dem is fightin' words to say your opponent supports "sanctuary" or "amnesty" for illegal immigrants.
But as Giuliani reminded his foes during the Jan. 5, 2008, Republican debate, none other than Ronald Reagan, the patron saint of modern-day conservatism, signed the very law that Republicans call amnesty.

Say it ain't so!

Sorry. It's so. In 1986, Reagan signed an immigration reform bill, the first in 20 years, that legalized the status for 1.7-million people.

Some defenders of the law dispute the term "amnesty."

But here's how Edwin Meese, Reagan's former attorney general, characterizes what his boss did: "President Reagan called this what it was: amnesty. Indeed, look up the term 'amnesty' in Black's Law Dictionary, and you'll find it says, 'the 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act provided amnesty for undocumented aliens already in the country.' "

Reagan signed the bill after Republicans and Democrats cobbled together an amnesty program in response to concerns from farmers worried about harvesting profits. The official record of congressional debates shows that lawmakers intended the program to provide a steady supply of labor for growers of perishable crops, such as cherries, grapes, peaches, etc. At the time the bill was written, however, "perishable" was defined so loosely that more durable crops such as potted plants, tobacco and seedlings were lumped in as well.

So even at the start, this program could be interpreted in ways that would benefit employers looking to save on wages.

To qualify for temporary status, migrants had to show they entered the United States before Jan. 1, 1982, and that they had continuously resided since then. They could get permanent residency within 18 months after that if they met certain requirements, such as learning English. The program took effect in 1987, also covering up to 350,000 people who had worked in U.S. agriculture at least 90 days in each of the preceding three years.

Many have called the program a success because it awarded green cards to 2.7-million migrants, giving them the hope of entry to the American middle class.

In exchange for the amnesty, the new law was supposed to have beefed up border patrols and stiffened fines for both the migrant workers and employers in cases of violation. Alas, the law failed to stop illegal immigration, and many critics of the law say the government never thoroughly regulated employers who skirted the law's requirements.

This much is certain: If the law aimed to curb illegal immigration, it failed: When the law was passed, there were about 5-million illegal immigrants; now, there's an estimated 12-million.

When Reagan signed the law, many predicted it would encourage the hiring of more migrants, especially outside of agriculture, and that this would spur the backlash against immigration that we're seeing today.

Giuliani, it would seem, brought up Reagan's legacy to show how difficult the immigration issue is. In doing so, he didn't trip any alarms on the Truth-O-Meter, which scores him a True.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... he-a-word/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=2705" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Baldy]

Awesome move - get the criminals out first.

Duhhhh, if they are here illegally, they are criminals.

Git yer head out of yer ass, dback

[Baldy]

Yep. Reagan did the A-word

The GOP candidates keep sparring over who's tougher on immigration. In this climate, dem is fightin' words to say your opponent supports "sanctuary" or "amnesty" for illegal immigrants.
But as Giuliani reminded his foes during the Jan. 5, 2008, Republican debate, none other than Ronald Reagan, the patron saint of modern-day conservatism, signed the very law that Republicans call amnesty.

Say it ain't so!

Sorry. It's so. In 1986, Reagan signed an immigration reform bill, the first in 20 years, that legalized the status for 1.7-million people.

Some defenders of the law dispute the term "amnesty."

But here's how Edwin Meese, Reagan's former attorney general, characterizes what his boss did: "President Reagan called this what it was: amnesty. Indeed, look up the term 'amnesty' in Black's Law Dictionary, and you'll find it says, 'the 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act provided amnesty for undocumented aliens already in the country.' "

Reagan signed the bill after Republicans and Democrats cobbled together an amnesty program in response to concerns from farmers worried about harvesting profits. The official record of congressional debates shows that lawmakers intended the program to provide a steady supply of labor for growers of perishable crops, such as cherries, grapes, peaches, etc. At the time the bill was written, however, "perishable" was defined so loosely that more durable crops such as potted plants, tobacco and seedlings were lumped in as well.

So even at the start, this program could be interpreted in ways that would benefit employers looking to save on wages.

To qualify for temporary status, migrants had to show they entered the United States before Jan. 1, 1982, and that they had continuously resided since then. They could get permanent residency within 18 months after that if they met certain requirements, such as learning English. The program took effect in 1987, also covering up to 350,000 people who had worked in U.S. agriculture at least 90 days in each of the preceding three years.

Many have called the program a success because it awarded green cards to 2.7-million migrants, giving them the hope of entry to the American middle class.

In exchange for the amnesty, the new law was supposed to have beefed up border patrols and stiffened fines for both the migrant workers and employers in cases of violation. Alas, the law failed to stop illegal immigration, and many critics of the law say the government never thoroughly regulated employers who skirted the law's requirements.

This much is certain: If the law aimed to curb illegal immigration, it failed: When the law was passed, there were about 5-million illegal immigrants; now, there's an estimated 12-million.

When Reagan signed the law, many predicted it would encourage the hiring of more migrants, especially outside of agriculture, and that this would spur the backlash against immigration that we're seeing today.

Giuliani, it would seem, brought up Reagan's legacy to show how difficult the immigration issue is. In doing so, he didn't trip any alarms on the Truth-O-Meter, which scores him a True.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... he-a-word/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[youtube][/youtube]

http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=2705" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Your ignorance knows no bounds, anal lube. The deal was amnesty if Congress closed the borders, but of course the Donk Congress didn't live up to their end of the deal. If you knew anything about Reagan and history, you would have known that already.

[Skjellyfetti]

Your ignorance knows no bounds, anal lube. The deal was amnesty if Congress closed the borders, but of course the Donk Congress didn't live up to their end of the deal. If you knew anything about Reagan and history, you would have known that already.

Donk Congress is misleading.

The Senate was Republican and the House was Democratic.

[SuperHornet]

Your ignorance knows no bounds, anal lube. The deal was amnesty if Congress closed the borders, but of course the Donk Congress didn't live up to their end of the deal. If you knew anything about Reagan and history, you would have known that already.

Donk Congress is misleading.

The Senate was Republican and the House was Democratic.

In the minds of most people, Congress is congruent to the House. People speak of a "Congressman" when they mean a Representative. As if Senators don't exist.

And, yes, that's people of ALL political stripes.

[Skjellyfetti]

In the minds of most people, Congress is congruent to the House. People speak of a "Congressman" when they mean a Representative. As if Senators don't exist.

And, yes, that's people of ALL political stripes.

So, you consider the current Congress to be Republican?

[SuperHornet]

I didn't say that, KY. I was referring to position title, not party. As stated a few posts up, we have one house dominated by elephants and another dominated by donkeys. As far as party goes, it's a coin toss!

[Skjellyfetti]

I didn't say that, KY. I was referring to position title, not party. As stated a few posts up, we have one house dominated by elephants and another dominated by donkeys. As far as party goes, it's a coin toss!

Then what the fuck was the point of your other post?

That was what I was saying -- the Congress in 1986 was split. So it doesn't make sense to call it a "Donk Congress."

[SuperHornet]

I recognize that we have a bicameral legislature at the federal level. When you brought that fact up in response to the "Donk Congress" assertion, I merely mentioned that for many people, the House IS the Congress, negligently either considering the Senate to be a separate body all together or just plain forgetting about it. You're exactly right that we shouldn't speak of a "Donk Congress." Pelosi and Reid may throw their weight around disproportionately, but if it just comes down to a straight party-line vote, it's a split Congress as you said. I make no assertions otherwise.

[BDKJMU]

Yep. Reagan did the A-word

The GOP candidates keep sparring over who's tougher on immigration. In this climate, dem is fightin' words to say your opponent supports "sanctuary" or "amnesty" for illegal immigrants.
But as Giuliani reminded his foes during the Jan. 5, 2008, Republican debate, none other than Ronald Reagan, the patron saint of modern-day conservatism, signed the very law that Republicans call amnesty.

Say it ain't so!

Sorry. It's so. In 1986, Reagan signed an immigration reform bill, the first in 20 years, that legalized the status for 1.7-million people.

Some defenders of the law dispute the term "amnesty."

But here's how Edwin Meese, Reagan's former attorney general, characterizes what his boss did: "President Reagan called this what it was: amnesty. Indeed, look up the term 'amnesty' in Black's Law Dictionary, and you'll find it says, 'the 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act provided amnesty for undocumented aliens already in the country.' "

Reagan signed the bill after Republicans and Democrats cobbled together an amnesty program in response to concerns from farmers worried about harvesting profits. The official record of congressional debates shows that lawmakers intended the program to provide a steady supply of labor for growers of perishable crops, such as cherries, grapes, peaches, etc. At the time the bill was written, however, "perishable" was defined so loosely that more durable crops such as potted plants, tobacco and seedlings were lumped in as well.

So even at the start, this program could be interpreted in ways that would benefit employers looking to save on wages.

To qualify for temporary status, migrants had to show they entered the United States before Jan. 1, 1982, and that they had continuously resided since then. They could get permanent residency within 18 months after that if they met certain requirements, such as learning English. The program took effect in 1987, also covering up to 350,000 people who had worked in U.S. agriculture at least 90 days in each of the preceding three years.

Many have called the program a success because it awarded green cards to 2.7-million migrants, giving them the hope of entry to the American middle class.

In exchange for the amnesty, the new law was supposed to have beefed up border patrols and stiffened fines for both the migrant workers and employers in cases of violation. Alas, the law failed to stop illegal immigration, and many critics of the law say the government never thoroughly regulated employers who skirted the law's requirements.

This much is certain: If the law aimed to curb illegal immigration, it failed: When the law was passed, there were about 5-million illegal immigrants; now, there's an estimated 12-million.

When Reagan signed the law, many predicted it would encourage the hiring of more migrants, especially outside of agriculture, and that this would spur the backlash against immigration that we're seeing today.

Giuliani, it would seem, brought up Reagan's legacy to show how difficult the immigration issue is. In doing so, he didn't trip any alarms on the Truth-O-Meter, which scores him a True.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... he-a-word/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[youtube][/youtube]

http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=2705" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Reagan called it one of his biggest mistakes. It was an abysmal failure, leading to an explosion of 12-20 million more illegals a within a couple of decades later. It promised employer sanctions, which we got little of. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice,.....

We saw what happened when Congress tried to pass "comprehensive immigration reform" ie amnesty in 06'- they were bombarded with angry letters, e-mails & calls, crashing their phone lines, with the message of HELL NO!