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Bush sells out to the "Green Technology" special interests. On May 14th, the Interior Department listed "Polar Bears" as a "threatened species". This is the icing on the cake of Bush's tragically destructive cascade of national and economic policies.

What does this mean? Why was this so important that the Democrats and Global Wealth Redistribution advocates had been fiercely fighting for it since 2005?

Read...

http://www.aei.org/publications/pubID.2 ... detail.asp

Is the Polar Bear Endangered, or Just Conveniently Charismatic?
Listing the polar bear as a threatened species would have significant public policy consequences. It would set a new precedent, representing the first linkage of species endangerment with global warming. Such a listing would basically wall off the entire Arctic region to exploration, resource extraction, and development--at least by U.S. companies--and a threatened species listing would give environmental groups the ability to sue future U.S. governments to force them to reverse climate change by whatever means necessary.

There is little doubt that such lawsuits would be filed quickly. According to the NRDC:

Listing the polar bear guarantees federal agencies will be obligated to ensure that any action they authorize, fund, or carry out will not jeopardize the polar bears' continued existence or adversely modify their critical habitat, and the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service will be required to prepare a recovery plan for the polar bear, specifying measures necessary for its protection.[13]
May 14th, 2008.

Remember this day, when your kids ask you, while standing in the soup kitchen line, "Dad. What caused this? Why didn't you do anything to stop them? "

An extremely dark day for America. If you want to learn about the cause, follow the money, while you still can.
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Great day for the United States - Bush is FINALLY following science and common sense, and not caving into special interests that want to rape our earth. Maybe we can save our planet from destruction after all, and actually have a place where our grandchildren can live.
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dbackjon wrote:Great day for the United States - Bush is FINALLY following science and common sense, and not caving into special interests that want to rape our earth. Maybe we can save our planet from destruction after all, and actually have a place where our grandchildren can live.
A contradictory opinion...

...someone to debate.

Thank you jon. I think I'm gonna cry.

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Oh, yeah...I almost forgot.

Bullsh!t!

Bush has been one of the worst sell out Republicans to ever sit in the White House. A while back, I told Coastal 89 I'd post information pertaining to the record investments being made in developing and marketing "Green Technology". The private sector financial incentive of a few large industries to continue the deception and lies regarding the "Global Warming" scam is well into the hundreds of billions, and if the Dubai Investment Holdings group's investments are included, the amounts jump into the trillions. I've been gathering documentation, much of which is readily available publicly, however, the volume is beyond what could be covered in a few (dozen) posts.

Once I began retrieving the information, I realized the scope was beyond the capacity of one person to organize for publication. I have a 'plan' to discuss a publication project with someone I know of impeccable integrity and resources, and who also has access to a publishing house's fact checking staff which is paramount when allegations of private sector financial impropriety are being presented.

Unfortunately, this tsunami of lies is building speed and little is being done to protect the underprivileged. By the time the wave of regulatory change hits, it will be way too late to mitigate the catastrophic damage to every nook and cranny of the world's economy.

I hope to be around for another 20 or so years, jon, and so long as you wear a cap and protect your noggin from the sun, so will you. We'll see how this plays out, but if I'm right, don't forget what I've said when "junior" looks at you and says...

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dbackjon wrote:Great day for the United States - Bush is FINALLY following science and common sense, and not caving into special interests that want to rape our earth. Maybe we can save our planet from destruction after all, and actually have a place where our grandchildren can live.
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T-man - will respond further when I have more time
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dbackjon wrote:Great day for the United States - Bush is FINALLY following science and common sense, and not caving into special interests that want to rape our earth. Maybe we can save our planet from destruction after all, and actually have a place where our grandchildren can live.
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Personal experience speaking, no doubt :twisted:
not on your best day jon.
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citdog wrote:
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Personal experience speaking, no doubt :twisted:
not on your best day jon.
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It only took three days.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080520/ap_ ... bJT2Os0NUE

ANCHORAGE, Alaska - Conservation groups returned to court to challenge Bush administration efforts to help save the polar bear, saying federal officials' refusal to include steps against global warming violates the Endangered Species Act.
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coastal89 wrote:It only took three days.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080520/ap_ ... bJT2Os0NUE

ANCHORAGE, Alaska - Conservation groups returned to court to challenge Bush administration efforts to help save the polar bear, saying federal officials' refusal to include steps against global warming violates the Endangered Species Act.
They actually had started drafting the lawsuits in Spring of 2007. This was just one of the first. There will probably be about a dozen cases 'floated' to lay the groundwork for injunctions/estoppels, but once the injunctions are in place, they'll drag these cases out years if not decades, in effect burying the United States economically much in the same way the Sierra Club and other environmental groups have done in California.

Congress will not 'fix' this problem so long as the Dem's control the hill...so, until there's a MASSIVE change of intellect in D.C., our country's economy is done. We will become a third world nation.

THANK YOU, MR. GORE. THANK YOU, THOUGHTLESS ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS. THANK YOU, IGNORANT, THOUGHTLESS, LIBERALS!!!!
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Alaska counter sues. :party: Hopefully the envirowackos will have to defend their pseudo-science in court now.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... 251D30.DTL

The state of Alaska will sue to challenge the recent listing of polar bears as a threatened species, Gov. Sarah Palin announced Wednesday.

She and other Alaska elected officials fear a listing will cripple oil and gas development in prime polar bear habitat off the state's northern and northwestern coasts.

Palin argued that there is not enough evidence to support a listing. Polar bears are well-managed and their population has dramatically increased over 30 years as a result of conservation, she said.
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Holy smokes...

The new definition of "Extremism"...that will be more destructive to America than the combined cumulative effect that every war, plague, act of hate, or natural disaster has wreaked upon our beloved country....
Wet-behind the ear lawyers who use the law to bully Americans into 'their way of thinking' [or more apt, a lack thereof]. And, BTW, the person quoted in the newspaper article chastising Alaska Governor Palin, "Kassie Siegel", is listed as a staff attorney for one of the plaintiff. Sounds like there's some personal vendetta going on...

If anyone ever wondered how much damage a bunch of punk-ass, red-diaper-doper-baby, enviro-psycho-whacko lawyers could do with some 'free' dough in the amount of a hundred million dollars to fund an "environmental" war on the U.S. Government, read on...

...just a little taste of what to expect from the groups suing to force "Gore's Global Warming Wealth Redistribution Racket" on America under the guise of "protecting the Polar Bears"...

Center for Biological Diversity

http://mountainenterprise.com/atf.php?s ... 2008-05-09

Secret Negotiation between Tejon Developers and 'Big Green' Groups Sprouts Deal
...Some groups and individuals have stepped away from the negotiations. They express concern that, without consulting their members, staff of the nation's largest environmental groups secretly agreed not to participate in the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) process.

The Center for Biological Diversity refused to sign a second round of confidentiality agreements after concluding that their primary concerns regarding conflict between California condor habitat and plans for Tejon Mountain Village "were not being dealt with in a serious way," sources said...
...York said in an interview Tuesday, May 5, "We had a component by a Wall Street analyst showing the advantage to Tejon shareholders of reaching a master plan for development with a global environmental plan. It showed they could reach profitability far more quickly if they were not forced to waste time in court."

The Mountain Enterprise discussed that theory with Wall Street investors who own Tejon Ranch Company stock.

Though they asked not to be named, they agreed that there was likely to be benefit in being able to come to an accord with environmental groups rather than spending a decade and perhaps millions of dollars in litigation....
....okay...maybe it's just me, but that sure sounds like extortion...albeit, a well thought out scheme...go for the private investor's big pockets...with professional actuarial management...then deliver the ultimatum...give the environmentalists what they want...and save yourself $XX million dollars, or else...

and...

Natural Resources Council

http://www.nysorva.org/news/News_23September2004.shtml

Activists Oppose Energy Exploration in the National Petroleum Reserve
* Taxpayers Foot the Bill for Frivolous Lawsuits

According to the Sacramento Bee: "Subsidized by federal tax dollars, environmental groups are filing a blizzard of lawsuits that no longer yield significant gain for the environment and sometimes infuriate federal judges and the Justice Department. During the 1990s, the U.S. Treasury paid $31.6 million in legal fees for environmental cases filed against the government."

The Capital Research Center also found that environmental fundraising groups have robbed the American taxpayers. For instance, a review of the Natural Resources Defense Council's (NRDC) financial and court records reveal that "a large percentage of its cases against the government agencies eventually are thrown out of court." These lawsuits drain the resources of the federal agencies and rob the taxpayer at the same time. Taxpayers bear the court costs when the government is sued and if the organization wins, the groups are rewarded financial judgments and court costs-all paid for by the taxpayer. And to add insult to injury, many of these organizations operate on taxpayer-funded grants to begin with.
and...

Greenpeace

http://www.greenpeace.org/May_2008/New_Member_Induction_Ceremony.jpg


O.K., kids...but the show's just beginning...

This lawsuit was initiated in 2005 when the first schemer made the connection between Arctic Ice Melting and Polar Bears, adding a dash of "Endangered Species Act", then quickly blend in the use of the EPA regulatory process to FORCE changes beyond the reach of Congress or the Executive branch's constitutional authority. The target date was SUPPOSED TO BE EARLY 2007, but the Interior Department postponed hearings...then...a funny happened on the way to the lawsuit...

...during the summer of 2007, peer-reviewed research started pouring in from all over the world...that DISPROVED the "man-made Global Warming" story spun up by the U.N. Wealth Redistribution Committee, and The Liar Gore. Turned out that most of the so called 'evidence' cited by the now-shrinking IPCC's science committee of 2,500...wait, make that 2,200...no, wait, make that 1,800 ...d-r-e-d-d...1,200...980...give or take...but we only need 250 to sign off on our 4th assessment to keep this Liar's Train a-rollin.

...then...

Ooops!!!!

http://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/lookin ... 71001.html

Shhh!!!!!!

SHHHHHH!!!!!

Oh, hell...it's gonna get out sooner or later...
PASADENA, Calif. - A new NASA-led study found a 23-percent loss in the extent of the Arctic's thick, year-round sea ice cover during the past two winters. This drastic reduction of perennial winter sea ice is the primary cause of this summer's fastest-ever sea ice retreat on record and subsequent smallest-ever extent of total Arctic coverage.

A team led by Son Nghiem of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif., studied trends in Arctic perennial ice cover by combining data from NASA's Quick Scatterometer (QuikScat) satellite with a computing model based on observations of sea ice drift from the International Arctic Buoy Programme. QuikScat can identify and map different classes of sea ice, including older, thicker perennial ice and younger, thinner seasonal ice...

...Nghiem said the rapid decline in winter perennial ice the past two years was caused by unusual winds. "Unusual atmospheric conditions set up wind patterns that compressed the sea ice, loaded it into the Transpolar Drift Stream and then sped its flow out of the Arctic," he said. When that sea ice reached lower latitudes, it rapidly melted in the warmer waters.

"The winds causing this trend in ice reduction were set up by an unusual pattern of atmospheric pressure that began at the beginning of this century," Nghiem said.


The Arctic Ocean's shift from perennial to seasonal ice is preconditioning the sea ice cover there for more efficient melting and further ice reductions each summer. The shift to seasonal ice decreases the reflectivity of Earth's surface and allows more solar energy to be absorbed in the ice-ocean system.
...Hmmmm...

Yet, the enviro-whacko-extortionist-lawyers already had too much time invested in this boondoggle blackmail to just let it drop...sooo...if they could just convince their bankers they can still extort enough to make it worth their investment...they can keep the cash cow fat...

...hey...it's been working for the last 35 years...all they have to do is keep the MSM on board...keep the truth off the evening news...by the time the public finally wakes up.... :lol: (if ever...)...it might still work...


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Editorial: Telling the truth on polar bears, global warming


May 17, 2008 12:00 AM (5 days ago) by The Washington DC Examiner Newspaper

http://www.examiner.com/a-1395919~Telli ... rming.html
Washington, D.C. (Map, News) - The U.S. government says the population of polar bears has increased four-fold since the 1960s, so the bureaucrats whose job security depends on stirring up environmental distress have classified the huge white beasts as an endangered species. Surely Alice in Wonderland has donned a disguise that makes her look and sound exactly like Secretary of the Interior Dirk Kempthorne. Alice issued a decision last week under Kempthorne’s signature that effectively mandates nothing can be done anywhere by anybody in the lower 48 states if it increases the greenhouse gases that fuel the global warming that is allegedly melting the Artic ice the polar bears require for survival....

...So, if the polar bear population is increasing because of laws, treaties and education programs that have been on the books for decades, what might be the real motive behind this latest global warming-induced lunacy?

Two things — ideological fanaticism and bureaucratic imperialism. First, elitist Americans are regularly seized by ideologically inspired enthusiasms that blind them to reality. Exhibit A here is California Democrat Barbara Boxer who chairs Inhofe’s panel. She claimed “the plight of the polar bear is a stark reminder that the planet is already experiencing the ravages of global warming. Today’s announcement underscores how important it is for the Senate to pass national legislation to cut global warming pollution and avert the dangerous effects of climate change.” Boxer has never been confused by the facts.

Second, the bureaucrats love it because implementing anti-global warming legislation will require vast budget and work force expansions for the Interior Department, Environmental Protection Agency and elsewhere throughout the federal leviathan. Combine these two factors and the result is a weapon of mass deception that obliterates reality.
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Wow - quoting a right-wing free rag that is only distributed to affluent, white neighborhoods...
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dbackjon wrote:Wow - quoting a right-wing free rag that is only distributed to affluent, white neighborhoods...
Evidently it's distributed World-wide and free to every creed, color, and sexual preference via the internet.
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And...

NASA's Hansen caught "cooking" the data...

http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=2964

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Another...

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/05/ ... h_w_1.html

Gore Celebrates Israel's 60th With Whoppers
After delivering a scientifically inept global warming lecture in Tel Aviv on Tuesday, greenhouse gasbag Al Gore presented Israel with a 60th birthday gift of custom tailored, regionally-targeted Globaloney.

As adaptable to his surroundings as any desert snake, the shameless Nobel laureate told conference attendees that plunging water levels in their lakes and rivers were the result of -- guess what? Quothe the Goracle:

"In this region of the world, the water crisis is one of the most important manifestations of the global climate change crisis."...

In reporting the story, the Associated Press offered this explanation for his reasoning:


"Water levels in Israel's major bodies of water are dropping quickly. The level of the Dead Sea, the lowest point on earth, has receded about 3 feet (1 meter) each year for the past 25 years. The Jordan River, the biblical location of Jesus' baptism, is only a few feet (centimeters) [sic] deep in some places."

Well put, but here's the problem -- while the waters are dropping, any allusions to a global warming connection are as bogus as AP's English-to-metric conversion (which I've taken the liberty to highlight).

As universally accepted and explained here by the Smithsonian, since the Dead Sea's outlet to its original affluent -- the Sea of Galilee -- evaporated about 18,000 years ago, it has maintained equilibrium by receiving "fresh water from rivers and streams from the mountains that surround it" to offset evaporation. But that changed 40 some odd years ago:

"Until the 1950s, the flow of fresh water equaled the rate of evaporation, and Dead Sea water levels held steady. Then in the 1960s, Israel built an enormous pumping station on the banks of the Sea of Galilee, diverting water from the upper Jordan, the Dead Sea's prime source, into a pipeline system that supplies water throughout the country. To make matters worse, in the 1970s Jordan and Syria began diverting the Yarmouk, the lower Jordan River's main tributary."

Gore's baloney aside, it was - in fact -- the diversion to farmland, hydroelectric projects and cities of 90 percent of the rivers that feed it that was responsible for the Dead Sea's dramatic declines. And the 1970 Yarmouk channel diversion only exacerbated the negative impact that Israel's 1964 Sea of Galilee damming was already having on Jordan River depths.
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dbackjon wrote:Wow - quoting a right-wing free rag that is only distributed to affluent, white neighborhoods...
Fair enough...

Here's one from a pro-gay, Liberal, Nationally Distributed paper (that could hardly be described as having an originating demographic of predominantly white readers)...

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la- ... 601.column

The church of green
A kind of irrational nature worship separates environmentalism from the more fair-minded approach of conservationism.
May 20, 2008

At its core, environmentalism is a kind of nature worship. It's a holistic ideology, shot through with religious sentiment. "If you look carefully," author Michael Crichton famously observed, "you see that environmentalism is in fact a perfect 21st century remapping of traditional Judeo-Christian beliefs and myths."

Environmentalism's most renewable resources are fear, guilt and moral bullying. Its worldview casts man as a sinful creature who, through the pursuit of forbidden knowledge, abandoned our Edenic past. John Muir, who laid the philosophical foundations of modern environmentalism, described humans as "selfish, conceited creatures." Salvation comes from shedding our sins, rejecting our addictions (to oil, consumerism, etc.) and demonstrating through deeds an all-encompassing love of Mother Earth. Quoth Al Gore: "The climate crisis is not a political issue; it is a moral and spiritual challenge to all of humanity."...
...Whether it's adopted the trappings of religion or not, my biggest beef with environmentalism is how comfortably irrational it is. It touts ritual over reality, symbolism over substance, while claiming to be so much more rational and scientific than those silly sky-God worshipers and deranged oil addicts.
It often seems that displaying faith in the green cause is more important than advancing the green cause. The U.S. government just put polar bears on the threatened species list because climate change is shrinking the Arctic ice where they live. Never mind that polar bears are in fact thriving -- their numbers have quadrupled in the last 50 years. Never mind that full implementation of the Kyoto protocols on greenhouse gases would save exactly one polar bear, according to Danish social scientist Bjorn Lomborg, author of the 2007 book "Cool It!"

Yet about 300 to 500 polar bears could be saved every year, starting right now, Lomborg says, if there were a ban on hunting them in Canada. What's cheaper, trillions to trim carbon emissions or paying off the Canadians to stop killing polar bears?...
...Plastic grocery bags are being banned all over the place, even though they require less energy to make or recycle than paper ones. The whole country is being forced to subscribe to a modern version of transubstantiation, whereby corn is miraculously transformed into sinless energy even as it does worse damage than oil.

Conservation, which shares roots and meaning with conservatism, stands athwart this mass hysteria. Yes, conservationism can have a religious element to it as well, but that element stems from the biblical injunction to be a good steward of the Earth, rather than a worshiper of it. But stewardship involves economics, not mysticism...
...Many self-described environmentalists are in fact conservationists. But the environmental movement wins battles by blurring this distinction, arguing that all lovers of nature must follow their lead. At the same time, many people open to conservationist arguments, like hunters, are turned off by even reasonable efforts because they do not want to give aid and comfort to "wackos."

In the broadest sense, the environmental movement has won. Americans are "green" in that they are willing to spend a lot to keep their country ecologically healthy, which it is. But now it's time to save the environment from the environmentalists.
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Environmentalism's most renewable resources are fear, guilt and moral bullying.
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dbackjon wrote:
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dbackjon wrote:Wow - quoting a right-wing free rag that is only distributed to affluent, white neighborhoods...
really? I didn't know their web servers could block ISP's from the inner-city and non-white locales.

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Re: Let The Lawsuits and Injunctions Commence...

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BigApp wrote:
dbackjon wrote:Wow - quoting a right-wing free rag that is only distributed to affluent, white neighborhoods...
really? I didn't know their web servers could block ISP's from the inner-city and non-white locales.

How much is that software?
The hard copies...hence the use of "rag"
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Re: Let The Lawsuits and Injunctions Commence...

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