2025 and Beyond Domestic Rightist Violence Thread

[Gil Dobie]

Two wrongs don't make a right.

What are your two wrongs here?

Both sides being reckless!

[UNI88]

If an islamist commits violence against a woman or an LGBTQ+ person, it's automatically leftist violence? No.

Yet they overwhelmingly vote left.

So your graph looks like those who vote Democrat commit more violence than those who vote Republican.

Violence against LGBTQ+ people is almost always rightist violence. Violence against women can be more nuanced but it is lazy as heck to assume that it's leftist violence because it was committed by a muslim.

[UNI88]

DoJ cases against protesters keep collapsing as officers’ lies are exposed in court

Department of Justice prosecutors across the US have suffered a string of embarrassing defeats in their aggressive pursuit of criminal cases against people accused of “assaulting” and “impeding” federal officers.

In recent months, the federal government has relentlessly prosecuted protesters, government critics, immigrants and others arrested during immigration operations, often accusing them of physically attacking officers or interfering with their duties.

But many of those cases have recently been dismissed or ended in not guilty verdicts.

In several high-profile cases, the prosecutions fell apart because they relied on statements by Department of Homeland Security (DHS) officers that had no supporting evidence or in some instances were proven by video footage to be blatantly false.

Criminal defense lawyers said it was unusual for federal prosecutors to pursue a high volume of charges over minor clashes with law enforcement, and that it was extraordinary to see the DoJ lose case after case across jurisdictions.

Still, the costs for defendants, even if ultimately exonerated, have been enormous, with many having their mugshots blasted by the government and some forced to languish in jail or have criminal charges hang over them for weeks and months.

[UNI88]

[UNI88]

Nearly blind refugee found dead in New York days after immigration agents dropped him at a coffee shop alone, officials say

“A vulnerable man – nearly blind and unable to speak English – was left alone on a cold winter night with no known attempt to leave him in a safe, secure location. That decision from US Customs and Border Protection was unprofessional and inhumane,” Buffalo Mayor Sean Ryan said Wednesday, calling Shah Alam’s death “preventable,” and insisting CBP “answer for how and why this happened.”

[BDKJMU]

Nearly blind refugee found dead in New York days after immigration agents dropped him at a coffee shop alone, officials say

“A vulnerable man – nearly blind and unable to speak English – was left alone on a cold winter night with no known attempt to leave him in a safe, secure location. That decision from US Customs and Border Protection was unprofessional and inhumane,” Buffalo Mayor Sean Ryan said Wednesday, calling Shah Alam’s death “preventable,” and insisting CBP “answer for how and why this happened.”

-The guy managed to travel all from Myanmar to the US just over a year ago
-BP gave him a courtesy ride to where he wanted to go,
-BP offered him a phone call WHICH HE DECLINED,

But it’s somehow BP‘s fault that this guy died of NATURAL CAUSES, not violence or exposure? Yet CNN pushing a narrative that BP agents were some how inhumane and responsible for his death leaving him at a safe warm location free from custody. Could you imagine the narrative if he would have died of natural causes in custody.

agents later determined Shah Alam had entered the United States as a refugee on December 24, 2024, and “was not amenable to removal.”

“Border Patrol agents offered him a courtesy ride, which he chose to accept to a coffee shop, determined to be a warm, safe location near his last known address, rather than be released directly from the Border Patrol station,” the statement said. “He showed no signs of distress, mobility issues or disabilities requiring special assistance.”.

Upon learning that Shah Alam was ineligible for removal, Border Patrol agents, using a translator program, attempted to communicate with him, according to a federal law enforcement official who said that Shah Alam asked to be taken to the location where he was eventually left. He was offered an opportunity to make a phone call but declined, the official said.

Sounds like BP went above and beyond. And QUNI88 thinks this is Rightist Violence.

[UNI88]

Nearly blind refugee found dead in New York days after immigration agents dropped him at a coffee shop alone, officials say

-The guy managed to travel all from Myanmar to the US just over a year ago
-BP gave him a courtesy ride to where he wanted to go,
-BP offered him a phone call WHICH HE DECLINED,

But it’s somehow BP‘s fault that this guy died of NATURAL CAUSES, not violence or exposure? Yet CNN pushing a narrative that BP agents were some how inhumane and responsible for his death leaving him at a safe warm location free from custody. Could you imagine the narrative if he would have died of natural causes in custody.

agents later determined Shah Alam had entered the United States as a refugee on December 24, 2024, and “was not amenable to removal.”

“Border Patrol agents offered him a courtesy ride, which he chose to accept to a coffee shop, determined to be a warm, safe location near his last known address, rather than be released directly from the Border Patrol station,” the statement said. “He showed no signs of distress, mobility issues or disabilities requiring special assistance.”.

Upon learning that Shah Alam was ineligible for removal, Border Patrol agents, using a translator program, attempted to communicate with him, according to a federal law enforcement official who said that Shah Alam asked to be taken to the location where he was eventually left. He was offered an opportunity to make a phone call but declined, the official said.

Sounds like BP went above and beyond. And QUNI88 thinks this is Rightist Violence.

You want to buy into an oceanfront timeshare in eastern Montana? Awesome!

How many times have DHS agents been caught lying? They destroyed their own credibility.

So much for being Party of Life Christians.

[UNI88]

-The guy managed to travel all from Myanmar to the US just over a year ago
-BP gave him a courtesy ride to where he wanted to go,
-BP offered him a phone call WHICH HE DECLINED,

But it’s somehow BP‘s fault that this guy died of NATURAL CAUSES, not violence or exposure? Yet CNN pushing a narrative that BP agents were some how inhumane and responsible for his death leaving him at a safe warm location free from custody. Could you imagine the narrative if he would have died of natural causes in custody.

Sounds like BP went above and beyond. And QUNI88 thinks this is Rightist Violence.

You want to buy into an oceanfront timeshare in eastern Montana? Awesome!

How many times have DHS agents been caught lying? They destroyed their own credibility.

So much for being Party of Life Christians.

Once again, BP has been caught lying ...

CNN’s Abby Phillip Jumps In When Scott Jennings Waves Away Dead Refugee as ‘Detail’ Trump Border Patrol ‘Missed’

But surveillance video obtained by The Washington Post later showed the man being dropped off nearly an hour after the shop closed, and the man never made it inside. Five days later, he was found dead.

The agents might have immunity but they were negligent at best and responsible for a man's unnecessary death.

BP agents have pissed any credibility they had down their legs. I can't imagine how anyone with a tiny amount of scruples and integrity could attempt to justify this.

[kalm]

You want to buy into an oceanfront timeshare in eastern Montana? Awesome!

How many times have DHS agents been caught lying? They destroyed their own credibility.

So much for being Party of Life Christians.

Once again, BP has been caught lying ...

CNN’s Abby Phillip Jumps In When Scott Jennings Waves Away Dead Refugee as ‘Detail’ Trump Border Patrol ‘Missed’

But surveillance video obtained by The Washington Post later showed the man being dropped off nearly an hour after the shop closed, and the man never made it inside. Five days later, he was found dead.

The agents might have immunity but they were negligent at best and responsible for a man's unnecessary death.

BP agents have pissed any credibility they had down their legs. I can't imagine how anyone with a tiny amount of scruples and integrity could attempt to justify this.

Impeach Noem. She’s a criminal at least guilty of multiple counts of manslaughter. Or at least arrest Cory Lewindowski who’s likely in charge of DHS.

[BDKJMU]

You want to buy into an oceanfront timeshare in eastern Montana? Awesome!

How many times have DHS agents been caught lying? They destroyed their own credibility.

So much for being Party of Life Christians.

Once again, BP has been caught lying ...

CNN’s Abby Phillip Jumps In When Scott Jennings Waves Away Dead Refugee as ‘Detail’ Trump Border Patrol ‘Missed’

But surveillance video obtained by The Washington Post later showed the man being dropped off nearly an hour after the shop closed, and the man never made it inside. Five days later, he was found dead.

The agents might have immunity but they were negligent at best and responsible for a man's unnecessary death.

BP agents have pissed any credibility they had down their legs. I can't imagine how anyone with a tiny amount of scruples and integrity could attempt to justify this.

Wrong. BP was under no obligation to give released suspects a ride anywhere. He accepted ride to near his last known address. Zero evidence presented in the original article he asked to be dropped off somewhere else.

[UNI88]

[UNI88]

Trump blows off John Roberts’ concerns, ups the ante in offensive against judges

As March got underway, CBS News’ “60 Minutes” ran a segment on federal judges who have ruled against the Trump administration, only to face a wave of threats from the president’s followers. Retired federal Judge John Jones, a George W. Bush appointee, told the program, “If we’re not careful, we’re going to get a judge killed. It’s just that stark.”

He was hardly the only one with these concerns. In mid-March, Politico reported on a trio of federal judges who “offered a blistering assessment of the Trump administration’s attacks on the judiciary, with one comparing them to the behavior of authoritarian regimes.” The jurists added that the president’s condemnations of jurists are responsible for fueling threats to their safety.

Two days later, after a federal judge threw out a baseless criminal case against Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell, Trump called Judge James Boasberg, the chief federal judge for the District of Columbia, “a Wacky, Nasty, Crooked, and totally Out of Control Judge.”

Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts soon after warned that personal condemnations of federal judges is dangerous and “it’s got to stop.”

The president is aware of the concerns. He just doesn’t seem to care.
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It might seem like ancient history, but in the run-up to Election Day 2024, Trump invested a fair amount of time in condemning those who criticize judges — as if his own rhetorical record didn’t exist. Such criticisms, the Republican said in August, are “probably illegal.” Two weeks later, he went a little further, adding that judicial criticism should be “illegal.”

[Caribbean Hen]

An observation from the airport today

“Two ICE officers at the gate to scan your boarding pass here at Philly airport literally couldn’t have been nicer. Gave the kids a sticker, asked about them, etc. They get such a bad rap “

[UNI88]

An observation from the airport today

“Two ICE officers at the gate to scan your boarding pass here at Philly airport literally couldn’t have been nicer. Gave the kids a sticker, asked about them, etc. They get such a bad rap “

They wouldn't have as bad of a rap if they'd stop murdering, tear gassing, pepper spraying, etc. mostly peaceful protesters.

[UNI88]

Death of a refugee left at a Buffalo doughnut shop by Border Patrol is ruled a homicide

The death of a nearly blind refugee from Myanmar who was found on a Buffalo street in February — five days after Border Patrol agents left him at a doughnut shop — has been ruled a homicide, authorities said Wednesday.

The Erie County Medical Examiner's Office didn't reach any conclusions about responsibility for Nurul Amin Shah Alam's death, which the agency said was caused by complications of a perforated duodenal ulcer, precipitated by hypothermia and dehydration. Ruling a death a homicide means it resulted from another person's actions — or inaction — but doesn't necessarily mean that a crime was committed.

“This should not have happened,” Erie County Executive Mark Poloncarz, a Democrat, said at a news conference Wednesday. Asked whether the Border Patrol was responsible for his death, he declined to comment and said any such determination would be up to law enforcement agencies.

[Caribbean Hen]

An observation from the airport today

“Two ICE officers at the gate to scan your boarding pass here at Philly airport literally couldn’t have been nicer. Gave the kids a sticker, asked about them, etc. They get such a bad rap “

They wouldn't have as bad of a rap if they'd stop murdering, tear gassing, pepper spraying, etc. mostly peaceful protesters.

A narrative orchestrated by people who have never done law-enforcement in their entire life and sit around there pearly white gated communities, all safe and sound but criticize ICE officers for doing a job better than they ever could

[UNI88]

They wouldn't have as bad of a rap if they'd stop murdering, tear gassing, pepper spraying, etc. mostly peaceful protesters.

A narrative orchestrated by people who have never done law-enforcement in their entire life and sit around there pearly white gated communities, all safe and sound but criticize ICE officers for doing a job better than they ever could

When did the topic of discussion switch to the January 6 rioters?

[Caribbean Hen]

A narrative orchestrated by people who have never done law-enforcement in their entire life and sit around there pearly white gated communities, all safe and sound but criticize ICE officers for doing a job better than they ever could

When did the topic of discussion switch to the January 6 rioters?

Whenever you post in your one track mind

[UNI88]

Video brings new scrutiny to an ICE shooting in Minneapolis after charges against 2 men collapsed

The video — from a city-owned security camera — captured part of the incident in which federal officers chased a Venezuelan man to his residence. Another Venezuelan man who lives there was shot during the confrontation. Federal authorities in February dropped all charges against the two immigrants and opened a criminal investigation into whether two immigration officers lied under oath about what had happened.
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“The video makes it crystal clear that, just like in other situations during Operation Metro Surge, the federal government’s account of what happened simply does not match the facts,” Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey said in a statement.
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The cases against Aljorna and Sosa-Celis were dropped after a highly unusual motion from the chief federal prosecutor for Minnesota, U.S. Attorney Daniel Rosen, who said “newly discovered evidence” was “materially inconsistent with the allegations” that were made in the criminal complaint and with evidence presented at a hearing at their preliminary hearing. He said dismissal with prejudice, which meant the charges couldn't be refiled, “would serve the interests of justice.”

More reasons not to trust the statements of ICE/CBP agents.

[UNI88]

Man Charged By Trump Admin After Removing Tear Gas From Crowd Found Not Guilty

By the government’s own admission, no federal agent was hit or harmed by the canister, which flew over the heads of agents and landed far behind them. Prosecutors argued instead that Caravello threatened and intended to harm agents, although they failed to identify a specific individual who was supposedly at risk of being harmed. Caravello’s attorney presented evidence that U.S. Border Patrol agents deployed tear gas indiscriminately at peaceful protesters and observers without reason or warning, and that Caravello was acting in self-defense when he threw the canister away from the crowd.

The jury returned their verdict after roughly two hours of deliberation. They found Caravello not guilty of assault on a federal officer with a deadly or dangerous weapon, as well as a lesser included offense of assault on a federal officer.

The hypocrisy of the federal government's charges is astounding.

They charged a man who tossed a tear gas canister, that agents had thrown into a crowd of protesters exercising their Constitutional rights, with assault on a federal officer with a deadly or dangerous weapon. If the man was assaulting a federal officer with a deadly or dangerous weapon then the agent who threw it first assaulted protesters with a deadly or dangerous weapon. It's either a deadly or dangerous weapon or it isn't.

[UNI88]