My Wife Plans to Resign from State Republican Central Committee

[Ibanez]

Even though I disagree with HIllary I think she is running because she has certain fundamental beliefs about what is best for society. She wants to implement those beliefs. I think Trump is running because he has Narcissistic Personality Disorder. It's an ego thing with him. He has no core values or principles. He just decided he wants to be President.

Well, this post clinches it. JSO is the biggest troll on CS.com. Spandos doesn't come close.

Hillary doesn't have any altruism in her genetic code. It's all selfishness and mendacity.

I have no doubts that Clinton has beliefs about what's best for society...however I think those beliefs are self-serving. Basically she's all about 'da Benjamin's.'

[Ivytalk]

Well, this post clinches it. JSO is the biggest troll on CS.com. Spandos doesn't come close.

Hillary doesn't have any altruism in her genetic code. It's all selfishness and mendacity.

I have no doubts that Clinton has beliefs about what's best for society...however I think those beliefs are self-serving. Basically she's all about 'da Benjamin's.'

Da Simoleons and Da Powah.

[YoUDeeMan]

It is amazing that JSO and his wife blame Trump supporters for destroying the Republican party, when it was people like themselves that ruined that Republican party.

Closed minded, racist, bigoted, xenophobic, homophobes...it is absolutely hilarious that JSO and his wife are calling Trump unfit for office because Trump's personality is an affront to them.

Intolerant clowns want order and chaos...even if that order is the devil dressed up in Hillary clothing.

They are so focused on Trump's presentation and appearance that they ignore the fact that lying Hillary will continue to rip apart the America they supposedly love (all while laughing a them). What good is it to say you support something, and then run away when its very existence is threatened? It is as if the devil herself is watching them come under her umbrella.

Cover your eyes, children...someone made in God's image is naked!!! And someone who says it is OK to fvck a dog is worried about Trump's testosterone level talking about getting some pvssy.

Holy BatshIt crazy, Batman!

[andy7171]

If Trump loses, he goes back to being rich as fuck with a beautiful wife and very up standing children.

If Clinton loses, she will sue and lawyer her way into a prolonged recount fight like the nightmare that was Bush/Gore until 9-11 started.

...but sure keep on thinking Trump wants a job worth 0.05% of his net worth.

[kalm]

It is amazing that JSO and his wife blame Trump supporters for destroying the Republican party, when it was people like themselves that ruined that Republican party.

Closed minded, racist, bigoted, xenophobic, homophobes...it is absolutely hilarious that JSO and his wife are calling Trump unfit for office because Trump's personality is an affront to them.

Intolerant clowns want order and chaos...even if that order is the devil dressed up in Hillary clothing.

They are so focused on Trump's presentation and appearance that they ignore the fact that lying Hillary will continue to rip apart the America they supposedly love (all while laughing a them). What good is it to say you support something, and then run away when its very existence is threatened? It is as if the devil herself is watching them come under her umbrella.

Cover your eyes, children...someone made in God's image is naked!!! And someone who says it is OK to fvck a dog is worried about Trump's testosterone level talking about getting some pvssy.

Holy BatshIt crazy, Batman!

Republican Party establishment played a huge roll in creating Trump.

[Chizzang]

It is amazing that JSO and his wife blame Trump supporters for destroying the Republican party, when it was people like themselves that ruined that Republican party.

Closed minded, racist, bigoted, xenophobic, homophobes...it is absolutely hilarious that JSO and his wife are calling Trump unfit for office because Trump's personality is an affront to them.

Intolerant clowns want order and chaos...even if that order is the devil dressed up in Hillary clothing.

They are so focused on Trump's presentation and appearance that they ignore the fact that lying Hillary will continue to rip apart the America they supposedly love (all while laughing a them). What good is it to say you support something, and then run away when its very existence is threatened? It is as if the devil herself is watching them come under her umbrella.

Cover your eyes, children...someone made in God's image is naked!!! And someone who says it is OK to fvck a dog is worried about Trump's testosterone level talking about getting some pvssy.

Holy BatshIt crazy, Batman!

Never stick your dick in crazy... My old man used to tell me
and that is exactly what the Republican Party establishment has done

By telling everybody for two decades

1) The boogie man is coming
2) America "used to be" great
3) Things are worse now than ever

Well here we are...
They've driven a portion of their constituency over the edge (like buffalo)

[CAA Flagship]

It is amazing that JSO and his wife blame Trump supporters for destroying the Republican party, when it was people like themselves that ruined that Republican party.

Closed minded, racist, bigoted, xenophobic, homophobes...it is absolutely hilarious that JSO and his wife are calling Trump unfit for office because Trump's personality is an affront to them.

Intolerant clowns want order and chaos...even if that order is the devil dressed up in Hillary clothing.

They are so focused on Trump's presentation and appearance that they ignore the fact that lying Hillary will continue to rip apart the America they supposedly love (all while laughing a them). What good is it to say you support something, and then run away when its very existence is threatened? It is as if the devil herself is watching them come under her umbrella.

Cover your eyes, children...someone made in God's image is naked!!! And someone who says it is OK to fvck a dog is worried about Trump's testosterone level talking about getting some pvssy.

Holy BatshIt crazy, Batman!

Dammit. I agree with that^^^. Chizzy and I are on the same page.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGKUjcESCcU[/youtube]

[CID1990]

It is amazing that JSO and his wife blame Trump supporters for destroying the Republican party, when it was people like themselves that ruined that Republican party.

Closed minded, racist, bigoted, xenophobic, homophobes...it is absolutely hilarious that JSO and his wife are calling Trump unfit for office because Trump's personality is an affront to them.

Intolerant clowns want order and chaos...even if that order is the devil dressed up in Hillary clothing.

They are so focused on Trump's presentation and appearance that they ignore the fact that lying Hillary will continue to rip apart the America they supposedly love (all while laughing a them). What good is it to say you support something, and then run away when its very existence is threatened? It is as if the devil herself is watching them come under her umbrella.

Cover your eyes, children...someone made in God's image is naked!!! And someone who says it is OK to fvck a dog is worried about Trump's testosterone level talking about getting some pvssy.

Holy BatshIt crazy, Batman!

Never stick your dick in crazy... My old man used to tell me
and that is exactly what the Republican Party establishment has done

By telling everybody for two decades

1) The boogie man is coming
2) America "used to be" great
3) Things are worse now than ever

Well here we are...
They've driven a portion of their constituency over the edge (like buffalo)

If I was saying this about the Democratic Party

Like-

there's an epidemic of cops killing blacks

we need to call 8 year old Sally "Pat" and let her use the boys room (and maybe even get her some surgery)

the proper response to politics you don't like is to beat people and burn shit down

conservatism = racism and starving children and seniors

the rule of law isn't important if it interferes with "larger truths" or ambitions

Disagreeable speech should be criminalized

The planet is just a couple generations away from being Mars



You would be the first one here to (mostly correctly) point out that the GOP has its crazies too (so I'm just doing my duty here)

We're all fvcked and both sides have their foot on the populist gas - today it's Trump but tomorrow it will be those who grew up with trigger warnings and safe spaces electing Presidents - and those Presidents ain't going to be Republicans or Whigs or whatever passes for conservative




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[Ibanez]

It is amazing that JSO and his wife blame Trump supporters for destroying the Republican party, when it was people like themselves that ruined that Republican party.

Closed minded, racist, bigoted, xenophobic, homophobes...it is absolutely hilarious that JSO and his wife are calling Trump unfit for office because Trump's personality is an affront to them.

Intolerant clowns want order and chaos...even if that order is the devil dressed up in Hillary clothing.

They are so focused on Trump's presentation and appearance that they ignore the fact that lying Hillary will continue to rip apart the America they supposedly love (all while laughing a them). What good is it to say you support something, and then run away when its very existence is threatened? It is as if the devil herself is watching them come under her umbrella.

Cover your eyes, children...someone made in God's image is naked!!! And someone who says it is OK to fvck a dog is worried about Trump's testosterone level talking about getting some pvssy.

Holy BatshIt crazy, Batman!

Never stick your dick in crazy... My old man used to tell me

C'mon...sometimes all you want is some crazy/strange.

[Ibanez]

Never stick your dick in crazy... My old man used to tell me
and that is exactly what the Republican Party establishment has done

By telling everybody for two decades

1) The boogie man is coming
2) America "used to be" great
3) Things are worse now than ever

Well here we are...
They've driven a portion of their constituency over the edge (like buffalo)

If I was saying this about the Democratic Party

Like-

there's an epidemic of cops killing blacks

we need to call 8 year old Sally "Pat" and let her use the boys room (and maybe even get her some surgery)

the proper response to politics you don't like is to beat people and burn shit down

conservatism = racism and starving children and seniors

the rule of law isn't important if it interferes with "larger truths" or ambitions

Disagreeable speech should be criminalized

The planet is just a couple generations away from being Mars


You would be the first one here to (mostly correctly) point out that the GOP has its crazies too (so I'm just doing my duty here)

We're all fvcked and both sides have their foot on the populist gas - today it's Trump but tomorrow it will be those who grew up with trigger warnings and safe spaces electing Presidents - and those Presidents ain't going to be Republicans or Whigs or whatever passes for conservative

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I'm curious as to what this shitty generation trigger warning pansies is going to do when they start getting elected. There's a tipping point, in every society, where people end up reacting. 1775 and 1860 in America. 1791(?) Franc. 1933 Germany. 1991 USSR. Years of war, corruption, abuses, neglect, problems, etc.. all culminated in a tipping point that altered the society in a drastic way. What will ours be? It certainly isn't HB2 or BLM...but it'll be something.

[andy7171]

I applaud anyone for giving up on the two major parties.

I think I'm going to switch my registration from Libertarian Party to Constitution Party.

[Ibanez]

The Constitution Party....what a bunch of hacks. They want personal liberty as long as it's for heterosexual Christians.

No government may legitimately authorize or define marriage or family relations contrary to what God has instituted.

http://www.constitutionparty.com/family/

But we aren't a theocracy, so God and his institutions are a moot point.

The Constitution Party is a socially conservative party. It's the Tea Party.

[JohnStOnge]

I have no doubts that Clinton has beliefs about what's best for society...however I think those beliefs are self-serving. Basically she's all about 'da Benjamin's.'

Then why did she come out of Yale Law and do this:

She wanted to go to work for the Children's defense fund. When she found that they couldn't afford to hire her she got a grant to go to work for them for $18,000 per year. Even way back in 1973 when she graduated that was a pretty low salary for a Yale Law graduate. That's not exactly consistent with just being concerned about "da Benjamins."

[houndawg]

I have no doubts that Clinton has beliefs about what's best for society...however I think those beliefs are self-serving. Basically she's all about 'da Benjamin's.'

Then why did she come out of Yale Law and do this:

She wanted to go to work for the Children's defense fund. When she found that they couldn't afford to hire her she got a grant to go to work for them for $18,000 per year. Even way back in 1973 when she graduated that was a pretty low salary for a Yale Law graduate. That's not exactly consistent with just being concerned about "da Benjamins."

Did your wife resign yet?

[JohnStOnge]

It is amazing that JSO and his wife blame Trump supporters for destroying the Republican party, when it was people like themselves that ruined that Republican party.

Closed minded, racist, bigoted, xenophobic, homophobes...it is absolutely hilarious that JSO and his wife are calling Trump unfit for office because Trump's personality is an affront to them.

Intolerant clowns want order and chaos...even if that order is the devil dressed up in Hillary clothing.

They are so focused on Trump's presentation and appearance that they ignore the fact that lying Hillary will continue to rip apart the America they supposedly love (all while laughing a them). What good is it to say you support something, and then run away when its very existence is threatened? It is as if the devil herself is watching them come under her umbrella.

Cover your eyes, children...someone made in God's image is naked!!! And someone who says it is OK to fvck a dog is worried about Trump's testosterone level talking about getting some pvssy.

Holy BatshIt crazy, Batman!

Dude. It's not just Trump's order and appearance. Trump has the emotional maturity of a 10 year old at best and he is unstable. He is extremely dishonest. Putting someone like him into that job is insane.

And on the dog thing: I have said and continue to say that if someone owns a dog and wants to fuck it government should not be involved in that. It's pretty much equivalent to fucking a sex doll you buy. It's your property.

But that doesn't mean I'd vote for somebody like that to be President.

[Ibanez]

I have no doubts that Clinton has beliefs about what's best for society...however I think those beliefs are self-serving. Basically she's all about 'da Benjamin's.'

Then why did she come out of Yale Law and do this:

She wanted to go to work for the Children's defense fund. When she found that they couldn't afford to hire her she got a grant to go to work for them for $18,000 per year. Even way back in 1973 when she graduated that was a pretty low salary for a Yale Law graduate. That's not exactly consistent with just being concerned about "da Benjamins."

You're cherry picking something she did 43 yrs ago. How about what she's done since 2000....where she's made millions and millions and millions. Seriously, you're just telling yourself lies to hide the fact that you're voting for a candidate SO BAD, that even with a shitty candidate like Trump can't make people like her more.

[houndawg]

Then why did she come out of Yale Law and do this:

She wanted to go to work for the Children's defense fund. When she found that they couldn't afford to hire her she got a grant to go to work for them for $18,000 per year. Even way back in 1973 when she graduated that was a pretty low salary for a Yale Law graduate. That's not exactly consistent with just being concerned about "da Benjamins."

You're cherry picking something she did 43 yrs ago. How about what she's done since 2000....where she's made millions and millions and millions. Seriously, you're just telling yourself lies to hide the fact that you're voting for a candidate SO BAD, that even with a shitty candidate like Trump can't make people like her more.

Good thing the conks nominated such a shitty candidate!

[Baldy]

I have no doubts that Clinton has beliefs about what's best for society...however I think those beliefs are self-serving. Basically she's all about 'da Benjamin's.'

Then why did she come out of Yale Law and do this:

She wanted to go to work for the Children's defense fund. When she found that they couldn't afford to hire her she got a grant to go to work for them for $18,000 per year. Even way back in 1973 when she graduated that was a pretty low salary for a Yale Law graduate. That's not exactly consistent with just being concerned about "da Benjamins."

Total idiot...

Hillary's Adventures In Cattle Futures Land

PLAYING THE COMMODITIES MARKETS was the hip thing to do around Arkansas in the late 1970s. All you needed was a few thousand dollars, a smart broker and strong nerves. Jim Blair, an attorney with a reputation for financial savvy, was speculating in the Chicago futures markets and doing well. "That man was magic at that time," an old friend says. "He knew how to do that stuff, and he gave lots of advice." Hillary Rodham was one of Diane Blair's best friends: in 1979, she had been the only attendant at their wedding. In the fall of 1978, when her husband was running for governor for the first time, Hillary took Jim Blair's advice and rolled the dice.

She was, by all appearances, being gutsy. Dabbling in commodities futures can make you very rich one day and wipe you out the next. The Clintons, whose combined salaries totaled only about $50,000 in 1978, were accepting large risks. Futures trading requires investors to bet whether the price of some commodity, such as live cattle, is going up or down. Those who bet right, in buying and selling "futures contracts," can make big money. Those who bet wrong can lose far more than they invested. "There were days of exaltation and days of terror," Diane Blair recalls. "Jim was tense. It was always apparent whether it was a good day or a bad day."

The trick for Blair, like any investor, was finding the right broker-somebody with a nose for where the markets were going and a willingness to cut you in. "We used to wonder how in the world there were so many of these [brokers]," the old friend says. "There was a slaphappy mood. They would either do anything until they got caught, or it was pretty easy to step over the line." Jim Blair had one of the sharpest brokers anywhere-Robert L. (Red) Bone, who managed the Springdale, Ark., office for a broker age firm called Refco Inc.

Hillary bought in. On Oct. 11, 1978, she opened a trading account at Refco with a $1,000 check. Records released by the White House last week show she was an instant winner, racking up a $5,300 gain in her account within days. The White House says she may actually have started this transaction several days before her check was cashed. Mrs. Clinton made a second killing 10 days later, for $7,850, and still another-$7,277-seven days after that. Over the next nine months, trading mainly in cattle, Mrs. Clinton parlayed her initial investment into a profit of nearly $100,000. That rate of return would dazzle any amateur investor and many professionals as well. The mystery is how she did it: even the White House now concedes Hillary Clinton was no expert. "This is like buying ice skates one day and entering the Olympics a day later," 'says Mark Powers, editor of the journal of Futures Markets. "She took some extraordinary risks."

Or did she? Hillary had help-good advice from Jim Blair and, probably, even better advice from Red Bone. Bone, now in his 60s and no longer a broker, has been unreachable to most reporters. But he has told The New York Times that he doesn't remember dealing with Hillary at all.

Bone and Refco, as it happens. were under investigation by the Chicago Mercantile Exchange for systematic violations of Merc rules during the entire period Mrs. Clinton was their client. The investigation culminated in December 1979 in a three-year suspension for Bone himself and a $250,000 fine for Refco-an amount that at the time was the largest penalty ever imposed by the exchange. The violations officially involved sloppy recordkeeping and lax account management. But NEWSWEEK has obtained documents showing that Refco acknowledged there had been "allegations of certain position-limit violations" as well. Secret documents from the Merc's disciplinary files show that Merc officials were concerned that Refco frequently took dominant positions in the cattle-futures market. In one instance, on Oct. 4. 1978, Merc investigators suspected that Refco controlled 60 percent of the long interest in the October Live Cattle Contract. Brokers call this a "squeeze." It is just a step or two away from cornering the market. An attorney for Refco said the company "never consented to the manipulation charges."

White House staff secretary John Podesta says Mrs. Clinton "was unaware of any allegations of market manipulation" and "unaware that Bone had ever been disciplined" until after she had closed her account. Podesta also says she "put up her own money, invested it in her own accounts and assumed the full risk of loss." No one has produced evidence to the contrary. But knowledgeable professionals say the records raise questions about the way Refco managed her account.

Total.Fucking.Corrupt.Crook.

And JSO is worried about integrity.

[JohnStOnge]

Then why did she come out of Yale Law and do this:

She wanted to go to work for the Children's defense fund. When she found that they couldn't afford to hire her she got a grant to go to work for them for $18,000 per year. Even way back in 1973 when she graduated that was a pretty low salary for a Yale Law graduate. That's not exactly consistent with just being concerned about "da Benjamins."

Total idiot...

Hillary's Adventures In Cattle Futures Land

PLAYING THE COMMODITIES MARKETS was the hip thing to do around Arkansas in the late 1970s. All you needed was a few thousand dollars, a smart broker and strong nerves. Jim Blair, an attorney with a reputation for financial savvy, was speculating in the Chicago futures markets and doing well. "That man was magic at that time," an old friend says. "He knew how to do that stuff, and he gave lots of advice." Hillary Rodham was one of Diane Blair's best friends: in 1979, she had been the only attendant at their wedding. In the fall of 1978, when her husband was running for governor for the first time, Hillary took Jim Blair's advice and rolled the dice.

She was, by all appearances, being gutsy. Dabbling in commodities futures can make you very rich one day and wipe you out the next. The Clintons, whose combined salaries totaled only about $50,000 in 1978, were accepting large risks. Futures trading requires investors to bet whether the price of some commodity, such as live cattle, is going up or down. Those who bet right, in buying and selling "futures contracts," can make big money. Those who bet wrong can lose far more than they invested. "There were days of exaltation and days of terror," Diane Blair recalls. "Jim was tense. It was always apparent whether it was a good day or a bad day."

The trick for Blair, like any investor, was finding the right broker-somebody with a nose for where the markets were going and a willingness to cut you in. "We used to wonder how in the world there were so many of these [brokers]," the old friend says. "There was a slaphappy mood. They would either do anything until they got caught, or it was pretty easy to step over the line." Jim Blair had one of the sharpest brokers anywhere-Robert L. (Red) Bone, who managed the Springdale, Ark., office for a broker age firm called Refco Inc.

Hillary bought in. On Oct. 11, 1978, she opened a trading account at Refco with a $1,000 check. Records released by the White House last week show she was an instant winner, racking up a $5,300 gain in her account within days. The White House says she may actually have started this transaction several days before her check was cashed. Mrs. Clinton made a second killing 10 days later, for $7,850, and still another-$7,277-seven days after that. Over the next nine months, trading mainly in cattle, Mrs. Clinton parlayed her initial investment into a profit of nearly $100,000. That rate of return would dazzle any amateur investor and many professionals as well. The mystery is how she did it: even the White House now concedes Hillary Clinton was no expert. "This is like buying ice skates one day and entering the Olympics a day later," 'says Mark Powers, editor of the journal of Futures Markets. "She took some extraordinary risks."

Or did she? Hillary had help-good advice from Jim Blair and, probably, even better advice from Red Bone. Bone, now in his 60s and no longer a broker, has been unreachable to most reporters. But he has told The New York Times that he doesn't remember dealing with Hillary at all.

Bone and Refco, as it happens. were under investigation by the Chicago Mercantile Exchange for systematic violations of Merc rules during the entire period Mrs. Clinton was their client. The investigation culminated in December 1979 in a three-year suspension for Bone himself and a $250,000 fine for Refco-an amount that at the time was the largest penalty ever imposed by the exchange. The violations officially involved sloppy recordkeeping and lax account management. But NEWSWEEK has obtained documents showing that Refco acknowledged there had been "allegations of certain position-limit violations" as well. Secret documents from the Merc's disciplinary files show that Merc officials were concerned that Refco frequently took dominant positions in the cattle-futures market. In one instance, on Oct. 4. 1978, Merc investigators suspected that Refco controlled 60 percent of the long interest in the October Live Cattle Contract. Brokers call this a "squeeze." It is just a step or two away from cornering the market. An attorney for Refco said the company "never consented to the manipulation charges."

White House staff secretary John Podesta says Mrs. Clinton "was unaware of any allegations of market manipulation" and "unaware that Bone had ever been disciplined" until after she had closed her account. Podesta also says she "put up her own money, invested it in her own accounts and assumed the full risk of loss." No one has produced evidence to the contrary. But knowledgeable professionals say the records raise questions about the way Refco managed her account.

Total.****.Corrupt.Crook.

And JSO is worried about integrity.

You guys do realize, do you not, that none of that long narrative contains any actual evidence that Hillary did anything wrong. See the "no one has produced any evidence to the contrary" statement in the last paragraph. And even the subsequent statement doesn't say anything about Hillary. It says knowledgeable professionals say questions were raised about how somebody managed her account.

Big fail on your part, guys.

[93henfan]

If you can't accept and admit that Hillary Clinton is in the upper echelon of corrupt politicians of all time, then you are the biggest idiot on this board. Actually, don't answer. You've already proven yourself as the biggest idiot here.

[JohnStOnge]

If you can't accept and admit that Hillary Clinton is in the upper echelon of corrupt politicians of all time, then you are the biggest idiot on this board. Actually, don't answer. You've already proven yourself as the biggest idiot here.

No, it means I am rational. I have historically opposed Hillary Clinton's policy positions. But it is true that the lunatic fringe right has been engaged in trying to demonize her for decades and that when you really look at what they have there's very little actual "there" there. Very little is actually substantiated. Like it's not substantiated that she attacked women accusing Bill of sexual misconduct. It's not substantiated that she lied about Benghazi. It's not substantiated that she lied about her e mails. It's not substantiated that there was any "pay for play" associated with the Clinton Foundation.

Now, if it makes you feel better, it's pretty clear that it wasn't true when she said she was under sniper fire in Bosnia. Whoopdie doo. But most of the stuff people throw at her isn't substantiated.

And there is no "there" there with the Cattle futures thing. There's no evidence at all that she did anything wrong, corrupt, dishonest, or whatever.

[Baldy]

You guys do realize, do you not, that none of that long narrative contains any actual evidence that Hillary did anything wrong. See the "no one has produced any evidence to the contrary" statement in the last paragraph. And even the subsequent statement doesn't say anything about Hillary. It says knowledgeable professionals say questions were raised about how somebody managed her account.

Big fail on your part, guys.

Imbecile

No, the knowledgeable people said the firm (Refco) who was making her trades was under investigation by the Chicago Mercantile Exchange for systematic violations of Merc rules during the entire period The Hildabeast was their client. It should be no surprise to you that Refco was corrupt to the core. It was forced into bankruptcy due to accounting fraud, and during its lifespan as a company, it was sanctioned over 100 times by various Federal regulatory agencies. It should also be of no surprise to you that MF Global, and it's corrupt Clintonite CEO John Corzine acquired the "assets" of Refco. Shockingly, MF Global was bilking its clients and is now under liquidation by the Securities Investor Protection Corporation.

#CrookedHillary #ClintonCorruption #JSOIrrationalIdiot

[Ivytalk]

Have fun with the Constitution Party, JSO. If you play your cards right, you could be their nominee in 2020.

Failing that, you could be Hildacoont's press secretary and explain away all those "unsubstantiated lies" she's told.

[Pwns]

We've become a staggeringly-ignorant, easily-manipulated electorate. That is the chief cause of why our government is so broken and feckless, not money in politics. I don't see how anyone can deny it anymore. We're getting everything we deserve.

The warning signs were all there in 2008 when people voted for a freshman senator 'cause "hope and change" and because he made people feel warm and fuzzy on the inside. his biggest accomplishment was being elected when there was nowhere for the economy to go but up and bending over backwards to appoint as many women and minorities as possible to his cabinet. Hillary is being voted for because of her last name and because of brain-dead idiots who think having a president with a vulva is the most pressing issue.

The democrat party will have its Trump sooner rather than later.

[kalm]

We've become a staggeringly-ignorant, easily-manipulated electorate. That is the chief cause of why our government is so broken and feckless, not money in politics. I don't see how anyone can deny it anymore. We're getting everything we deserve.

The warning signs were all there in 2008 when people voted for a freshman senator 'cause "hope and change" and because he made people feel warm and fuzzy on the inside. his biggest accomplishment was being elected when there was nowhere for the economy to go but up and bending over backwards to appoint as many women and minorities as possible to his cabinet. Hillary is being voted for because of her last name and because of brain-dead idiots who think having a president with a vulva is the most pressing issue.

The democrat party will have its Trump sooner rather than later.

True...to a certain extent. But I know a number of truly smart people who throw their hands up regarding politics or who do not have the time to delve deep, as their careers, families, etc. are more important. So yes ignorant, but the subconscious perception is that it doesn't matter all that much who they vote for in the end.

That's partly true, as two parties have a stranglehold on the system and take money from the same established power base (which also owns a good chunk of the media). So the same smart but ignorant person approaches the ballot box perceiving that they only have two choices.

Money and duopoly.