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Kasich is speaking at 11:00 today, 3 miles from my house at Scout Boats. Damn, I wish I didn't have a telecon at that time. I'm looking forward to hearing him, but I know there will be ample opportunities in the future.
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Ted Cruz calling Mitch McConnell a liar on the Senate floor now. :lol:

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Ted Cruz calling Mitch McConnell a liar on the Senate floor now. :lol:

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc ... ource=SFFB" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Moves Cruz up a notch in my book. :nod:
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HI54UNI wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:Image



Ted Cruz calling Mitch McConnell a liar on the Senate floor now. :lol:

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc ... ource=SFFB" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Moves Cruz up a notch in my book. :nod:
He's trying to Trump McConnell
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dbackjon wrote:
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Moves Cruz up a notch in my book. :nod:
He's trying to Trump McConnell
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kalm wrote:Kasich seems reasonable and centrist on many issues. If the Republicans are smart he should be getting a looksy. :ohno:

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc ... es/399044/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I saw a Fox News report that he is the candidate the Hillary Clinton camp would least like to run against. But since it's Fox News I"m guessing liberals won't believe it.
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Re: 2016 Republican Primary

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Trump takes a significant early lead
Polls suggest trump has a plurality with all the candidates being considered but I suspect that if you were to do some "match up" polls with him going head to head against each of the other Republican candidates there are some he'd be blown out by. Like if you just made the two choices him or Jeb Bush I suspect Bush would come out way ahead. Same with Scott Walker and Marco Rubio. I think what's happening is that the more traditional candidates are splitting picks in polls. Like if you were to poll whether Republicans would vote for Bush or Trump I think just about all that say they'd vote for Walker, Rubio, Paul, etc., when given all the Republican candidates as choices would vote for Bush over Trump.

The problem for Trump is that there is a very large component that would not vote for him under any circumstances. Here's one article on that:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the ... g-for-him/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I don't know exactly what he's up to but he's got to know he has NO shot. All he can possibly do is screw up what is looking more and more like a good Republican shot to retake the Presidency. Sometimes I wonder if he's like a Democrat plant.
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JohnStOnge wrote:
kalm wrote:Kasich seems reasonable and centrist on many issues. If the Republicans are smart he should be getting a looksy. :ohno:

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc ... es/399044/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I saw a Fox News report that he is the candidate the Hillary Clinton camp would least like to run against. But since it's Fox News I"m guessing liberals won't believe it.
I believe it. I also believe that Hillary has a bigger problem with Bernie than generally assumed.
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They usually do head-to-head matchup polling like that for the general election.

No point to do them for the primary... since... you know... they're campaigning against each other and not head-to-head.

Look at battleground states, sure. But, head-to-head seems pointless to look at in a primary at this point.
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I saw a Fox News report that he is the candidate the Hillary Clinton camp would least like to run against. But since it's Fox News I"m guessing liberals won't believe it.
I believe it. I also believe that Hillary has a bigger problem with Bernie than generally assumed.
The longer Bernie hangs around the more it hurts Hillary's campaign. The best move a Rep in IA might be able to make for the party is to vote for Bernie in the Dem caucuses. He does well there or in NH and it puts a serious dent into Hillary's attempt to be the inevitable above the fray candidate. Plus she has a limited shelf life in a campaign. The longer she's in the spotlight the more her warts show and the more she just wears on people. Her best bet is to finish this early so she doesn't really have to campaign until the general election.
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UNI88 wrote:
houndawg wrote:
I believe it. I also believe that Hillary has a bigger problem with Bernie than generally assumed.
The longer Bernie hangs around the more it hurts Hillary's campaign. The best move a Rep in IA might be able to make for the party is to vote for Bernie in the Dem caucuses. He does well there or in NH and it puts a serious dent into Hillary's attempt to be the inevitable above the fray candidate. Plus she has a limited shelf life in a campaign. The longer she's in the spotlight the more her warts show and the more she just wears on people. Her best bet is to finish this early so she doesn't really have to campaign until the general election.
That didn't work out so well in '08 when she was also considered to the inevitable candidate. She's hearing footsteps bigtime.
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Trump lead growing nationally... and, doing well in Iowa and New Hampshire. :coffee:
Even after a week of attacks over his criticism of John McCain, Donald Trump continues to lead the Republican Party presidential field, a new CNN/ORC poll says.

Trump, at 18% among Republican and GOP-leaning voters, leads Jeb Bush at 15% and Scott Walker with 10%, the survey says.

The many other Republican candidates are in single digits.

“Trump’s backing has climbed 6 points since a late-June poll, while support for Bush and Walker has not changed significantly,” CNN reports.

Two other NBC News-Marist polls also show Trump doing well in the early contest states of Iowa and New Hampshire.

The billionaire leads in New Hampshire with 21%, followed by Bush at 14%, and Walker at 12%.

Walker, the governor of Wisconsin, leads in neighboring Iowa with 19%, followed by Trump at 17%, and Bush at 12%, according to the NBC-Marist survey.
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These polls are as good as pre-season FBS or FCS polls.
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Trump vs Sanders would be a hoot! :lol:

Never happen, but it would be hysterical! Larry David will play Sanders in the movie.
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A conservative North Carolina congressman began an effort early Tuesday evening to challenge House Speaker John Boehner's leadership.

Rep. Mark Meadows, who was among the group of House Republicans who voted against re-electing Boehner in January, filed a "motion to vacate the chair," which would strip Boehner of his leadership post, if successful.

But a majority of the House would need to back the motion. Because Meadows didn't file it as a "privileged" resolution, it does not automatically get a vote but is referred to the Rules committee, a panel stacked with Boehner allies.

Rules Committee Chairman Pete Sessions learned about the resolution from reporters, and said he is still getting the details on it.

Leadership aides on both sides of the aisle were stunned by Meadows' move.
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A certain CS'er just became a HUGE Trump fan.
Donald Trump says he'd tap :bananahump: :bananahump: Sarah Palin for a Cabinet post

Donald Trump has succeeded in alienating many of his fellow Republicans with his personal attacks, but if he does win in November 2016 and is forced to assemble a cabinet of GOP allies, he knows exactly whom he would call on: Sarah Palin.

When asked on Sarah Palin’s Mama Grizz Radio’s “The Palin Update” Monday whether he would seek the former Alaska governor’s advice as president or potentially appoint her to an executive-branch position, Trump said, “I’d love that.”

“She’s really somebody who knows what’s happening. She’s a special person. She’s really a special person. And I think people know that and she’s got a following that’s unbelievable,” he continued. (Palin has more than 4 million Facebook followers.)

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I'm still trying to figure out Trump's angle. I truly don't think he really wants to be president, but he's incendiary equivalent of driving a truck full of explosives into the GOP candidates and see what shakes out in the end. Maybe he's there to make the other guys expose their views on sensitive subjects and he's the vetter-in-chief for the Republicans.

Either way, I see Trump flaming out within the next 3-4 months. He's going to step hard enough on his dick soon and it won't be recoverable.
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Call me Apathetic, but I have kinda tuned it all out. Hillary on the dem side (if elected my sleep disorders will disappear) and the chaos on the rep side is more than my sensibilities can take.
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OL FU wrote:Call me Apathetic, but I have kinda tuned it all out. Hillary on the dem side (if elected my sleep disorders will disappear) and the chaos on the rep side is more than my sensibilities can take.
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Chizzang wrote:
OL FU wrote:Call me Apathetic, but I have kinda tuned it all out. Hillary on the dem side (if elected my sleep disorders will disappear) and the chaos on the rep side is more than my sensibilities can take.
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:nod:
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OL FU wrote:Call me Apathetic, but I have kinda tuned it all out. Hillary on the dem side (if elected my sleep disorders will disappear) and the chaos on the rep side is more than my sensibilities can take.
Unless you live in Iowa or New Hampshire, tune out until February 10 (day after NH). The leading couple of candidates will have emerged from those 2 states and then you can pay attention more
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ASUG8 wrote:I'm still trying to figure out Trump's angle. I truly don't think he really wants to be president, but he's incendiary equivalent of driving a truck full of explosives into the GOP candidates and see what shakes out in the end. Maybe he's there to make the other guys expose their views on sensitive subjects and he's the vetter-in-chief for the Republicans.

Either way, I see Trump flaming out within the next 3-4 months. He's going to step hard enough on his dick soon and it won't be recoverable.
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He does the same thing every time he "runs". As soon as the heat gets turned up he quits. Today's conks are even more stupid than their predecessors so Trump's schtik is lasting longer than usual.
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houndawg wrote:
ASUG8 wrote:I'm still trying to figure out Trump's angle. I truly don't think he really wants to be president, but he's incendiary equivalent of driving a truck full of explosives into the GOP candidates and see what shakes out in the end. Maybe he's there to make the other guys expose their views on sensitive subjects and he's the vetter-in-chief for the Republicans.

Either way, I see Trump flaming out within the next 3-4 months. He's going to step hard enough on his dick soon and it won't be recoverable.
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He does the same thing every time he "runs". As soon as the heat gets turned up he quits. Today's conks are even more stupid than their predecessors so Trump's schtik is lasting longer than usual.
To be more precise: Attention for his next reality show after he drops this "campaign". :lol:
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