NY Times: WMD's WERE Found In Iraq, Reports Classified

[travelinman67]

Cardinal Stabilizer of Charleston SC and Alcolac of Baltimore provided Saddam with hundreds of tons of thiodiglycol. This is necessary to make mustard gas.

Um, yeah...

...they were mentioned in the Van Anraat report I previously linked.

If you had read the report, you would find that both companies had sold to non-Iraq businesses which WERE NOT ON THE COMMERCE DEPARTMENT'S EXCLUSIONS LIST, and those foreign companies in turn unlawfully repurposed the chemicals, selling to other companies who then sold the chemicals to Iraq in the early '80's.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014 ... 12/a181681

The American Style Culture bio samples sold to Iraq, referenced in the Riegle report, were never found to have been weaponized. (I.e., Congressman D'Amato was just slinging mud hoping something might stick).

Jelly, Ibby, wanna keep going???

Look, I understand you are so blinded by Bush-hate you cannot admit that ReaganBushBush weren't responsible for all things bad in our world...

...but you're barking up the wrong tree.

Anyway, keep trying if you must.

[BlueHen86]

Cardinal Stabilizer of Charleston SC and Alcolac of Baltimore provided Saddam with hundreds of tons of thiodiglycol. This is necessary to make mustard gas.

Um, yeah...

...they were mentioned in the Van Anraat report I previously linked.

If you had read the report, you would find that both companies had sold to non-Iraq businesses which WERE NOT ON THE COMMERCE DEPARTMENT'S EXCLUSIONS LIST, and those foreign companies in turn unlawfully repurposed the chemicals, selling to other companies who then sold the chemicals to Iraq in the early '80's.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014 ... 12/a181681

The American Style Culture bio samples sold to Iraq, referenced in the Riegle report, were never found to have been weaponized. (I.e., Congressman D'Amato was just slinging mud hoping something might stick).

Jelly, Ibby, wanna keep going???

Look, I understand you are so blinded by Bush-hate you cannot admit that ReaganBushBush weren't responsible for all things bad in our world...

...but you're barking up the wrong tree.

Anyway, keep trying if you must.

I think Bush I handled Iraq perfectly. He knew that Saddam had WMD's but he also knew that ousting Saddam could make things worse. No fly zones and sanctions were enough to keep Saddam in check. Nothing changed in the time between the two Gulf wars; except of course 9-11 which Iraq had nothing to do with. IMHO there was no reason to invade Iraq in 2003. Huge mistake by Bush II, but lots of donks have to own it too. Lots of bipartisan fail to go around.

[Ibanez]

Cardinal Stabilizer of Charleston SC and Alcolac of Baltimore provided Saddam with hundreds of tons of thiodiglycol. This is necessary to make mustard gas.

Um, yeah...

...they were mentioned in the Van Anraat report I previously linked.

If you had read the report, you would find that both companies had sold to non-Iraq businesses which WERE NOT ON THE COMMERCE DEPARTMENT'S EXCLUSIONS LIST, and those foreign companies in turn unlawfully repurposed the chemicals, selling to other companies who then sold the chemicals to Iraq in the early '80's.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014 ... 12/a181681

The American Style Culture bio samples sold to Iraq, referenced in the Riegle report, were never found to have been weaponized. (I.e., Congressman D'Amato was just slinging mud hoping something might stick).

Jelly, Ibby, wanna keep going???

Look, I understand you are so blinded by Bush-hate you cannot admit that ReaganBushBush weren't responsible for all things bad in our world...

...but you're barking up the wrong tree.

Anyway, keep trying if you must.

I don't have time to read dozens of articles. A company sells the material for mustard gas to an Iraqi company and we think nothing of it?

[BlueHen86]

Um, yeah...

...they were mentioned in the Van Anraat report I previously linked.

If you had read the report, you would find that both companies had sold to non-Iraq businesses which WERE NOT ON THE COMMERCE DEPARTMENT'S EXCLUSIONS LIST, and those foreign companies in turn unlawfully repurposed the chemicals, selling to other companies who then sold the chemicals to Iraq in the early '80's.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014 ... 12/a181681

The American Style Culture bio samples sold to Iraq, referenced in the Riegle report, were never found to have been weaponized. (I.e., Congressman D'Amato was just slinging mud hoping something might stick).

Jelly, Ibby, wanna keep going???

Look, I understand you are so blinded by Bush-hate you cannot admit that ReaganBushBush weren't responsible for all things bad in our world...

...but you're barking up the wrong tree.

Anyway, keep trying if you must.

I don't have time to read dozens of articles. A company sells the material for mustard gas to an Iraqi company and we think nothing of it?

That would require critical thought, something that T'man and his ass dwelling parrots aren't capable of.

[travelinman67]

Um, yeah...

...they were mentioned in the Van Anraat report I previously linked.

If you had read the report, you would find that both companies had sold to non-Iraq businesses which WERE NOT ON THE COMMERCE DEPARTMENT'S EXCLUSIONS LIST, and those foreign companies in turn unlawfully repurposed the chemicals, selling to other companies who then sold the chemicals to Iraq in the early '80's.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014 ... 12/a181681

The American Style Culture bio samples sold to Iraq, referenced in the Riegle report, were never found to have been weaponized. (I.e., Congressman D'Amato was just slinging mud hoping something might stick).

Jelly, Ibby, wanna keep going???

Look, I understand you are so blinded by Bush-hate you cannot admit that ReaganBushBush weren't responsible for all things bad in our world...

...but you're barking up the wrong tree.

Anyway, keep trying if you must.

I don't have time to read dozens of articles. A company sells the material for mustard gas to an Iraqi company and we think nothing of it?

No American company sold CW precursors to Iraq or Iraqi companies.

THAT'S what the articles say.

But I understand it's more important for you to espouse a hateful, anti-American opinion, even if it's based upon your refusal to research what you're blathering about.

Since you're incapable of providing sources to support your assertion, here's where a reasoned person would say, "I'm unable to find sources to support what I originally said, so I retract my statement that the U.S. collaborated with Iraq to develop Chemical Weapons."

It's that simple.

[BlueHen86]

I don't have time to read dozens of articles. A company sells the material for mustard gas to an Iraqi company and we think nothing of it?

No American company sold CW precursors to Iraq or Iraqi companies.

THAT'S what the articles say.

But I understand it's more important for you to espouse a hateful, anti-American opinion, even if it's based upon your refusal to research what you're blathering about.

Since you're incapable of providing sources to support your assertion, here's where a reasoned person would say, "I'm unable to find sources to support what I originally said, so I retract my statement that the U.S. collaborated with Iraq to develop Chemical Weapons."

It's that simple.

And why does any of that matter? What happened after the first Gulf War to justify the second Gulf War? Is 20 year old mustard gas more potent than 10 year old mustard gas? I didn't realize that Iraqi WMD's were like good Scotch. We should have been searching for oak barrels instead of aluminum tubes.

[travelinman67]

Um, yeah...

...they were mentioned in the Van Anraat report I previously linked.

If you had read the report, you would find that both companies had sold to non-Iraq businesses which WERE NOT ON THE COMMERCE DEPARTMENT'S EXCLUSIONS LIST, and those foreign companies in turn unlawfully repurposed the chemicals, selling to other companies who then sold the chemicals to Iraq in the early '80's.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014 ... 12/a181681

The American Style Culture bio samples sold to Iraq, referenced in the Riegle report, were never found to have been weaponized. (I.e., Congressman D'Amato was just slinging mud hoping something might stick).

Jelly, Ibby, wanna keep going???

Look, I understand you are so blinded by Bush-hate you cannot admit that ReaganBushBush weren't responsible for all things bad in our world...

...but you're barking up the wrong tree.

Anyway, keep trying if you must.

I don't have time to read dozens of articles. A company sells the material for mustard gas to an Iraqi company and we think nothing of it?

No American company sold CW precursors to Iraq or Iraqi companies.

THAT'S what the articles say.

But I understand it's more important for you to espouse a hateful, anti-American opinion, even if it's based upon your refusal to research what you're blathering about.

Since you're incapable of providing sources to support your assertion, here's where a reasoned person would say, "I'm unable to find sources to support what I originally said, so I retract my statement that the U.S. collaborated with Iraq to develop Chemical Weapons."

It's that simple.

[BlueHen86]

I don't have time to read dozens of articles. A company sells the material for mustard gas to an Iraqi company and we think nothing of it?

No American company sold CW precursors to Iraq or Iraqi companies.

THAT'S what the articles say.

But I understand it's more important for you to espouse a hateful, anti-American opinion, even if it's based upon your refusal to research what you're blathering about.

Since you're incapable of providing sources to support your assertion, here's where a reasoned person would say, "I'm unable to find sources to support what I originally said, so I retract my statement that the U.S. collaborated with Iraq to develop Chemical Weapons."

It's that simple.

And why does any of that matter? What happened after the first Gulf War to justify the second Gulf War? Is 20 year old mustard gas more potent than 10 year old mustard gas? I didn't realize that Iraqi WMD's were like good Scotch. We should have been searching for oak barrels instead of aluminum tubes.

[travelinman67]

NoBrains86...Troll...

[youtube]http://youtube/watch?v=qMBvQ3QVJp0[/youtube]

[BlueHen86]

NoBrains86...Troll...

[youtube]http://youtube/watch?v=qMBvQ3QVJp0[/youtube]

Yeah, I'm trolling for answers. Apparently you don't have answers, just baseless accusations...

...and spanos-like videos.

[travelinman67]

NoBrains86...Troll...

[youtube]http://youtube/watch?v=qMBvQ3QVJp0[/youtube]

Yeah, I'm trolling for answers. Apparently you don't have answers, just baseless accusations...

...and spanos-like videos.

Fuck off, Troll.

[BlueHen86]

Yeah, I'm trolling for answers. Apparently you don't have answers, just baseless accusations...

...and spanos-like videos.

Fuck off, Troll.

The more I post, the more you regress.

You are the Benjamin Button of CS.com.

[Ibanez]

I don't have time to read dozens of articles. A company sells the material for mustard gas to an Iraqi company and we think nothing of it?

No American company sold CW precursors to Iraq or Iraqi companies.

THAT'S what the articles say.

But I understand it's more important for you to espouse a hateful, anti-American opinion, even if it's based upon your refusal to research what you're blathering about.

Since you're incapable of providing sources to support your assertion, here's where a reasoned person would say, "I'm unable to find sources to support what I originally said, so I retract my statement that the U.S. collaborated with Iraq to develop Chemical Weapons."

It's that simple.

We have proof that TGD was sold by American companies. Why can't you accept that? It's that simple. You do the research, tough guy. I'm not going to hold your hand.

[Ibanez]

I guess Tman has no issue with Iraq buying a schedule 2 chemical agent.

[Ibanez]

I'm usually not conspiratorial but it seems logical. And don't call me "un-American" because if question my country. If anything, that makes me more American.

[kalm]

I'm usually not conspiratorial but it seems logical. And don't call me "un-American" because if question my country. If anything, that makes me more American.

Tman hates America more than anyone on this board.

[kalm]

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[CAA Flagship]

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This

[Chizzang]

No American company sold CW precursors to Iraq or Iraqi companies.

THAT'S what the articles say.

But I understand it's more important for you to espouse a hateful, anti-American opinion, even if it's based upon your refusal to research what you're blathering about.

Since you're incapable of providing sources to support your assertion, here's where a reasoned person would say, "I'm unable to find sources to support what I originally said, so I retract my statement that the U.S. collaborated with Iraq to develop Chemical Weapons."

It's that simple.

We have proof that TGD was sold by American companies. Why can't you accept that? It's that simple. You do the research, tough guy. I'm not going to hold your hand.

T-Man suffers from "The Backfire-effect"
Its a form of psychological regression associated with aging hardened beliefs
Even when presented the most logical plain truth "The Backfire-Effect" kicks in with individuals who are suffering from this neurosis

http://www.brainpickings.org/2014/05/13 ... ign=buffer" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[kalm]

We have proof that TGD was sold by American companies. Why can't you accept that? It's that simple. You do the research, tough guy. I'm not going to hold your hand.

T-Man suffers from "The Backfire-effect"
Its a form of psychological regression associated with aging hardened beliefs
Even when presented the most logical plain truth "The Backfire-Effect" kicks in with individuals who are suffering from this neurosis

http://www.brainpickings.org/2014/05/13 ... ign=buffer" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I thought the backfire effect was when you snarted?

[CAA Flagship]

T-Man suffers from "The Backfire-effect"
Its a form of psychological regression associated with aging hardened beliefs
Even when presented the most logical plain truth "The Backfire-Effect" kicks in with individuals who are suffering from this neurosis

http://www.brainpickings.org/2014/05/13 ... ign=buffer" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I thought the backfire effect was when you snarted?

[travelinman67]

No American company sold CW precursors to Iraq or Iraqi companies.

THAT'S what the articles say.

But I understand it's more important for you to espouse a hateful, anti-American opinion, even if it's based upon your refusal to research what you're blathering about.

Since you're incapable of providing sources to support your assertion, here's where a reasoned person would say, "I'm unable to find sources to support what I originally said, so I retract my statement that the U.S. collaborated with Iraq to develop Chemical Weapons."

It's that simple.

We have proof that TGD was sold by American companies. Why can't you accept that? It's that simple. You do the research, tough guy. I'm not going to hold your hand.

You've been asked repeatedly to produce a source supporting your assertion; you have refused.

I have supplied you with links to the Van Anraat investigation that tracked the sale of precursors from U.S. companies to LEGAL foreign, Non-Iraq companies, through proper Commerce Dept. application. Those end users resold the precursors to other LEGAL companies who then repurposed the chemicals snd sold them to Iraq. The Riegle report did not uncover precursor sale culpability by an American company. The ONLY violation they uncovered was the sale to a Brooklyn company which was a storefront for Van Anraat, who in turn resold the product to an Italian firm.

The links to both the Van Anraat investigation and The Riegle report have previously been posted: You stated you do not have time to read them.

In the wake of your irrational position, are the usual libtard trolls echoing your ignorance.

And you question why I hold no respect for the liberal-inclined?

[Ibanez]

We have proof that TGD was sold by American companies. Why can't you accept that? It's that simple. You do the research, tough guy. I'm not going to hold your hand.

You've been asked repeatedly to produce a source supporting your assertion; you have refused.

I have supplied you with links to the Van Anraat investigation that tracked the sale of precursors from U.S. companies to LEGAL foreign, Non-Iraq companies, through proper Commerce Dept. application. Those end users resold the precursors to other LEGAL companies who then repurposed the chemicals snd sold them to Iraq. The Riegle report did not uncover precursor sale culpability by an American company. The ONLY violation they uncovered was the sale to a Brooklyn company which was a storefront for Van Anraat, who in turn resold the product to an Italian firm.

The links to both the Van Anraat investigation and The Riegle report have previously been posted: You stated you do not have time to read them.

In the wake of your irrational position, are the usual libtard trolls echoing your ignorance.

And you question why I hold no respect for the liberal-inclined?

I've told you to go figure it out yourself. I'm not your bitch. I'm not reading them on my phone while waiting to go see a pediatrician.

[Ibanez]

Btw, I'm totally on board with you but God damn you are an easy target. You are the most trolled poster. I could probably get you to argue what shade of blue the sky is.
I haven't and won't read whatever articles you have linked. I read a report that shows how that Dutch guy bought the TGD under false pretenses. But hey, you're such a good troll.

[travelinman67]

Btw, I'm totally on board with you but God damn you are an easy target. You are the most trolled poster. I could probably get you to argue what shade of blue the sky is.

You know, I was thinking about this last night when BlueHen went full troll. Years back, trolling was an occasional form of entertainment interspersed in the debate. In the past 2-3 years, we have 6-7 members who have become full time stalker/trolls. They rarely debate and add nothing to this website content. It's become boring/tedious. Sad to say, but I now see value to moderators banning trolls.