Conks and Reproductive Rights, II

[89Hen]

Where is the exact line?

Read my post and focus.

I did. I'm not talking about when the mother's life is in jeopardy. Contrary to what your liberal friends tell you, pro-life people are not interested in not allowing abortions when the mother's life is in jeopardy.

[D1B]

Read my post and focus.

I did. I'm not talking about when the mother's life is in jeopardy. Contrary to what your liberal friends tell you, pro-life people are not interested in not allowing abortions when the mother's life is in jeopardy.

Not true.

[89Hen]

I did. I'm not talking about when the mother's life is in jeopardy. Contrary to what your liberal friends tell you, pro-life people are not interested in not allowing abortions when the mother's life is in jeopardy.

Not true.

About the same percetage as women interested in late term abortions.

[D1B]

Not true.

About the same percetage as women interested in late term abortions.

Bullshit.

What about rape? Your church will send to hell a rape victim who gets pregnant and then has an abortion.

When does the soul enter a fetus?

[Grizalltheway]

About the same percetage as women interested in late term abortions.

Bullshit.

What about rape? Your church will send to hell a rape victim who gets pregnant and then has an abortion.

When does the soul enter a fetus?

When Jesus comes in the night and christens it. Makes for an awkward moment when he catches the couple doing anal.

[D1B]

Hen, when does the soul enter a fetus?

[D1B]

Hen, when does the soul enter a fetus?

[89Hen]

About the same percetage as women interested in late term abortions.

Bullshit.

What about rape? Your church will send to hell a rape victim who gets pregnant and then has an abortion.

When does the soul enter a fetus?

Rape? Seriously? You're moving on to rape? Put up the white flag already. When pro-choice folks start talking rape, incest and mother's life you know they're out of rope. Let's talk about 98% of abortions before we get to the 2%.

Soul? Not sure what that has to do with anything. My position on abortion has zero to do with religion. Funny that you are the one trying to drag it into the discussion. But since you asked... I have no idea, do you? That's why I want to know how pro-choice folks can say one day is OK and then next not.

[Grizalltheway]

Bullshit.

What about rape? Your church will send to hell a rape victim who gets pregnant and then has an abortion.

When does the soul enter a fetus?

Rape? Seriously? You're moving on to rape? Put up the white flag already. When pro-choice folks start talking rape, incest and mother's life you know they're out of rope. Let's talk about 98% of abortions before we get to the 2%.

Soul? Not sure what that has to do with anything. My position on abortion has zero to do with religion. Funny that you are the one trying to drag it into the discussion. But since you asked... I have no idea, do you? That's why I want to know how pro-choice folks can say one day is OK and then next not.

Blasphemy! Is Father O'Diddler aware of this??

[Ibanez]

So, have you ladies figured it out yet?

[Cap'n Cat]

Kinda interested in this whole "soul entering a fetus" thang.

Hen, got some insights there, m' friend?

[89Hen]

Kinda interested in this whole "soul entering a fetus" thang.

Hen, got some insights there, m' friend?

Answered above.

[Cap'n Cat]

Kinda interested in this whole "soul entering a fetus" thang.

Hen, got some insights there, m' friend?

Answered above.

Oh the "nothing to do with religion" thing, huh?

[89Hen]

Answered above.

Oh the "nothing to do with religion" thing, huh?

No the "I have no idea, do you?" thing.

[Cap'n Cat]

Oh the "nothing to do with religion" thing, huh?

No the "I have no idea, do you?" thing.

Yeah, but your monsignor at St. Casimir's down the street does, correct? What does he say? I mean, hell, you're lettin' da Henettes listen to his learned counsel, eh?

Seems you would prescribe to any notions he has on it, expert that he is, of course, on reproductive shit....

[89Hen]

No the "I have no idea, do you?" thing.

Yeah, but your monsignor at St. Casimir's down the street does, correct? What does he say? I mean, hell, you're lettin' da Henettes listen to his learned counsel, eh?

Seems you would prescribe to any notions he has on it, expert that he is, of course, on reproductive shit....

Nope. Not correct and you know that. Fish somewhere else.

[Cap'n Cat]

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Women Who Have Abortions

Unintended Pregnancy

Each year, almost half of all pregnancies among American women are unintended.1 About half of these unplanned pregnancies, 1.3 million each year, are ended by abortion.1,2

There are many myths and misconceptions about who gets abortions, and why. The fact is that the women who have abortions come from all racial, ethnic, socioeconomic, and religious backgrounds. If current rates continue, it is estimated that 35% of all women of reproductive age in America today will have had an abortion by the time they reach the age of 45.3

Measuring the Incidence of Abortion

The incidence of abortion can be tracked in two different ways. The first is simply to keep a tally of the total number of abortions obtained by women who fall into specified categories. Numbers tracked in this way are usually expressed as a percentage of all abortions provided in a year. Alternatively, the rate of abortion can be measured by calculating the total number of abortions obtained per 1,000 women who make up the total population in each category.

Age

Women between the ages of 15 and 19 account for about 19% of all abortions; women 20 to 24 account for another 33%; and about 25% of abortions are obtained by women who are 30 or older.4 Calculating abortion rates, older teenagers and young adults have the highest abortion rates, while women younger than 15 and older than 35 have the lowest.4

Length of Pregnancy

Most abortions (88%) are obtained in the first trimester of pregnancy. In fact, over half of all abortions are obtained within the first 8 weeks. Fewer than 2% occur at 21 weeks or later.5

Education, Residence, and Income

Of the women obtaining abortions in 2000:
•57% had some college education;
•88% were from metropolitan areas; and
•57% percent were low-income.4

Marital Status

Most women getting abortions (83%) are unmarried; 67% have never married, and 16% are separated, divorced, or widowed.4 Married women are significantly less likely than unmarried women to resolve unintended pregnancies through abortion.6

Religion

Women who obtain abortions represent every religious affiliation. 13% of abortion patients describe themselves as born-again or Evangelical Christians; while 22% of U.S. women are Catholic, 27% of abortion patients say they are Catholics.


MYTH: Women are using abortion as a method of birth control.

In fact, half of all women getting abortions report that contraception was used during the month they became pregnant.1 Some of these couples had used the method improperly; some had forgotten or neglected to use it on the particular occasion they conceived; and some had used a contraceptive that failed. No contraceptive method prevents pregnancy 100% of the time.

If abortion were used as a primary method of birth control, a typical woman would have at least two or three pregnancies per year - 30 or more during her lifetime. In fact, most women who have abortions have had no previous abortions (52%) or only one previous abortion (26%).5 Considering that most women are fertile for over 30 years, and that birth control is not perfect, the likelihood of having one or two unintended pregnancies is very high.

MYTH: Women have abortions for selfish or frivolous reasons.

The decision to have an abortion is rarely simple. Most women base their decision on several factors, the most common being lack of money and/or unreadiness to start or expand their families due to existing responsibilities. Many feel that the most responsible course of action is to wait until their situation is more suited to childrearing; 66% plan to have children when they are older, financially able to provide necessities for them, and/or in a supportive relationship with a partner so their children will have two parents.8 Others wanted to get pregnant but developed serious medical problems, learned that the fetus had severe abnormalities, or experienced some other personal crisis. About 13,000 women each year have abortions because they have become pregnant as a result of rape or incest.1

MYTH: Women are often forced into having abortions they do not really want.

Some women say that pressure from a husband, partner, or parent was one of several reasons they chose abortion, but only about 1% give that reason as the "most important" one in making their decision.9 Conversely, some women who do not want to continue their pregnancies are pressured to do so by family members, friends, or fear of social stigma. Pre-abortion options counseling is designed to determine whether a woman is fully comfortable with her abortion decision, and if she is not, she is encouraged to wait until she has had a chance to consider her options more fully.

MYTH: Many women come to regret their abortions later.

Research indicates that relief is the most common emotional response following abortion, and that psychological distress appears to be greatest before, rather than after, an abortion.

There are undoubtedly some women who, in hindsight, wish that they had made different choices, and the majority would prefer never to have become pregnant when the circumstances were not right for them. When a wanted pregnancy is ended (for medical reasons, for example) women may experience a sense of loss and grief. As with any major change or decision involving loss, a crisis later in life sometimes leads to a temporary resurfacing of sad feelings surrounding the abortion. Women at risk for poor post-abortion adjustment are those who do not get the support they need, or whose abortion decisions are actively opposed by people who are important to them.

[89Hen]

The following is data compiled by an organization, prochoice.org

You could have just stopped there.

[CID1990]

It is SO easy to defend the high ground against abortionists. No matter whether you are opposed to abortion for religious reasons or not (I am one of the "nots").

[Cap'n Cat]

The following is data compiled by an organization, prochoice.org

You could have just stopped there.

All facts, LeRoy! No bearded ghost guy behind these people proddin' 'em to stretch things a little.

[D1B]

Bullshit.

What about rape? Your church will send to hell a rape victim who gets pregnant and then has an abortion.

When does the soul enter a fetus?

Rape? Seriously? You're moving on to rape? Put up the white flag already. When pro-choice folks start talking rape, incest and mother's life you know they're out of rope. Let's talk about 98% of abortions before we get to the 2%.

Soul? Not sure what that has to do with anything. My position on abortion has zero to do with religion. Funny that you are the one trying to drag it into the discussion. But since you asked... I have no idea, do you? That's why I want to know how pro-choice folks can say one day is OK and then next not.

Hen - another Catholic who don't know shit about his religion.

God don't seem to give a shit. He indiscriminately kills about half of all fetuses.

[D1B]

The following is data compiled by an organization, prochoice.org

You could have just stopped there.

A woman's health issue. You have no say. Deal with it.

[89Hen]

So much fail for just two brothers.