America 2, Obama 0

[89Hen]

Speaking of grey matter:

Viewing too much porn might be connected to lesser gray matter in brain - study
http://rt.com/news/162856-porn-less-grey-matter/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Makes me wonder how you even have the intellect to turn on the computer anymore.

[Cap'n Cat]

Speaking of grey matter:

Viewing too much porn might be connected to lesser gray matter in brain - study
http://rt.com/news/162856-porn-less-grey-matter/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Makes me wonder how you even have the intellect to turn on the computer anymore.

Man, quite the opposite has hap'nd with The Cap'n, Hen. I'm a goddammed ninja at work.

[Ivytalk]

Two excellent decisions.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Poorly conceived and poorly constructed laws are easy to punch holes in. Obama had the chance early in his tenure to get this right and he wasn't able to rein in the supermajority and do it correctly, and we'll be suffering the consequences of that missed opportunity for long after Obama is out of office.

He was too busy trying to fix all the problems he inherited.

Hes not smart enough to fix a paper cut.

Oh and every president inherits problems........the next one will inherit triple the national debt your boy ran up while his family vacationed on the tax payer dime.

[GannonFan]

Two excellent decisions.

I find the business/technical decisions more interesting some times - I thought the Broadcasting Companies v. Aereo to be even better theater.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

But in a blistering dissent, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, joined by Justice Sotomayor, lambasted the majority opinion—delivered by five male justices—as "a decision of startling breadth" that would allow corporations to "opt out of any law … they judge incompatible with their sincerely held religious beliefs."

The majority view "demands accommodation of a for-profit corporation's religious beliefs no matter the impact that accommodation may have on third parties who do not share the corporation owners' religious faith—in these cases, thousands of women employed by Hobby Lobby and Conestoga or dependents of persons those corporations employ" wrote Ginsburg, a stalwart member of the Court's liberal wing.


She continued: "Persuaded that Congress enacted the (Religious Freedom Restoration Act) to serve a far less radical purpose, and mindful of the havoc the Court's judgment can introduce, I dissent."

Those ugly idiots need to leave their vaginas out of their thought process.

Bias much?

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

As much as I don't like the ruling (and I don't)
I have to kinda agree with this ^ Birth Control is a personal choice (Ain't no free)

So, it should only be available to those who can afford it.

Yeah! We need more children being born to those who can't afford birth control... let alone an actual fucking child.

Exactly, if you cant afford a kid dont have sex.

If that logic knocks you the fu*k out...........good.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Scrotumeyor, Kagle & Gettysburg.

Man that's a tough one. I'll have to go: F, M, K

KKK

[CitadelGrad]

so the sketchy territory is in the company itself?

sort of the difference between a Mom and Pop store (where Mom and Pop would be opposed to paying for abortifascients) and WalMart, which is so large it can be thought of as less reflective of the personal beliefs of Sam Walton?

More like this...
"My Religion says I can't honor your religious beliefs, even if your religion says that you must use birth control, and my religion says.... etc. etc."

I belong to a religion also - and its credo is ______________ so I can't do ____________ (fill in the blank)

Not good

mmmmmNot exactly. There is an issue here of how the HHS did not use the least restrictive means to serve its compelling interest (assuming for the sake of argument that it even has a compelling interest). How did SCOTUS determine that the least restrictive means were not used, you ask. Well, Hobby Lobby could incur fines of hundreds of millions a year for not meeting the mandate. That would, of course, do great financial damage to the company and its employees.

[dbackjon]

Indeed - a very sad day for LIBERTY, EQUALITY and everything America stands for.


Alito/Scalia/Thomas need to be impeached. They are the worst trio of justices in the history of the SCOTUS.

So, it's a sad day in America because someone isn't being forced to pay for someone else's birth control?

jon, you have a serious deficiency on what liberty and equality actually are.

I understand it quite well. Obviously much better than 99% of Republicans

[dbackjon]

Indeed - a very sad day for LIBERTY, EQUALITY and everything America stands for.


Alito/Scalia/Thomas need to be impeached. They are the worst trio of justices in the history of the SCOTUS.

What's hilarious is that THIS is viewed as a sad day by you, but you can brush off Benghazi, IRS, Fast & Furious, NSA illegal surveillance, AP scandal, Solyndra, GSA, the outing of a CIA station chief, the abhorent encouragement of illegal aliens to cross into America then dumping them in cities across the country and the unconstitutional use of Executive Orders as just "business as usual".

And you brush off the 11 Embassy Attacks under Bush, the 22 million emails deleted by Bush, The outing of Valerie Plame, the NSA surveillance started under Bush, etc.


and of course the fact that Obama has issued fewer Executive Orders than any two-term President in the last 100 years.


But you are a sheeple for the Fox spin, fall right in line with their LIES, and parrot them because you aren't capable of independent thought

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

I cant wait for the next revolution




It really cant get here fast enough.

[dbackjon]

I cant wait for the next revolution




It really cant get here fast enough.

Of the Sun?

[Chizzang]

More like this...
"My Religion says I can't honor your religious beliefs, even if your religion says that you must use birth control, and my religion says.... etc. etc."

I belong to a religion also - and its credo is ______________ so I can't do ____________ (fill in the blank)

Not good

mmmmmNot exactly. There is an issue here of how the HHS did not use the least restrictive means to serve its compelling interest (assuming for the sake of argument that it even has a compelling interest). How did SCOTUS determine that the least restrictive means were not used, you ask. Well, Hobby Lobby could incur fines of hundreds of millions a year for not meeting the mandate. That would, of course, do great financial damage to the company and its employees.

Ah-Ha... I see



wait, what...?

[BDKJMU]

What's hilarious is that THIS is viewed as a sad day by you, but you can brush off Benghazi, IRS, Fast & Furious, NSA illegal surveillance, AP scandal, Solyndra, GSA, the outing of a CIA station chief, the abhorent encouragement of illegal aliens to cross into America then dumping them in cities across the country and the unconstitutional use of Executive Orders as just "business as usual".

And you brush off the 11 Embassy Attacks under Bush, the 22 million emails deleted by Bush, The outing of Valerie Plame, the NSA surveillance started under Bush, etc.


and of course the fact that Obama has issued fewer Executive Orders than any two-term President in the last 100 years.


But you are a sheeple for the Fox spin, fall right in line with their LIES, and parrot them because you aren't capable of independent thought

Where people, including ambassadors were killed? Let's hear more about this.

[dbackjon]

And you brush off the 11 Embassy Attacks under Bush, the 22 million emails deleted by Bush, The outing of Valerie Plame, the NSA surveillance started under Bush, etc.


and of course the fact that Obama has issued fewer Executive Orders than any two-term President in the last 100 years.


But you are a sheeple for the Fox spin, fall right in line with their LIES, and parrot them because you aren't capable of independent thought

Where people, including ambassadors were killed? Let's hear more about this.

67 people died Google is your friend.

[CID1990]

What's hilarious is that THIS is viewed as a sad day by you, but you can brush off Benghazi, IRS, Fast & Furious, NSA illegal surveillance, AP scandal, Solyndra, GSA, the outing of a CIA station chief, the abhorent encouragement of illegal aliens to cross into America then dumping them in cities across the country and the unconstitutional use of Executive Orders as just "business as usual".

And you brush off the 11 Embassy Attacks under Bush, the 22 million emails deleted by Bush, The outing of Valerie Plame, the NSA surveillance started under Bush, etc.


and of course the fact that Obama has issued fewer Executive Orders than any two-term President in the last 100 years.


But you are a sheeple for the Fox spin, fall right in line with their LIES, and parrot them because you aren't capable of independent thought

Says the walking talking point from Slate



BTW I don't recall Bush playing election year politics (Al Qaeda is on the run! Libya is just peachy!) with any of the foreign mission attacks that occurred under his watch.

I also don't think he ever lied about terror attacks, trying to convince (quite easily, apparently) people like you that it was about some yahoo with a video, rather than terrorism in a failed state of his own creation.

[travelinman67]

Left's apoplectic response to Hobby Lobby decision...

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/06/30/t ... -decision/

[kalm]

Employers shouldn't be responsible for their workers health coverage. If they chose to they should be free to decide what gets covered.

But I do find the corporate personhood angle discussed by cgrad and Chizzy the most interesting part about this.

[Grizalltheway]

I cant wait for the next revolution




It really cant get here fast enough.

Get it started tough guy.

[Chizzang]

Employers shouldn't be responsible for their workers health coverage. If they chose to they should be free to decide what gets covered.

But I do find the corporate personhood angle discussed by cgrad and Chizzy the most interesting part about this.

Of all the people in the world... Corporations are my favorite



Frankly there is NO ADVANTAGE being a person anymore
You're far better off incorporating in any way you can - and going corporate bankruptcy a few times too
At least three times like the Donald Trump

Personal bankruptcy is not a good idea really (too much accountability)
All the advantages go with corporate bankruptcy all the rich kids are doing it

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

I have been thinking about doing a corporate bankruptcy for a few years now.

Trouble is, I run my businesses well, pay cash for everything and have savings. I guess I dont know what I am doing. You guys should bail me out.

[SuperHornet]

This says it all:


"What we saw today was five male justices essentially rule that discrimination against women is not discrimination at all," Ilyse Hogue, President of NARAL Pro-Choice America, countered. "They said it's OK for bosses to make personal decisions about health care which we pay for with our labor."



Sad day for America, but we all have to respect the decision.

No I think what they said was that it is ok to make your own decision, your boss just doesn't have to pay for it. But let's not let the truth stand in the way of a good argument

Exactly.

But in the extreme hurry to spin this, the Left is ignoring precisely WHAT Hobby Lobby was refusing to fund. They refused to fund RU-486, an "after-the-fact" birth control drug, which they found to be drug-induced murder. They also refused to fund IUDs, which prevent a fertilized ovum from implanting; since a fertilized ovum that fails to implant dies, they found THIS to be murder also. Other forms of contraception (condoms, the "pill", etc.) are fully funded in Hobby Lobby's scheme because prevented fertilization is NOT murder because a life has not been created.

The only way to refute that is to re-define the point at which life occurs.

[Chizzang]

Exactly.

But in the extreme hurry to spin this, the Left is ignoring precisely WHAT Hobby Lobby was refusing to fund. They refused to fund RU-486, an "after-the-fact" birth control drug, which they found to be drug-induced murder. They also refused to fund IUDs, which prevent a fertilized ovum from implanting; since a fertilized ovum that fails to implant dies, they found THIS to be murder also. Other forms of contraception (condoms, the "pill", etc.) are fully funded in Hobby Lobby's scheme because prevented fertilization is NOT murder because a life has not been created.

The only way to refute that is to re-define the point at which life occurs.

Its been a LONG time since you've posted something worth reading...
And yet - here we are - well done SuperHornet

[kalm]

Employers shouldn't be responsible for their workers health coverage. If they chose to they should be free to decide what gets covered.

But I do find the corporate personhood angle discussed by cgrad and Chizzy the most interesting part about this.

Of all the people in the world... Corporations are my favorite



Frankly there is NO ADVANTAGE being a person anymore
You're far better off incorporating in any way you can - and going corporate bankruptcy a few times too
At least three times like the Donald Trump

Personal bankruptcy is not a good idea really (too much accountability)
All the advantages go with corporate bankruptcy all the rich kids are doing it

Is the mature a corporation?